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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:20:40
December 24 2011 02:11 GMT
#1181
dota2 is really fun. but the community, especially at default mm is so terrible. nonstop raging and qq + little kids goin afk/not helping team after 1 or 2 deaths. geezus. last 3 games involved a leaver or 2+ kiddies raging into not helping team. pretty depressing.

maybe it's cause im pretty low mmr atm in dota 2 and in LoL my mmr is relatively higher, but it seems like dota2 community is worse than LoL community atm...
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
December 24 2011 02:28 GMT
#1182
I'm pubstomping like there's no tomorrow.
People is diying.
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
December 24 2011 03:58 GMT
#1183
The Dota 2 Community (much like the dota community) is REALLY BM. I am not sure why or how this happened... but this is just how it's been. It's so different from the SC2 community which, in general, is very good mannered!
Galatians 2:20
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
December 24 2011 04:36 GMT
#1184
On December 24 2011 12:58 asaed wrote:
The Dota 2 Community (much like the dota community) is REALLY BM. I am not sure why or how this happened... but this is just how it's been. It's so different from the SC2 community which, in general, is very good mannered!


Its a team game, simple as that. SC2 you can only blame yourself or the balance team, the people that get mad about using unbalanced stuff are there too, but in Dota, there are games where you can lose cause of new team mates or laggy team mates, or rage quit team mates etc.

Got to go into it with the right mindset, and most don't have it.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
December 24 2011 04:37 GMT
#1185
It's in the game. Imagine if starcraft games took about three times as long, and you had to rely on complete randoms, who could be anywhere from bronze to gm, in the same game, all to work together. Then remove any self awareness of skill levels, because this game doesn't lend itself to rankings anyway, and they haven't been around that long, and are you surprised that people are bad mannered? I beat myself up like hell when I suck in sc. Now imagine you playing perfectly, and someone else fucking it up for you.

If a cat widdled on my router as I was playing sc, I'd be pissed at the cat.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 04:53:38
December 24 2011 04:53 GMT
#1186
It's just the beta. I wouldn't put much importance on anything you're experiencing now. When it's released there will be leaver detection, tutorials, report system, coaching, etc - aka a much better community for the people who don't leave and are mannered.

Right now's the best time to test everything out, all the items, champs, etc...that's what the beta's for. Anything else is an added bonus.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 24 2011 04:56 GMT
#1187
The other thing is player roles. Carries blame supports for feeding, supports blame gankers for not doing enough to keep the other team off-balance, and the gankers blame the carries for being too passive. There's a built-in blame transference mechanism with the divisions of role. (Note: this goes completely out the window in the standard four-carry-plus-semi lineups you see in pubs, where you're desperate for someone to babysit the FV and more disables, and the last two people pick Sniper and Tiny.)
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 24 2011 05:40 GMT
#1188
Thats why I almost always only play with friends that play different roles from mine, and try to group up in 3-5 pairings so that we can complete the random's picks, or just work together. The worst is when you have say, Windrunner, AM, Lich as you and yoru two friends picks, and you ask the next two guys to try to get a support/ganker with stuns/disables and a mid hero that can hold their own, and then they pick like, a faceless void and drow ranger and then youw ant to pull your hair out
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Triarier
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria155 Posts
December 24 2011 06:07 GMT
#1189
Don't know of this is common knowledge. Get 2 friends, pick Ursa, Skeleton King and Witch doc. Skill fury swipes, vampiric aura and heal. Buy a basillus on Ursa ( going to build Vlad) and 2 clarities on doc. Go and kill Roshan at level one, before the first creeps spawn. Go on your lane and get level 3 after one creep and kill the pubs. For the lulz :-D
Merry Christmas
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 24 2011 06:11 GMT
#1190
^Now that you say that, I kind of want to try it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Triarier
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 07:14:09
December 24 2011 07:07 GMT
#1191
Another nice benefit is the first cheese drops at around 21-23 minutes, depending on how fast can Ursa farm his Vlad and kill Roshan solo twice.

Edit: Btw, I don't know if this works, but you could search recent games in Dota 2, search for my nickname: "Triarier" and watch my latest Replay. It was a pure rape :-D
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
December 24 2011 08:36 GMT
#1192
I finally figured out my internet/computer issues I was having for whole week here at my parent's house and got a few actual games in, felt great... i feel bad for those of you still not in beta yet, my 1 week of issues was enough to make me want to scream.

The level 1 roshan thing is so silly in pubs, I think it would be quite amusing if someone randomly walks by looking for rune and wrecks you though.

Probably won't be on much this next week, but happy holidays everyone hope to get in on all these in houses as soon as I'm back home on internet that can handle all the servers instead of being confined to U.S. East.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
December 24 2011 20:10 GMT
#1193
Gahhh!!! Finally got a key last night and just played my first game! so happy! Now i just need to learn to not be awful
Jieun <3
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
December 24 2011 20:19 GMT
#1194
I remember the days when you couldn't even get into a pub unless you answered some stupid quiz and were ok on everyone's custom blacklist/ip/leaver check. Starting a game would take as long as playing, then you'd get random server issues and split drops and have to do it all over again. That's where the elitism stems from; It's a lot better now, but still one of the worse communities (in general) of gaming.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 20:46:44
December 24 2011 20:46 GMT
#1195
I think you shouldn't be allowed to lose when you go 20/4/11 in a game where your whole team only gets 34 kills. I know KDA isn't everything, and doesn't win you games.

But it is extremely frustrating when the entire enemy team just gangs up on you and the four other people on your team do nothing. No peeling, no initiating, no heals, not even any farming. How you finish a 30 minute long game with less than 30 last hits I have no idea...

Is the matchmaking just really bad or something? I feel like 80% of the people I am playing with have never played a MOBA game before in their life. Don't last hit/deny, don't use their skills, don't communicate... Its even frustrating when everything goes well for you.

I got a triple kill under my tower one game (at level three...) because my opponents just didn't know what they were doing. Everyone is so easy to bait around it is silly. Hopefully there is just a small player base, but being a ringer constantly starts to wear on you. I wanna play competitive games.
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
December 24 2011 22:16 GMT
#1196
The matchmaking has been better since the holidays--I think it's all based on number of users online. If you have to search for several minutes, then it tends to be not so good.
Galatians 2:20
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 25 2011 00:08 GMT
#1197
On December 25 2011 05:19 Playguuu wrote:
I remember the days when you couldn't even get into a pub unless you answered some stupid quiz and were ok on everyone's custom blacklist/ip/leaver check. Starting a game would take as long as playing, then you'd get random server issues and split drops and have to do it all over again. That's where the elitism stems from; It's a lot better now, but still one of the worse communities (in general) of gaming.

man, that even happened in Brood War and im guilty of doing so :l but I did put "No noobs" in the game name so I think i was justified :s
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 25 2011 00:40 GMT
#1198
On December 25 2011 07:16 asaed wrote:
The matchmaking has been better since the holidays--I think it's all based on number of users online. If you have to search for several minutes, then it tends to be not so good.


I guess that makes sense. So are half the people I'm playing with not from my same rating or something>?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 25 2011 01:34 GMT
#1199
I wasnt even aware there was rating yet. Do we all have hidden mmrs?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 02:17:42
December 25 2011 02:13 GMT
#1200
On December 25 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 05:19 Playguuu wrote:
I remember the days when you couldn't even get into a pub unless you answered some stupid quiz and were ok on everyone's custom blacklist/ip/leaver check. Starting a game would take as long as playing, then you'd get random server issues and split drops and have to do it all over again. That's where the elitism stems from; It's a lot better now, but still one of the worse communities (in general) of gaming.

man, that even happened in Brood War and im guilty of doing so :l but I did put "No noobs" in the game name so I think i was justified :s


''No noobs''

''experts only''

It never worked here

;;


On December 25 2011 10:34 FinestHour wrote:
I wasnt even aware there was rating yet. Do we all have hidden mmrs?


Yeah, once you hit a high enough MMR you in general(i'd say maybe 70% of the time?) have competent people on your team and the opponents.
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