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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
November 25 2012 16:55 GMT
#641
gg wp sir.
Push 2 Harder
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
November 25 2012 16:56 GMT
#642
On November 25 2012 20:11 TheRealFluid wrote:
Summary of this thread:

On December 10th 2011, Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao, a university student in an accelerated Engineering Science class at the Univeristy of Toronto asked fellow TL-ers if dropping out of college to indulge himself in professional DotA2 would be a good idea. He cited his successful past experiences in HoN and DotA, and he expressed his distaste for his studies.

Of course, there were the supporter-nice guys who are firm believers of "following one's dream" and "pursuing happiness".

Then there were the reasonable people who advised Jacky to contemplate his decisions and that college would likely be the more sound idea.

And then, of course, there were the naysayers who absolutely ridiculed his decision for choosing to throw away a good education in exchange for a minuscule chance of success.

And on the Internet, it is a truth universally acknowledged, that conflicting raging forces on the internet will inevitably collide, leading to lengthy arguments. Therefore, false facts and "yolo"-erisms were thrown at each other, but what stood out the most was an intense argument between old DotA pro LevenT and former DotA EG player Bulba. The argument for the most part was ugly and informal, with both sides clearly angry and infuriated at each other. It wasn't until DotA EG player Maelk had to intervene and remedy both sides, that the argument finally ended.

Afterward, the thread pretty much died off and remained dormant until a sudden revival in October of 2012. These posts questioned whether EternalEnvy became successful or not. Then, by coincidence, it was revealed that EternalEnvy formed a team called, "No Tidehunter". People became even more ecstatic when No Tidehunter acquired DotA legend Loda and went on to post extraordinary results in the ESWC qualifiers.

The story then began to take a turn towards the fulfillment of a "Dreams Do Come True" movie when No Tidehunter went on to win Dreamhack Winter against EG (which is kinda coincidental since EG Maelk defended Envy's choice).

What's next for EternalEnvy and No Tidehunter? Who knows? But one thing is for sure, they wouldn't be here if a Canadian college drop out was not supported by a community.

Yo dude thanks for this, Ii had seen this thread while it was dormant but didnt understand why it was back because i dont follow dota, just watch occasionslly. I love th youtube vid in the OP though
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
lordofsoup
Profile Joined January 2012
United States159 Posts
November 25 2012 17:08 GMT
#643
Congrats Envy on the dreamhack win. Great to see your pro gamer career is off to a great start.
NOHUNTERS
SyntechiTV
Profile Joined March 2012
67 Posts
November 25 2012 17:22 GMT
#644
Lol i remember seeing this post and everyone flaming this guy, and he goes and wins dreamhack. What a boss:D
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
November 25 2012 17:26 GMT
#645
On November 26 2012 01:56 Bippzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:11 TheRealFluid wrote:
Summary of this thread:

On December 10th 2011, Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao, a university student in an accelerated Engineering Science class at the Univeristy of Toronto asked fellow TL-ers if dropping out of college to indulge himself in professional DotA2 would be a good idea. He cited his successful past experiences in HoN and DotA, and he expressed his distaste for his studies.

Of course, there were the supporter-nice guys who are firm believers of "following one's dream" and "pursuing happiness".

Then there were the reasonable people who advised Jacky to contemplate his decisions and that college would likely be the more sound idea.

And then, of course, there were the naysayers who absolutely ridiculed his decision for choosing to throw away a good education in exchange for a minuscule chance of success.

And on the Internet, it is a truth universally acknowledged, that conflicting raging forces on the internet will inevitably collide, leading to lengthy arguments. Therefore, false facts and "yolo"-erisms were thrown at each other, but what stood out the most was an intense argument between old DotA pro LevenT and former DotA EG player Bulba. The argument for the most part was ugly and informal, with both sides clearly angry and infuriated at each other. It wasn't until DotA EG player Maelk had to intervene and remedy both sides, that the argument finally ended.

Afterward, the thread pretty much died off and remained dormant until a sudden revival in October of 2012. These posts questioned whether EternalEnvy became successful or not. Then, by coincidence, it was revealed that EternalEnvy formed a team called, "No Tidehunter". People became even more ecstatic when No Tidehunter acquired DotA legend Loda and went on to post extraordinary results in the ESWC qualifiers.

The story then began to take a turn towards the fulfillment of a "Dreams Do Come True" movie when No Tidehunter went on to win Dreamhack Winter against EG (which is kinda coincidental since EG Maelk defended Envy's choice).

What's next for EternalEnvy and No Tidehunter? Who knows? But one thing is for sure, they wouldn't be here if a Canadian college drop out was not supported by a community.

Yo dude thanks for this, Ii had seen this thread while it was dormant but didnt understand why it was back because i dont follow dota, just watch occasionslly. I love th youtube vid in the OP though


Just to toot my own horn, i posted in the first instance of the thread, AND necroed it in october as mentioned.
White-Ra fighting!
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
November 25 2012 17:29 GMT
#646
so much respect man
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
November 25 2012 17:31 GMT
#647
Damn, haha! Go Canada!
twitch.tv/duttroach
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
November 25 2012 19:48 GMT
#648
On November 25 2012 17:11 heyoka wrote:
This has become the best thread on TL.

The only way this thread will get even better is if he wins TI3.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 19:54:31
November 25 2012 19:54 GMT
#649
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 20:28:02
November 25 2012 20:03 GMT
#650
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.
+ Show Spoiler +
Zenith won 35k USD, Na´vi took home 250k USD


Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 25 2012 20:15 GMT
#651
Man you're fucking awesome
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 25 2012 20:19 GMT
#652
On November 26 2012 05:03 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.

Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.

I think 5-s meant in the literal sense of results, as in Loda took home more money.
josh-ichigo
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom25 Posts
November 25 2012 20:48 GMT
#653
On October 24 2012 12:34 Ack1027 wrote:
Oh god this thread.

He was stuck in the same old na inhouses grind like everyone else for a while and just recently teamed up for nTh. Wore some other tags but didn't go far with that.

His plan you can see is still laughable. Streaming 10-13 hours a day, coaching, and winning money from tournaments to have money. Or continue at UofT. This was in December 2011 loooooool. Nowhere near the teammates until recently and skill is arguable.

I don't hate the guy or anything just wanted to say the OP post was ridiculous as it is now and its been a year.


OP just won dreamhack with his new team that includes some very good players, just about a year on from this post
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
November 25 2012 20:53 GMT
#654
The amount of flak people get for trying to enjoy themselves is absolutely ridiculous.

Really happy for EternalEnvy as there are a lot of other people who don't have the guts to take an opportunity like this (me) and other that fail at the attempt. The future would indeed suck if one simply gave up on what they wanted to do because he was not conforming to society or making the big money $_$.

All I want to say is that people should at least try and fail instead of never trying at all.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
fearpLug
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:01:55
November 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#655
On November 26 2012 05:19 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:03 Unleashing wrote:
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.

Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.

I think 5-s meant in the literal sense of results, as in Loda took home more money.


Na'vi got second in TI2 so i guess Loda did worse, even in Money.

btw, concerning the games
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dat Roshan Bait was so next-level. i was actually sitting there and be like : NO WAY!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:04:32
November 25 2012 21:03 GMT
#656
On November 26 2012 06:00 fearpLug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:19 Nevuk wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:03 Unleashing wrote:
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.

Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.

I think 5-s meant in the literal sense of results, as in Loda took home more money.


Na'vi got second in TI2 so i guess Loda did worse, even in Money.

Yeah, I thought 5-s was referring to DHW not TI2.

Anyways, EE was well-known in HoN but he has changed roles dramatically between the games and taken more of a leadership role than he had in HoN. The speed at which he adapted was rather impressive.

Admiral Bulldog and S4's play were also highly commendable for how rapidly they adapted. Unless S4 was well known?
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:09:29
November 25 2012 21:09 GMT
#657
WOW, so the OP quit school to play some Dota2, got a good team and now he won Dreamhack with them? (Sorry didn't follow the thread and I've only read the OP +some pages) I'm really happy for you OP!! Great job man! Hope this won't stop at Dreamhack for you and your team. Go go you can do this!!
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 25 2012 21:19 GMT
#658
On November 26 2012 05:03 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.
+ Show Spoiler +
Zenith won 35k USD, Na´vi took home 250k USD


Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.

I think 5-s means that CIS is often seen as a seperate region, thus Europeans and Americans are not Na'vi.

Not sure about this but I think this is what he means.
WriterXiao8~~
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:27:53
November 25 2012 21:21 GMT
#659
On November 26 2012 06:19 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:03 Unleashing wrote:
On November 26 2012 04:54 5-s wrote:
On November 25 2012 17:22 BlackGosu wrote:
he is the captain, drafts for the team, and calls the shots. about those veterans, as great as they are, when was the last time they won a big LAN tournament? of course credit to loda, akke, s4, and admiralbulldog. the whole nth team functioned as a single unit.

ok he was known in hon, what relevance does that have to do with being known in dota? aside from na, he wasn't well known internationally until dreamhack. his stream isn't even featured, although it should be, he has earned it.


Loda faired the the best out of all Europeans and Americans in TI2: he didn't go home empty handed like everyone else. Anyhow, he's been around for a while, everyone from NA knew him from before, which was my point.

Are we going to ignore the fact that estonia and ukraine are parts of europe?
Because i'd like to think that puppey, dendi and XBOCT did better than loda.
+ Show Spoiler +
Zenith won 35k USD, Na´vi took home 250k USD


Also, was very happy to see you win dreamhack, i hope to see you guys do well at TI3.

I think 5-s means that CIS is often seen as a seperate region, thus Europeans and Americans are not Na'vi.

Not sure about this but I think this is what he means.

Doesn't matter really, Ukraine and Estonia are parts of europe and Estonia is even a part of the EU. They are factually europeans.
Not to mention that neither Ukraine nor Estonia are a part of CIS. And Ukraine generally doesn't classify itself as a CIS country, seeing that it disagrees with Russia being the only legal successor of the Soviet Union.

Edit: This is the wrong thread for that though, but yea, they are europeans.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#660
Even Russia is a part of Europe, well some of it
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