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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Grimjaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 03:42:52
August 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#41
On August 16 2011 12:40 Earll wrote:
I have noticed that the 2 different sides have different heroes on 'their side' (scourge\sentinel?) But in any serious game mode both sides have access to all heroes right?


Yes, there will be most likely different modes of play. All Pick allows players to pick any hero regardless of faction.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#42
On August 16 2011 12:40 Earll wrote:
I have noticed that the 2 different sides have different heroes on 'their side' (scourge\sentinel?) But in any serious game mode both sides have access to all heroes right?

Correct. A long time ago, people played "normal" mode, where players from each side could only play heroes from their side. They eventually started to add bans to their competition, and after Asia started the trend, both teams would pick from the entire pool. A few iterations later, and we have the current -CM (Captains mode) that is the standard for every competitive game.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
August 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#43
On August 16 2011 12:40 Earll wrote:
I have noticed that the 2 different sides have different heroes on 'their side' (scourge\sentinel?) But in any serious game mode both sides have access to all heroes right?

There's a mode that locks the two factions together but most games are "allpick" which lets you pick from either side regardless of the one you're on
Also, only one hero per game, so two sides can't have the same heroes
Grimjaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
178 Posts
August 16 2011 03:56 GMT
#44
Curious, in competitive play, what modes are used? I've only seen a handful of high level games. Can anyone recommend good games to learn from?
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 16 2011 04:01 GMT
#45
On August 16 2011 12:56 Grimjaw wrote:
Curious, in competitive play, what modes are used? I've only seen a handful of high level games. Can anyone recommend good games to learn from?

You should check out joindota.com for VODs its run by Tobi Wan a popular caster in the dota community all the recent VOD's are from recent games between top teams and should be good.
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
August 16 2011 04:04 GMT
#46
captains mode is played in competitive play.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/16363-vods-farm4fame-winner-brackets-mym-vs-na-vi-game-2

pretty good game
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
August 16 2011 04:04 GMT
#47
On August 16 2011 12:56 Grimjaw wrote:
Curious, in competitive play, what modes are used? I've only seen a handful of high level games. Can anyone recommend good games to learn from?


From being answered in this thread, I believe something called CM (captain mode) is used, and as far as i know,it is all heroes available, and then 3 bans from each team, 2 hero picks from each team, 2 more bans from each team, and then pick the last 3 heroes. Assuming that is what you meant by "what mode"
Wat
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
August 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#48
On August 16 2011 12:56 Grimjaw wrote:
Curious, in competitive play, what modes are used? I've only seen a handful of high level games. Can anyone recommend good games to learn from?


Almost exclusively -cm mode.

Captain's mode (-cm)

The first player of each team is designated "captain" of the team. These players will excecute picking and banning of heroes, taking turns and having a limited amount of time. Bans and picks are divided into seperate phases:

Summary: 3 bans then 3 picks then 2 bans then 2 picks. Total 5 bans + 5 picks per team.

Ban Phase #1: Each team bans 3 heroes. 30 seconds for each step
Process: 1-1-1-1-1-1

Pick Phase #1: Each team then picks 3 heroes. 50 seconds for each step.
Process: 1-2-2-1

Ban Phase #2: Each team then bans 2 heroes. 50 seconds for each step
Process: 1-1-1-1

Pick Phase #2: Each team then picks 2 heroes. 50 seconds for each step
Process: 1-1-1-1

90 seconds of extra time is provided in each team's time bank.


Regarding learning, it really depends on what you intend to learn. It can range from general understanding of competitive Dota, the current competitive metagame up to the proper use of very specific strategies or heroes.

A somewhat broad approach would be simply to check out http://www.dotacommentaries.com/


SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
August 16 2011 05:00 GMT
#49
Love the layout on the first page!
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
August 16 2011 05:00 GMT
#50
Hoopefully HoN is better practice than LoL and dota. looking to pwn scrubs right off the bat!!
Professional BattleCraft Player
5100
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia437 Posts
August 16 2011 05:05 GMT
#51
Q: Any idea what time the dota2 stream will start from gamescon? I know the event goes on for the whole day but when will dota2 be on stream?
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 16 2011 05:11 GMT
#52
On August 16 2011 14:05 5100 wrote:
Q: Any idea what time the dota2 stream will start from gamescon? I know the event goes on for the whole day but when will dota2 be on stream?

From the trailer post on dota2's blog
"We will provide the schedule and detailed information about the tournament tomorrow."
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 16 2011 05:12 GMT
#53
Less than 48 hours till DotA 2!!

Also, the download of the WC3 file doesn't work for me for some reason off the main dota website =/
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
August 16 2011 06:03 GMT
#54
On August 16 2011 14:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Less than 48 hours till DotA 2!!

Also, the download of the WC3 file doesn't work for me for some reason off the main dota website =/


Less than 48 hours!?!

Also at the above post, I can't find a single decent game that isn't 100% one sided in Hon so it may not be the best practice.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 16 2011 06:30 GMT
#55
There should really be some sort of "Introduction to Dota from LoL" thread or "Introduction to competitive dota" writeup
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
August 16 2011 06:33 GMT
#56
Never got into dota, have played hon for awhile. Hope dota 2 is my new home ~
Do it beautifully
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 16 2011 06:47 GMT
#57
Congrats on your new forum guys
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Ophi13
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada238 Posts
August 16 2011 06:48 GMT
#58
Dota 2 )) gogogo! been playing dota for 4 years now, can't be more happy.
I love Lindsey Sporrer :)
LLuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria228 Posts
August 16 2011 06:56 GMT
#59
I remember playing the early days of dota in RoC, playing ever since - now it is finally time Dota is stand-alone and can release the cage that is the warcraft 3 engine. I am SO FUCKING HAPPY about this, can't wait!
Tripping off the beat kinda, dripping off the meatgrinder
tmtx
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
August 16 2011 07:32 GMT
#60
noob question: Why is there only one map? It would seem that other maps with the same mechanics would make a lot of sense. I mean not necessarily as many as SC2, but something like 5. Are all the items and heroes so fine tuned, that introducing more lanes or decreasing their count would hurt the game? If that is the case, even with only three lanes there still could be a lot of map variations.
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