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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 03 2012 18:59 GMT
#6541
On April 04 2012 03:05 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 02:39 imweakless wrote:
http://sylvirspydir.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-mymdota-left-hyhy-breaks-silence.html
interview about why hyhy left mym

The current Team Zenith DotA2 line up consists of :
"hyhy" Han Yong Benedict Lim
"iceiceice" Daryl Koh
"xfreedom" Nicholas Lim
"xy" Toh Wai Hong
"ChuaN" Wong Hock Chuan

Are chuaN and Tofuboi Chu and Tofu from some years ago ?
What I liked more in Dota 1 was when Chu updated his replay thread on playdota. All his replays were amazing <3

ChuaN is ChuaN. He is famous in his own right like Yamateh and Mushi (MY players). Tofu is the singapore tofu.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 19:39:32
April 03 2012 19:39 GMT
#6542
On April 04 2012 03:26 eluv wrote:
Tobi reveals that out of ~500 games played, 191 are Furion. Good god I have no idea how you could play that many games on the same hero.

i have like 150 games of windrunner with 450 played

just gotta love fast girls
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 03 2012 20:17 GMT
#6543
On April 04 2012 04:39 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 03:26 eluv wrote:
Tobi reveals that out of ~500 games played, 191 are Furion. Good god I have no idea how you could play that many games on the same hero.

i have like 150 games of windrunner with 450 played

just gotta love fast girls


Singsing was playing with someone named Banstatus the other day who had 80% Lion games in like 40 pages or something.
Never make a hydralisk.
xOGenesis
Profile Joined September 2011
47 Posts
April 03 2012 20:51 GMT
#6544
I've never tried DOTA since it was before my time :O but I have played LoL. Whats the difference between the two? And what do you think is better?
Tryhat
Profile Joined March 2012
160 Posts
April 03 2012 21:02 GMT
#6545
I hope you guys didn't miss the pub games with Toby, Pajkatt and Puppey! Obv they got teamed up with a russian who didn't know it was them (all had weird nicks) and he tried to captain the team and called Puppey a retard :D

On April 04 2012 05:51 InfExodus wrote:
I've never tried DOTA since it was before my time :O but I have played LoL. Whats the difference between the two? And what do you think is better?


You're asking dota players what they like more, the game they love or the game they hate?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#6546
On April 04 2012 06:02 Tryhat wrote:
I hope you guys didn't miss the pub games with Toby, Pajkatt and Puppey! Obv they got teamed up with a russian who didn't know it was them (all had weird nicks) and he tried to captain the team and called Puppey a retard :D

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 05:51 InfExodus wrote:
I've never tried DOTA since it was before my time :O but I have played LoL. Whats the difference between the two? And what do you think is better?


You're asking dota players what they like more, the game they love or the game they hate?


lol, I hope there is a vod!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
April 03 2012 21:25 GMT
#6547
On April 04 2012 05:51 InfExodus wrote:
I've never tried DOTA since it was before my time :O but I have played LoL. Whats the difference between the two? And what do you think is better?


In Dota certian key factors create a deeper strategic environment.

You cannot teleport to your base for free.

Not every hero can "blink" into or out of combat.

Mana pools are significantly smaller.

Spellcasters are generally more powerful at the beginning of the game and less powerful at the end of the game.

You have the ability to kill your own "minions" (creeps), and doing so takes some experience away from your opponents. You can also kill your own "turrets" (towers) so that your opponents get less gold.

Only one player can play one "champion" (hero). So both teams can't have an Anti-Mage.

These are some of the biggest differences off the top of my head. If you like LoL, play LoL - the vast majority of Dota players will say that Dota is better, for obvious reasons (its the game they play).
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
April 03 2012 21:30 GMT
#6548
On April 04 2012 05:51 InfExodus wrote:
I've never tried DOTA since it was before my time :O but I have played LoL. Whats the difference between the two? And what do you think is better?


The main differences IMO are:

Ability to deny creeps and pull neutrals to draw the lane back to your tower.

Map is very different, has long & short / easy & hard lanes. There is no brush like in lol, the height changes and line of sight while in the jungle are very different to the way lol works. Also towers are much weaker.

Disables, and abilities in general are more powerful in dota. Eg look at ravage, black hole, fissure. Nothing like that exists in lol.

Laning phase has much more variation, with trilanes especially something you never see in lol.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 21:43:12
April 03 2012 21:41 GMT
#6549
So I finally got the beta, and I can't say I'm digging the game. I played a lot of the original DotA when it was popular, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while, so I don't remember how to play properly (a lot of LoL can do that), but my issue here really is the game is almost impressively ugly. It feels choppy, the interface looks very cheaply done, the hero models don't stand out. I just can't do this, and I'm kind of sad to say so.

I miss denying creeps =[
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
April 03 2012 21:47 GMT
#6550
On April 04 2012 06:41 holdthephone wrote:
So I finally got the beta, and I can't say I'm digging the game. I played a lot of the original DotA when it was popular, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while, so I don't remember how to play properly (a lot of LoL can do that), but my issue here really is the game is almost impressively ugly. It feels choppy, the interface looks very cheaply done, the hero models don't stand out. I just can't do this, and I'm kind of sad to say so.

I miss denying creeps =[

What are you talking about? The UI is amazing, art style is perfectly fine and you can deny creeps too.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
April 03 2012 21:49 GMT
#6551
lol i know you can deny, im just saying i'm going to miss it because i can't take the game seriously.

when does it officially release, by the way?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 22:04:27
April 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#6552
No release date is set. Valve time and all that.
Personally, I didn't find the switch from LoL very difficult, I think DOTA2 feels much less "choppy" then LoL. But whatever floats your boat man
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 03 2012 22:04 GMT
#6553
On April 04 2012 06:41 holdthephone wrote:
So I finally got the beta, and I can't say I'm digging the game. I played a lot of the original DotA when it was popular, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while, so I don't remember how to play properly (a lot of LoL can do that), but my issue here really is the game is almost impressively ugly. It feels choppy, the interface looks very cheaply done, the hero models don't stand out. I just can't do this, and I'm kind of sad to say so.

I miss denying creeps =[



you play (and i assume enjoy) lol and call dota 2 ugly? O_O

LoL is like a little kids cartoon game full of awful looking sprites shooting everywhich way and the champion renders in game.. oh my...

I get LoL can be fun, I get people like it, but the game looks like shit.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
April 03 2012 22:18 GMT
#6554
On April 04 2012 07:04 PassiveAce wrote:
No release date is set. Valve time and all that.
Personally, I didn't find the switch from LoL very difficult, I think DOTA2 feels much less "choppy" then LoL. But whatever floats your boat man

I think they'll probably release it when all the heroes are ported over. There's no reason to release it significantly before or after that point.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 22:26:10
April 03 2012 22:18 GMT
#6555
On April 04 2012 07:04 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 06:41 holdthephone wrote:
So I finally got the beta, and I can't say I'm digging the game. I played a lot of the original DotA when it was popular, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while, so I don't remember how to play properly (a lot of LoL can do that), but my issue here really is the game is almost impressively ugly. It feels choppy, the interface looks very cheaply done, the hero models don't stand out. I just can't do this, and I'm kind of sad to say so.

I miss denying creeps =[



you play (and i assume enjoy) lol and call dota 2 ugly? O_O

LoL is like a little kids cartoon game full of awful looking sprites shooting everywhich way and the champion renders in game.. oh my...

I get LoL can be fun, I get people like it, but the game looks like shit.


I am surprised by DotA 2. Like the glow effects on heroes, how Sb makes other units glimmer. Even the subtle snake and frog on the map.

The item Ui does take some getting use to. I occasionally forget where certain items are. But the Ui itself is very nice. I will admit to hating generalizations like, interface looks very cheaply done and that the hero models do not stand out. That is so vague, I need specifics lol.

Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
April 03 2012 22:22 GMT
#6556
Hah, my apologies for bringing this up then. I suppose community fervor is fairly the same across all MOBA games, I should of expected it.

I'll continue to give the game a shot, I suppose.
mrk1
Profile Joined January 2011
91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 22:33:19
April 03 2012 22:23 GMT
#6557
On April 04 2012 06:49 holdthephone wrote:
lol i know you can deny, im just saying i'm going to miss it because i can't take the game seriously.

when does it officially release, by the way?

This is funny because 99% of DotA fans think the same about a certain other game*. No offence intended.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 03 2012 22:27 GMT
#6558
Just wanted to make sure of the rules. Since I obviously forgot them and I guess it needs reminding. Rule number two:

Do not discuss LoL or HoN in this thread. Also, please refrain from using the vague term MOBA.


Although I have no authority here, I do suggest changing the topic of potential warnings may engulf this thread.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 03 2012 22:38 GMT
#6559
On April 04 2012 07:04 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 06:41 holdthephone wrote:
So I finally got the beta, and I can't say I'm digging the game. I played a lot of the original DotA when it was popular, enjoyed it quite a bit. It's been a while, so I don't remember how to play properly (a lot of LoL can do that), but my issue here really is the game is almost impressively ugly. It feels choppy, the interface looks very cheaply done, the hero models don't stand out. I just can't do this, and I'm kind of sad to say so.

I miss denying creeps =[



you play (and i assume enjoy) lol and call dota 2 ugly? O_O

LoL is like a little kids cartoon game full of awful looking sprites shooting everywhich way and the champion renders in game.. oh my...

I get LoL can be fun, I get people like it, but the game looks like shit.

I don't get people saying the game is ugly, but I do understand the models make it difficult to recognize heroes. Dark seer shield on riki and dark seer is OP. It takes a lot longer to get used to than LoL.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 03 2012 22:49 GMT
#6560
On April 04 2012 03:05 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 02:39 imweakless wrote:
http://sylvirspydir.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-mymdota-left-hyhy-breaks-silence.html
interview about why hyhy left mym

The current Team Zenith DotA2 line up consists of :
"hyhy" Han Yong Benedict Lim
"iceiceice" Daryl Koh
"xfreedom" Nicholas Lim
"xy" Toh Wai Hong
"ChuaN" Wong Hock Chuan

Are chuaN and Tofuboi Chu and Tofu from some years ago ?
What I liked more in Dota 1 was when Chu updated his replay thread on playdota. All his replays were amazing <3


Chuan isn't Chu, Chu went to HoN where he was recognized as one of the best players, then went to LoL, then came back to HoN, did well again, and then Dota2 came out and he went back to LoL and he is on TSM now.
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