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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 18:01:16
February 17 2012 17:59 GMT
#2521
On February 18 2012 02:49 Kipsate wrote:
How do you guys build OD, treads, drums , forcestaff and that new item rods of atmos look cool but they make him fairly squishy, do you guys get some additional survivability before you go scyte?

Conventional way to build OD is Treads, Mekansm, Force Staff, before working on Sheepstick and other lategame items. Janggo is fine if someone else on your team is getting Mek, but Mek is ideal because OD lacks a good source of HP regen while having great mana regen, so Mek is well suited to him. It also buffers your survivability comfortably. Situational items to consider are Ghost Scepter (great when dealing with other autoattack carries, as you can still manual-cast Arcane Orb while Ghost Sceptered), Blink Dagger, Shiva's, BKB, Heart.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 17 2012 18:41 GMT
#2522
Looks like WR items eh?
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 17 2012 18:42 GMT
#2523
On February 18 2012 02:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 02:49 Kipsate wrote:
How do you guys build OD, treads, drums , forcestaff and that new item rods of atmos look cool but they make him fairly squishy, do you guys get some additional survivability before you go scyte?

Conventional way to build OD is Treads, Mekansm, Force Staff, before working on Sheepstick and other lategame items. Janggo is fine if someone else on your team is getting Mek, but Mek is ideal because OD lacks a good source of HP regen while having great mana regen, so Mek is well suited to him. It also buffers your survivability comfortably. Situational items to consider are Ghost Scepter (great when dealing with other autoattack carries, as you can still manual-cast Arcane Orb while Ghost Sceptered), Blink Dagger, Shiva's, BKB, Heart.

what about orchid?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 17 2012 18:50 GMT
#2524
On February 18 2012 03:42 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 02:59 TheYango wrote:
On February 18 2012 02:49 Kipsate wrote:
How do you guys build OD, treads, drums , forcestaff and that new item rods of atmos look cool but they make him fairly squishy, do you guys get some additional survivability before you go scyte?

Conventional way to build OD is Treads, Mekansm, Force Staff, before working on Sheepstick and other lategame items. Janggo is fine if someone else on your team is getting Mek, but Mek is ideal because OD lacks a good source of HP regen while having great mana regen, so Mek is well suited to him. It also buffers your survivability comfortably. Situational items to consider are Ghost Scepter (great when dealing with other autoattack carries, as you can still manual-cast Arcane Orb while Ghost Sceptered), Blink Dagger, Shiva's, BKB, Heart.

what about orchid?


Orchid is a good item for cc but OD's damage comes from an increased mana pool. However it all depends on the situation in game like always.
High Risk Low Reward
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 17 2012 18:59 GMT
#2525
rage for the first time for the last few years playing video games... + Show Spoiler +
HOLY SHIT DUMB FUCK !!!


there should be a system so you cant deny teammates items unless they are gem or rapier... fucking abuse chicken and deny all of my item... worst part is the entire team reported me instead of that faggot.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 17 2012 19:05 GMT
#2526
Holy shit, I love the way OD plays, the way he moves, its just perfect for me

also, for anyone who is interested, the Defense Tournament will be starting, its EG vs DD(Formerly SK)

You can check out the stream over here

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Tobi Wan Kenobi

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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
February 17 2012 19:12 GMT
#2527
Drow seems to shut od down quite well from my pubbing experience at least anyway.

And Omg that bug, hope it gets fixed soon....
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 17 2012 19:25 GMT
#2528
Link's invoker. I just jizzed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
February 17 2012 19:30 GMT
#2529
cant play dota2 atm with the manta abuse, so dota1 it is today
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 17 2012 19:32 GMT
#2530
About OD items:
Shivas also fits him quite well, I personally enjoyed some success with it. Gives him an aoe-attack he lacks, useful against pushes. Orchid is basically one of the very few items that boosts intelligence and autoattack, so surely a good choice.

In case of money-trouble, euls is something to be considered. Or, since OD doesnt need manaregen (once his manapool is a little above 1000, probably before lvl 10), you might also buy midas. Attack-speed = yesyes for OD.
If you have 1000+ mana, be sure to buy the pure mana-regen components (sobi mask, void stone) of items last, since they give you absolutely no additional benefit on their own.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 17 2012 19:38 GMT
#2531
another common bug is that if you play an AP game after SD, ur heroes gona be grayed out like SD and u have to use the menu to select all heroes to fix it.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
February 17 2012 19:39 GMT
#2532
Is it a known bug, that I (or maybe more people) cant observe games anymore?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
February 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#2533
On February 18 2012 02:52 EnvyUK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 22:36 Unleashing wrote:
So, have you guys seen the new bug? <Snip>
Result of the bug:


Why in the world would you post game breaking bugs on a public forum? What do you have to gain from it? It just increases the change of people abusing it in more games. This is not dev.dota2.


You know...so there's more public awareness of it and it gets fixed...?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 17 2012 20:13 GMT
#2534
DOWN WITH THE SHIP AND HE GETS MAELK! HE GETS MAELK!!!!!

DD vs EG is so epic to watch. <3 Tobi
dafnay
Profile Joined May 2010
Angola375 Posts
February 17 2012 20:17 GMT
#2535
hey ive 2 very basic questions : can you see other pple creep score like in LoL? i cant find it on the scoreboard.
Also what is a decent creep score after like 10 minut so i can figure out how i am doing :p
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 17 2012 20:18 GMT
#2536
On February 18 2012 05:17 dafnay wrote:
hey ive 2 very basic questions : can you see other pple creep score like in LoL? i cant find it on the scoreboard.
Also what is a decent creep score after like 10 minut so i can figure out how i am doing :p


You can't and around 40-60.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
February 17 2012 20:19 GMT
#2537
On February 18 2012 05:13 Slardar wrote:
DOWN WITH THE SHIP AND HE GETS MAELK! HE GETS MAELK!!!!!

DD vs EG is so epic to watch. <3 Tobi


Super good, this EG/MYM pushing is sick. Who cares about LinkInvoker.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 20:26:29
February 17 2012 20:26 GMT
#2538
On February 18 2012 04:32 Mafe wrote:
About OD items:
Shivas also fits him quite well, I personally enjoyed some success with it. Gives him an aoe-attack he lacks, useful against pushes. Orchid is basically one of the very few items that boosts intelligence and autoattack, so surely a good choice.

In case of money-trouble, euls is something to be considered. Or, since OD doesnt need manaregen (once his manapool is a little above 1000, probably before lvl 10), you might also buy midas. Attack-speed = yesyes for OD.
If you have 1000+ mana, be sure to buy the pure mana-regen components (sobi mask, void stone) of items last, since they give you absolutely no additional benefit on their own.

Orchid spends a big component on mana regen, and the active is most useful during midgame solo-killing scenarios. For a late-game carry like OD that wants his item actives to have defensive utility in keping him alive (which Mek, Force Staff, and Sheepstick all do), it's not ideal.

I honestly would never really consider Eul's on OD. OD isn't short of "money-trouble" options, between Janggo, Ghost Scepter, and Null Talismans.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
February 17 2012 20:40 GMT
#2539
On February 18 2012 02:49 Kipsate wrote:
How do you guys build OD, treads, drums , forcestaff and that new item rods of atmos look cool but they make him fairly squishy, do you guys get some additional survivability before you go scyte?

Headress Treads Mek Force Staff BKB/Hex or swap the last twoooo
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
February 17 2012 20:56 GMT
#2540
new interface is soo much preatier
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
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