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Russian Federation4050 Posts
August 18 2013 16:11 GMT
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This is a translated excerpt of the LGD.int.God interview by Morf-designer from prodota.ru on the 11th of August, the last day of The International's main event, during the Grand Final.

M - Morf-designer (prodota.ru correspondent and news writer)
G - Sergey "God" Bragin (LGD.int solo-mid player)


M : You were eliminated from the tournament, placing in 12th to 9th place. Tell us, are you going back to China?
G : 100% not.
M : What about LGD.int?
G : I don't know anything about LGD.int's future. We haven't talked about this yet. Maybe they will continue this project, replace the players that aren't coming back. Maybe they will close it. I don't know.
M : You said "players." So you know that there is someone else that isn't going back to China?
G : You will know everything soon. But yes, I am not the only one who isn't going back.

M : There was a story about your team's Chinese teacher that fell in love with someone.
G : So, we had Chinese lessons, about 3 times a week. Before practicing, we studied for an hour. At some point I noticed that there was some tension between Misery and the Chinese teacher. I asked him: "Rasmus, I've never asked you for anything in this life and never will, but do not ruin my Chinese lessons! Don't ruin it, man!" He said: "Yes, yes, it's fine." Next thing you know, she was fired. No personal relationships at work. So I was left without my Chinese lessons.

M : What is your next step? Are you going to continue to play professional Dota, or are you going to stream and play pubs for fun?
G : I have a dream. I've always wanted to play professional Dota. I think that this is the time to make this dream come true. I will start playing professional Dota, no more of this amateur stuff . But seriously, yes, I will continue to play. I don't know where yet, but whichever organization I will play in, I will try to be even more serious about everything, starting from the practice. I've see a live example in team Alliance. What they have right now is a result of hard work and very serious attitude.

M : Wasn't it the same with you? You even had a teamhouse. Alliance doesn't even have one.
G : Still, if you compare the amount of work that Alliance did in a year with that amount of work China did, Alliance has a clear advantage. They play even more games than some professional players only off their enthusiasm. AdmiralBulldog wasn't playing professionally a year ago. He was a pub star, but everybody only knew him as the guy who plays Lone Druid. After TI2, they played with S4 without any sponsors, and as far as I know, they did a huge amount of work and worked on themselves. Maybe they are not the best Dota players right now in terms of star power etc. There are players that exceed them in these parameters, but together they are one of the beast teams of the world.

M : Will you try to get into a Russian team? Or, since you played in an international team for a year, will you look for an international one?
G : My next step is to focus on a Russian speaking team. I will not talk about what conclusions I made for myself and by no means am I declaring that Russians have no chances in an international team. I will base my future choices on the conclusions I made.

M : What do you know about the comeback of old-school players like Art-Style, PGG, Santa, etc?
G : I heard about PGG coming back. I am not sure how serious it is, but most likely it will not be the same as what happened after TI2, when he was barely noticed. The only thing about Art-style that I know is that he plays a lot of Dota. I don't know why; maybe he's preparing for a comeback. As far as I know, Santa is playing mostly pubs with his friends. If Azen is going to make a comeback he will do so with PGG.

M : Do Chinese teams plan to create another international team after TI3?
G : I don't have this information. I am not sure if China understood the significance of the international teams and how to use them. I think that out team wasn't used to our full potential. It is easy to say for a guy who never did any of this stuff, but from my perspective, promoting international players in China is very easy. Releasing products with international players in China is very easy. It could be an additional source of income for players and for the organization. Also, I think that LGD.int should have constantly practiced with other Chinese teams and perfected some secret strategies. We ended up not playing with LGD.cn more than with any other team. As you can see, the results of the international team that spent a year is China isn't spectacular. Maybe Chinese organizations saw the results of this experiment and will not do this to themselves.

M : You talked about additional financing for the players. What was your salary? Was it super high, or was it similar to what you can get in Russia?
G : I am not going to talk about this that much due to disclosure of contract terms. I would probably earn more money in Europe, if I combined my salary with income from streaming. This year was quite scarce in China. There was nothing to do there. Perfect World took too long to release the game so there weren't any tournaments. Everyone was still playing DotA 1. At that moment, YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player.

M : LoL was recognized as an official sport in USA. In the "Free to Play" documentary, EHOME manager said that Dota was already a sport in China, but not an Olympic sport. Do you feel like Dota is a sport and do you think that it can become a sport in Europe?
G : Of course it can become a sport. In China, the presence of "clubs" that have agreements with each other, who sell players to each other, etc., is reminiscent of a real sport. There is a feeling of sport, but there is a big difference between just a sport and an Olympic sport. The fact that LoL is an Olympic sport doesn't mean that Dota will became one in the near future. LoL is a whole different story, as far as I know. I won't talk about this right now.

M : Is LoL bigger than Dota in China?
G : I can tell a story. I went to a barber and took a random Chinese guy (Kent) with me so he could explain what I need. During the hair cut the barber was super enthusiastic, smiling, and was a big LGD fan. We talked, but he never mentioned my nickname or the game I play. He took a picture with me, asked for an autograph. It doesn't happen every day, but people ask for an autograph, so I wasn't too surprised. Kent started to say something like: "LoL is a very popular sport in China." I ask: "Why are you talking about LoL"? He said: "I told him that you are a LoL player." So yes, LoL is popular.
LoL's advantage in China is that it can be played on any weak PC at LAN cafes, but Dota 2 can't be played on a weak PC. Dota 2 is has a much higher system requirements.

M : Do you miss Ladder point (Rankings) in Dota 2?
G : Have some kind of Ladder would be cool in my opinion. If it was added right now, I would probably get on it seriously, and I think there are other professional players that think the same. We'd tryhard against each other and aim for the highest ranking. Right now, the matchmaking system is weird. I sometimes get matched into good games, and sometimes there is a feeling that I am playing a pub game in Russia at 6 am against some boys that are skipping school.

M : What Dota skill would you want to have in real life?
G : I'd like to be Bane Elemental. Putting myself to sleep in a plane etc. would be great.
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noulss
Profile Joined November 2012
France353 Posts
August 18 2013 16:23 GMT
#2
thx for the translation =) please artstyle make a comeback please
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 18 2013 16:31 GMT
#3
M : You talked about additional financing for the players. What was your salary? Was it super high, or was it similar to what you can get in Russia?
G : I am not going to talk about this that much due to disclosure of contract terms. I would probably earn more money in Europe, if I combined my salary with income from streaming. This year was quite scarce in China. There was nothing to do there. Perfect World took too long to release the game so there weren't any tournaments. Everyone was still playing DotA 1. At that moment, YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player.

Now that's really interesting I thought most of China converted to dota 2 but to see that there's still more in dota 1 is actually kind of shocking.
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4mgg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland373 Posts
August 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#4
On August 19 2013 01:11 dfs wrote:
- - sometimes there is a feeling that I am playing a pub game in Russia at 6 am against some boys that are skipping school.


Spot on G.
Thanks for the translation. I for one would like to see a true hard working russian powerhouse.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 18 2013 16:33 GMT
#5
LoL is popular.
LoL's advantage in China is that it can be played on any weak PC at LAN cafes


Same for my country. Majority of DotA 2 players here either play at home. Very few PC cafes actually have DotA 2, notably we have Mineski. Considering that majority of gamers in our country play in PC shops, this is an advantage to LoL but even more to WC3 DotA
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 18 2013 16:36 GMT
#6
On August 19 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
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M : You talked about additional financing for the players. What was your salary? Was it super high, or was it similar to what you can get in Russia?
G : I am not going to talk about this that much due to disclosure of contract terms. I would probably earn more money in Europe, if I combined my salary with income from streaming. This year was quite scarce in China. There was nothing to do there. Perfect World took too long to release the game so there weren't any tournaments. Everyone was still playing DotA 1. At that moment, YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player.

Now that's really interesting I thought most of China converted to dota 2 but to see that there's still more in dota 1 is actually kind of shocking.

Relative popularity is probably comparable to the Brood War vs. SC2 popularity when BW was still being played from what I hear.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 18 2013 16:39 GMT
#7
Aww so I guess Yaphets won't be switching anytime soon =( if he is earning more playing Dota 1.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 16:45:17
August 18 2013 16:43 GMT
#8
What's funny is that LGD.int and LGD did about the same at TI. I was a big fan of LGD.int but it became apparent after their loss in G-League that they had stagnated, maybe due to team issues or something else (along with those weird position swaps and stuff). I hope G rounds out a good CIS team. Empire maybe, if Lost is going to be playing seriously, or something with Silent+Goblak. Old Empire was so good, but sadly that Funn1k swap decimated them.

My next step is to focus on a Russian speaking team. I will not talk about what conclusions I made for myself and by no means am I declaring that Russians have no chances in an international team. I will base my future choices on the conclusions I made.


That part especially makes it clear, he must have had some communication issues on LGD.int. Their play kinda already suggested that-but this just straight up basically says it.


M : There was a story about your team's Chinese teacher that fell in love with someone.
G : So, we had Chinese lessons, about 3 times a week. Before practicing, we studied for an hour. At some point I noticed that there was some tension between Misery and the Chinese teacher. I asked him: "Rasmus, I've never asked you for anything in this life and never will, but do not ruin my Chinese lessons! Don't ruin it, man!" He said: "Yes, yes, it's fine." Next thing you know, she was fired. No personal relationships at work. So I was left without my Chinese lessons.


o_O I feel sad for her
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 18 2013 16:44 GMT
#9
Have some kind of Ladder would be cool in my opinion. If it was added right now, I would probably get on it seriously, and I think there are other professional players that think the same.


I know valve is planning some type of implementation with rankings, but please do it soon. TI just ended and everyone's looking for new talent. Pub ladders are a great way to find new players that could be at the top of the game (admiral bulldog, julyzerg, etc.)
SimplyS
Profile Joined August 2013
Romania16 Posts
August 18 2013 17:02 GMT
#10
this guys seems so much fun..
I'm almost always drunk!
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
August 18 2013 17:13 GMT
#11
Thanks for the translation, gives some transparency as to how LGD's project worked out. Interesting thoughts in general!
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 18 2013 17:14 GMT
#12
It lasted longer than I thought, and produced about the same.
LiangHao
hellgoat
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden30 Posts
August 18 2013 17:31 GMT
#13
Poor Misery. The heart wants what the heart wants.

On another note I would like to see Pajkatt go to a different team. I feel like he has a higher potential than he showed in LGD.int.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 18 2013 17:33 GMT
#14
No pub ladder plz, or just shown for top 1000. 5o5 ladder, yeah go for it.
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 17:35:23
August 18 2013 17:35 GMT
#15
The chinese teacher situation wasn't optimal. Why couldn't they have gotten another teacher after that, though?
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
August 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#16
On August 19 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
M : You talked about additional financing for the players. What was your salary? Was it super high, or was it similar to what you can get in Russia?
G : I am not going to talk about this that much due to disclosure of contract terms. I would probably earn more money in Europe, if I combined my salary with income from streaming. This year was quite scarce in China. There was nothing to do there. Perfect World took too long to release the game so there weren't any tournaments. Everyone was still playing DotA 1. At that moment, YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player.

Now that's really interesting I thought most of China converted to dota 2 but to see that there's still more in dota 1 is actually kind of shocking.

hardly shocking imo, dota2 has a lot higher computer requirement, upgrading computers takes money
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
August 18 2013 17:59 GMT
#17
"YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player."

Yaphets being a baller still, nice to hear ^^ although sad he haven't switched to Dota2.
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BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
August 18 2013 18:26 GMT
#18
This is really sad, I love G and this INT roster...
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 18 2013 19:38 GMT
#19
dfs so good
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 18 2013 19:44 GMT
#20
I enjoyed the interview a lot. The story about how the barber though he was a LoL player was quite amusing.
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Oakenshield
Profile Joined January 2013
United States347 Posts
August 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#21
That is sad news, but a very informative interview. So more Swedes fall in love with more Asian women, this seems to be becoming a trend in Dota. I agree that if LGD.int is to disband, Pajkatt especially deserves a better team but I don't know where he'll find one. He would need a team fluent in either Swedish or English, and I can't think of any high level teams right now missing just one spot. Lots of Russian and Chinese teams are disbanding, but given the poor results of his international overseas training team I imagine he should try to go the route of Alliance. But there can only be one...and they already have 5.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 18 2013 20:37 GMT
#22
silly G, just get furion or wisp with global relocate :-/ Who need to use a plane?
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Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
August 18 2013 20:37 GMT
#23
On August 19 2013 02:59 Kentakky wrote:
"YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player."

Yaphets being a baller still, nice to hear ^^ although sad he haven't switched to Dota2.


I'm pretty sure YaphetS was playing for VG's B team for a while? Although given that their A team didn't even make TI, it makes sense that they would put more focus on their A team before venturing into a B team. That, or even from the B teamer's perspective it makes sense to leave. That, or more/most logically, the fact he can make more money streaming (I'm assuming?) than professionals sounds like a pretty darn good reason to play DotA.

But then again there's the FACT that wcIII's graphics are >>>>> Valve's DOTA
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 20:50:53
August 18 2013 20:45 GMT
#24
On August 19 2013 04:51 Oakenshield wrote:
So more Swedes fall in love with more Asian women, this seems to be becoming a trend in Dota.

Who besides loda and thorzain? And misery is danish.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 21:02:47
August 18 2013 21:01 GMT
#25
G looks like a really nice guy. Very solid interview, and big thanks to dfs for posting this here.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 21:36:38
August 18 2013 21:33 GMT
#26
On August 19 2013 05:45 Licit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 04:51 Oakenshield wrote:
So more Swedes fall in love with more Asian women, this seems to be becoming a trend in Dota.

Who besides loda and thorzain? And misery is danish.
Scandinavians are very openminded. A big part of me is attracted to asian females as well. Think they are more in correlation to the naivity of our male populace than the female, and we seem to seek the sweet and innocent as a reflection of our upbringing, and ultimately less complicated and restricting than the female counterparts in same countries - in general.
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
August 18 2013 21:54 GMT
#27
EG.Pajkatt PLEASE.
#TeamBuLba
Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
August 18 2013 22:32 GMT
#28
On August 19 2013 06:54 garlicface wrote:
EG.Pajkatt PLEASE.


I'm not the only one who likes Pajkatt

Felt like a lone flag in a sea of Alliance and Na'vi fans
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 19 2013 01:03 GMT
#29
LOL MISERY
cool interview, sad to see lgd.int have to die
:)
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
August 19 2013 01:09 GMT
#30
sick real life dota skill! except it would be a nightmare... hm. lol

nice interview, the barber shop thing was also amusing
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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
August 19 2013 01:17 GMT
#31
ooo I didn't know LoL is popular in China!
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
August 19 2013 04:23 GMT
#32
On August 19 2013 05:37 Koromon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:59 Kentakky wrote:
"YaphetS was still getting more money than any Dota 2 player."

Yaphets being a baller still, nice to hear ^^ although sad he haven't switched to Dota2.


I'm pretty sure YaphetS was playing for VG's B team for a while? Although given that their A team didn't even make TI, it makes sense that they would put more focus on their A team before venturing into a B team. That, or even from the B teamer's perspective it makes sense to leave. That, or more/most logically, the fact he can make more money streaming (I'm assuming?) than professionals sounds like a pretty darn good reason to play DotA.

But then again there's the FACT that wcIII's graphics are >>>>> Valve's DOTA


Yaphets wasn't playing in VG's B team, he was playing in VG"s promotional DOTA1 team that didn't end up playing a single competitive game under VG's banner.

And capitalizing the word fact doesn't make it fact, period. But then I'm getting baited here.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
August 19 2013 04:25 GMT
#33
On August 19 2013 06:54 garlicface wrote:
EG.Pajkatt PLEASE.


Tried that already
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 19 2013 04:27 GMT
#34
On August 19 2013 13:25 KOFgokuon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 06:54 garlicface wrote:
EG.Pajkatt PLEASE.


Tried that already

i dont think its possible for west coast NA players to practice with euro teammates anymore with the level of competition now, it was different back in those days
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 19 2013 07:30 GMT
#35
Thank you for the interview dfs. Very interesting.
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
August 19 2013 08:33 GMT
#36
On August 19 2013 06:54 garlicface wrote:
EG.Pajkatt PLEASE.

dear god please no....pajkatt is too good for that shit team
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hacking.dumpeu
Profile Joined August 2013
Belgium3 Posts
August 19 2013 08:42 GMT
#37
--- Nuked ---
Hs2u
Profile Joined August 2012
Singapore149 Posts
August 20 2013 00:53 GMT
#38
Thanks for the translation.
Love G interviews.
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KoRDragoon
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden63 Posts
August 20 2013 11:46 GMT
#39
im sorry but G don't strike me as very sympathetic person. I don't think he will go very much further in dota. I don't know this but my impression from this interview is that he is pretty selfish cares more about money than the game and don't have the passion necessary to be a part of building up a tier1 team like alliance did.
Also I'm pretty mad at russia at the moment.
"The Hardest Carry"
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
August 21 2013 15:06 GMT
#40
A little sad this international team venture was considered a "failure". Imo LGD.int had done really well and played an entertaining G-League going all the way to the grand final. The players must've been unhappy with other things, understandably there'll be high expectations but I don't think their results can be considered bad by any means...
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