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Going on "Leave" from University to play DotA 2 - Page 32

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terfand
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation119 Posts
November 25 2012 10:41 GMT
#621
Respect for ya balls, man. Unbelievable.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 25 2012 10:45 GMT
#622
Think about all the nerds who will be inspired by this story and quit school/univ for a year to become a progamer. Envy, you have just created a rupture in the time-space continuum.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
November 25 2012 10:47 GMT
#623
I've never followed Dota 2 and didn't knew your story before this DH, but man, I have huge respect for your balls and feel really happy for you. This thread shows that it is worthy to follow his dreams.
Congratz!
It's good to be back
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
November 25 2012 11:04 GMT
#624
You're never "stuck" with Rogers. If you really have enough money to afford better U/L you can afford the cancellation fee of $80 if it means first 3 months free with a new ISP.
twitch.tv/duttroach
TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:30:13
November 25 2012 11:11 GMT
#625
Summary of this thread:

On December 10th 2011, Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao, a university student in an accelerated Engineering Science class at the Univeristy of Toronto asked fellow TL-ers if dropping out of college to indulge himself in professional DotA2 would be a good idea. He cited his successful past experiences in HoN and DotA, and he expressed his distaste for his studies.

Of course, there were the supporter-nice guys who are firm believers of "following one's dream" and "pursuing happiness".

Then there were the reasonable people who advised Jacky to contemplate his decisions and that college would likely be the more sound idea.

And then, of course, there were the naysayers who absolutely ridiculed his decision for choosing to throw away a good education in exchange for a minuscule chance of success.

And on the Internet, it is a truth universally acknowledged, that conflicting raging forces on the internet will inevitably collide, leading to lengthy arguments. Therefore, false facts and "yolo"-erisms were thrown at each other, but what stood out the most was an intense argument between old DotA pro LevenT and former DotA EG player Bulba. The argument for the most part was ugly and informal, with both sides clearly angry and infuriated at each other. It wasn't until DotA EG player Maelk had to intervene and remedy both sides, that the argument finally ended.

Afterward, the thread pretty much died off and remained dormant until a sudden revival in October of 2012. These posts questioned whether EternalEnvy became successful or not. Then, by coincidence, it was revealed that EternalEnvy formed a team called, "No Tidehunter". People became even more ecstatic when No Tidehunter acquired DotA legend Loda and went on to post extraordinary results in the ESWC qualifiers.

The story then began to take a turn towards the fulfillment of a "Dreams Do Come True" movie when No Tidehunter went on to win Dreamhack Winter against EG (which is kinda coincidental since EG Maelk defended Envy's choice).

What's next for EternalEnvy and No Tidehunter? Who knows? But one thing is for sure, they wouldn't be here if a Canadian college drop out was not supported by a community.
"The wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king.||"What do you say to god of gg? NOT TODAY" -John the Translator. "Give me Command" -Yellow.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 25 2012 11:14 GMT
#626
This story is just wonderful !

Congratz for achieving your dream !
LiquipediaWanderer
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 25 2012 11:25 GMT
#627
EternalEnvy I don't even follow DotA2 and only stumbled upon this thread by accident, but after reading about your story I am truly inspired by your success.
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
November 25 2012 11:26 GMT
#628
Yeah, I saw the games last night! Amazing!
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
November 25 2012 11:35 GMT
#629
Didn't watch the games, but I like to think my "GL, HF" counted on page 3.

I'd also like to make this next little bit of advice. You are a pro-gamer. This is not an easy situation, but you clearly knew that, because winning is all that matters, and you aren't the only one who wants to win. Everyone wants to win.

So with that truth out there, the next bit of advice: It isn't just what you earn. It's also what you save. If you're winning 40k a year and saving 30k of it, you come out more ahead after 3 years than someone who wins 600k annually but blows it on anything and everything. Hell, go pro 5 years, have all that money saved leads to a lot of other opportunities in the future too.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
November 25 2012 12:47 GMT
#630
Congrats, nTh is definitely my new favorite team (has been since you announced the new line-up). So glad you won, cant wait to see what you can accomplish in the future!
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
luckycat
Profile Joined September 2012
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 14:08:08
November 25 2012 14:04 GMT
#631
Firstly grats on the win, well deserved and well played.

I look at the pro gaming vs profession thing this way. When you hit your 30s many other things start to take priority. life just happens that way, whether it's cause you notice your eyes can't put up with long hours of gaming anymore or your reflexes aren't the reflexes of a younger player anymore. you are at your peak gaming performance days in your teens to all of your 20's.

So while you still can, do the competitive gaming thing. Cause even if you want to when you are older, it will be difficult.

So I figure you can go back into schooling when you hit your late 20's and finish by 30. Just promise your parents you'll get a degree no matter what and make your goals clear so they don't worry.

For now, answer the call of your competitive spirit and fight fight fight! see just how far you go, who knows , anything is possible, your team showed us by standing at the end of Dreamhack Winter 2012 victorious.



SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
November 25 2012 14:17 GMT
#632
Congratulations on the Dreamhack victory! Beautiful play every game.
So zen.
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
November 25 2012 14:31 GMT
#633
You where my captroll pick in fantasy dota for day 2.

You scored me 27 points.

You lucky son of a bitch.
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
November 25 2012 14:31 GMT
#634
Couldn't watch DH finals, but congrats, crazy story.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
November 25 2012 14:40 GMT
#635
Winner of DREAMHACK!

Holy shit, definitely worth it I would say. Congrats on your success!
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
TrollLisk
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia27 Posts
November 25 2012 15:10 GMT
#636
Keep up the amazing effort OP
Peppo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden71 Posts
November 25 2012 15:52 GMT
#637
Someone make a movie about this.
Samahoj
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden109 Posts
November 25 2012 16:01 GMT
#638
On November 25 2012 20:11 TheRealFluid wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Summary of this thread:

On December 10th 2011, Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao, a university student in an accelerated Engineering Science class at the Univeristy of Toronto asked fellow TL-ers if dropping out of college to indulge himself in professional DotA2 would be a good idea. He cited his successful past experiences in HoN and DotA, and he expressed his distaste for his studies.

Of course, there were the supporter-nice guys who are firm believers of "following one's dream" and "pursuing happiness".

Then there were the reasonable people who advised Jacky to contemplate his decisions and that college would likely be the more sound idea.

And then, of course, there were the naysayers who absolutely ridiculed his decision for choosing to throw away a good education in exchange for a minuscule chance of success.

And on the Internet, it is a truth universally acknowledged, that conflicting raging forces on the internet will inevitably collide, leading to lengthy arguments. Therefore, false facts and "yolo"-erisms were thrown at each other, but what stood out the most was an intense argument between old DotA pro LevenT and former DotA EG player Bulba. The argument for the most part was ugly and informal, with both sides clearly angry and infuriated at each other. It wasn't until DotA EG player Maelk had to intervene and remedy both sides, that the argument finally ended.

Afterward, the thread pretty much died off and remained dormant until a sudden revival in October of 2012. These posts questioned whether EternalEnvy became successful or not. Then, by coincidence, it was revealed that EternalEnvy formed a team called, "No Tidehunter". People became even more ecstatic when No Tidehunter acquired DotA legend Loda and went on to post extraordinary results in the ESWC qualifiers.

The story then began to take a turn towards the fulfillment of a "Dreams Do Come True" movie when No Tidehunter went on to win Dreamhack Winter against EG (which is kinda coincidental since EG Maelk defended Envy's choice).

What's next for EternalEnvy and No Tidehunter? Who knows? But one thing is for sure, they wouldn't be here if a Canadian college drop out was not supported by a community.

not that if really matters that much, but im quite sure that nth qualified for ESWC with black and kizzles, before akke and loda joined.
MORROW, NANIWA, SASE, THORZAIN, SORTOF | NTH, PULSE, LGD.INT
Josri
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands219 Posts
November 25 2012 16:25 GMT
#639
Respect for you man. You did it
Xaga
Profile Joined June 2010
United States163 Posts
November 25 2012 16:44 GMT
#640
WHAT. I remember reading this thread a long time ago, but I never realized this was EternalEnvy. Wow, great job, man! Congrats and keep it up! You guys did amazing
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