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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 00:43:29
September 13 2014 00:42 GMT
#129441
On September 13 2014 08:05 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:18 teddyoojo wrote:
On September 13 2014 04:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
html/css have way more practical applications outside of actually being employed as a programmer

whats more fun to learn
im currently learning java does that change anything
which ones more useful if i someday wanna work something related to informatics



If you are already learning Java, just learn what OOP is, and do go the C# route. Broaden your knowledge with some Html/Css.

C# and Java are used for the same things. If you need to learn C# for a job that you want, you will be able to learn it quickly if you already know some other OOP language like Java.


SQL probably has the highest usefulness/effort ratio to learn for anybody whose not a programer
That and python for scripting I guess
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 13 2014 00:50 GMT
#129442
Twitch made bbc news due to malware spammers lol
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 13 2014 02:04 GMT
#129443
universe needs to stop his intake of disney songs
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:19:33
September 13 2014 02:18 GMT
#129444
On September 13 2014 09:50 Dubzex wrote:
Twitch made bbc news due to malware spammers lol


So what you're saying is twitch made the news because people are morons/
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 02:20 GMT
#129445
Gonna drag LeLoup's conversation from another thread into here because it probably shouldn't be happening in the IHL thread.

On September 13 2014 08:59 LeLoup wrote:
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On September 13 2014 08:49 Alur wrote:
On September 13 2014 08:30 Plansix wrote:
I am also in support of the CRMS moving to have the games be All Random and people can just play their hearts out. Its seems like most thought out plan and addresses a lot of the issues(like picks, people getting grumpy about drafts) and puts all that shit in the hands of the RNG.

And I understand why folks are disappointed that the TLIH isn't as competitive focused as it used to be. I don't think any of the more casual/less skilled players wanted to mess that up for people. Some folks just want to play some community games that are a bit lower impact. And if people wanted to have a set of competitive matches with a minimum MMR next weekend, I don't think anyone here would be upset or fell left out.

While I can't speak for the others, I don't think it's the experienced players who are more interested in serious type games. We already have alternatives in the form of open tournaments, IHL's and matchmaking, and I doubt that we have enough players to arrange something like TLIHPro™.

No you're pretty much correct. The people that 'want' the more serious CM games are people like me who are still trying to really understand this game at a higher level as compared to what we know now.

I do wish that Valve would add weekend tournaments or something though. Would be pretty fun to just group up randomly and play in them occasionally.

That would be fuckin' kickass. Play DOTA2 for hats, practice teamwork and shit with your friends.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 13 2014 02:22 GMT
#129446
I would be all about them and they would be fun. The only issue I can see is that people might game the whatever system is made(and they will figure out a way, they always do), but thats the nature of the beast.

But until then there is 5 stacking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 02:26 GMT
#129447
How can you game it if the winners get items? If you spam bots, then there will still be tons of other people getting free games.

Only problem with that style of tourney is that it would take fucking forever if there's any sizable number of players.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 13 2014 02:32 GMT
#129448
It would have to be some sort of point based system or something that didn't use brackets. I think that's the main problem with tournament based systems is that any reasonable set of games takes so long in Dota if you include the draft. Its not like street fighter 4, where the matches are so short you can play a full set in like 7-10 minutes.

Still some system where people could compete in more serious matches would be good. Or maybe just an API to let players do it themselves and have some sort of interface within the client.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 02:34 GMT
#129449
But then that's just turning it into TMM with more hats.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:41:14
September 13 2014 02:40 GMT
#129450
True, but you need to overcome the main issue of competitive dota: time. The games take forever, drafting takes like 15 minutes and the matches are not over quick. A best of three could be like 3-3.5 hours. Maybe if they were bo1 it could work out or if they ran the thing over several weeks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:44:31
September 13 2014 02:43 GMT
#129451
Not everyone can play every day or even every week. Really, the best thing available is some kind of league, which is actually already in the game.

Maybe some update to bring more light on TMM would be helpful.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 02:54 GMT
#129452
Man, I just realized how absurd Poison Nova's manacost is. It literally takes up 3/4 of Veno's mana pool at level 11.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7056 Posts
September 13 2014 03:15 GMT
#129453
Guys remember when everyone complained about mirana/lycan every game instead of void/tinker
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 03:24:09
September 13 2014 03:17 GMT
#129454
the end is near

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user was not warned for making this post
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 03:20 GMT
#129455
I really should be able to report rabidch for something like that.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 13 2014 03:21 GMT
#129456
hes just a chinchilla
High Risk Low Reward
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7056 Posts
September 13 2014 03:25 GMT
#129457
On September 13 2014 12:17 rabidch wrote:

user was not warned for making this post


kupo plz
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 13 2014 03:43 GMT
#129458
On September 13 2014 12:15 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Guys remember when everyone complained about mirana/lycan every game instead of void/tinker


what about those of us who still think lycan is bullshit
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 03:50:44
September 13 2014 03:49 GMT
#129459
On September 13 2014 12:25 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 12:17 rabidch wrote:

user was not warned for making this post


kupo plz


u just went 322

High Risk Low Reward
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2014 04:03 GMT
#129460
On September 13 2014 12:43 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 12:15 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Guys remember when everyone complained about mirana/lycan every game instead of void/tinker


what about those of us who still think lycan is bullshit

You've been declared not-actually-people by the UN. Can you PM me your address so I can take you as a legally mandated slave?

But seriously, Lycan is an order of magnitude stronger in organized play than in pubs. He's very strong in pubs, but it's perfectly reasonable to see him not picked. The exact opposite is true of Void and Tinker.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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