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idonthinksobro
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Slomo
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Kipsate
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Kipsate
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goody153
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Slomo
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On September 08 2014 00:44 Kipsate wrote: There is a guy who send some money to various twitch people's paypal and they are using that money to sub to Waga, moreover there is probably also people who are on the sub train like a snowball effect. This + he had a big increase in viewers since his 24h Techies stream a few days ago. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
I mean people say and most seem to believe that subs are 'consistent income'. But for example Dansgaming was saying he lost 400 subs after not streaming during Pax (like 4 days). And most people just sub for one month, basically just a 2.50 donation. Even if you look at waga's top donations list. The top 5 donators account for like 8k, considering he just hit 1k subs and has for the most part been around or under 500, those 5 people account for several months of all subscription income. And that's not counting the enormous mass of $1-10 donations. Which is worrying to me, because I find all streams turning into myfreecams constantly talking about people giving you money isn't what I'm there to watch. Obviously good that they are earning money, but some people need to learn to actually be providing quality content at the same time. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:35 idonthinksobro wrote: the one thing i want the most from 6.82 is a huge nerf to lycan. The hero has been ruining pubs and pro games alike for a very long time. I want lycan to be shit tier, worse than spirit breaker. People should forget that the hero lycan even exists, when someone randoms him the gut reaction should be worse than when you random io or chen or something. I would be happy if they just nerfed the wolves so they had to activate invis and it had a cool down. They provide so much scouting right now. Really the summoned shit in Dota 2 is super strong. But all the more reason to all LC to the pool and nuke that shit to the ground. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:54 teapoted wrote: I have to imagine donations are a bigger source of income than subscriptions to most channels that do them regardless. I mean people say and most seem to believe that subs are 'consistent income'. But for example Dansgaming was saying he lost 400 subs after not streaming during Pax (like 4 days). And most people just sub for one month, basically just a 2.50 donation. Even if you look at waga's top donations list. The top 5 donators account for like 8k, considering he just hit 1k subs and has for the most part been around or under 500, those 5 people account for several months of all subscription income. And that's not counting the enormous mass of $1-10 donations. Which is worrying to me, because I find all streams turning into myfreecams constantly talking about people giving you money isn't what I'm there to watch. Obviously good that they are earning money, but some people need to learn to actually be providing quality content at the same time. I don't see them as any different than street performers, except that they have to periodically tell their viewers how to send in that money. And as I said in the other thread, it is super nice that Dota fans support the non-pro streamer along with the pros. It healthy for everyone who appreciates the game for both fun and high level play. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
But i kind of like waga's stream in general, he plays a lot of games and often explains shit too. | ||
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teapoted
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 08 2014 01:06 teapoted wrote: Street performers don't stop playing or dancing or whatever when people give them money. Yeah, but they give you the eye contact and the smile. One guy gave me a thumbs up. Don't get me wrong, I don't like people who ask for money every 10 minutes, but after every couple of games is fine. Balance is key. Also the way Draskyl does it where he thanks them while playing so it fucks up his play is pretty amusing too. People try to spam him with subs right before a team fight just to fuck with him. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Which is what a street performer does by giving you eye contact and not stopping to play. And that is not what a streamer does when they read idiotic messages for the entire cast. Some people do this well. Some people don't. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Targe
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cecek
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Yurie
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On September 08 2014 01:33 cecek wrote: I hate it wen people say it, but... just don't watch the streams that go overboard with the whole donation spiel? There's plenty of content in DotA that you don't even have to go anywhere near first person streamers. And if you want to watch fp streams, there are plenty of high-skill streamers with commentary that don't do that. Normal waga stream is like 10 donations and 2 subs a game. So works when he thanks them. Today is just... | ||
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