EPTTI3 Hero Profile: Naga Siren - Page 3
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
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Yoshi~
New Zealand35 Posts
On September 07 2013 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote: My comment would be that tidehunter represents a LOT more damage in the early/midgame and as such can be an effective ganker in situations where naga mostly can't (since naga's riptide damage is lower than anchor smash at high levels and thats ignoring the damage on gush + ult). Naga's harder disable and the incredible level 1 damage on riptide (combined with its AoE -armor) make her a far better laning support though (and you covered most of the late-game applications). Obviously the TI3 "meta" favoured the early/late combination over the midgame monster. The amount of heroes that we saw hard-rushing BKB at TI3 despite IceFrog's recent nerfs to it's charge system and sellability also endear naga. PS: song has a distinct cast animation so while it is probably harder to respond to than ravage in terms of reflexive BKB usage, it is definitely not immune to that "counter". Obviously it interacts with BKB far better than ravage regardless. PPS: It might not have hurt to mention how strong naga is around roshan, one of the few heroes who can contest heroes like batrider both defensively and offensively in the pit. Naga is a true "King (queen?) of Roshan". I disagree with a lot of this post: 1. In late-game Anchor Smash doesn't do more than Riptide, because Anchor Smash is physical damage. 2. Naga is better than Tide for ganking, because Net -> Riptide >>> Gush -> Anchor Smash. This is especially true when locking down pesky heroes like Anti-Mage, Puck, QoP, Dark Seer. 3. Riptide has a lot more coverage, thanks to illusions, which you can't ignore when you compare the damage output of the heroes, you're right in that neither Net or Song don't deal any damage. 4. You can't BKB in reaction to Song cast animation. It's (almost) physically impossible to react to a 0.65s cast time. You have to anticipate it and turn BKB on beforehand (e.g. If you see Naga walking forward for it). The reason you can BKB-react for Ravage is because unlike Song, Ravage's spikes take time to reach you. If Tide Blinks right in your face and pops Ravage, you probably can't BKB-react. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
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TheEmulator
28091 Posts
On September 08 2013 23:30 superstartran wrote: I think a big miss on this article is that Naga Siren allows teams to engage and disengage on their terms rather than their opponents. This is critically shown multiple times by Alliance throughout the entire tournament. We still have an article coming about EGM's use of Naga at TI3. Certain points are left out for a reason. | ||
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Sharkey
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34493 Posts
On September 09 2013 14:29 Sharkey wrote: Do you know how many games were played at TI3? How many times did Naga get banned? You'll find out soon.  | ||
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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kuka
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On September 07 2013 04:38 TheEmulator wrote: I like Naga support. My sentiments exactly, Though what i really want to see is some veno .. sees so little play nowadays t.t Awesome write up, keep em coming, i shall keep devouring | ||
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josemb40
Peru611 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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damanism
United States2 Posts
Needless to say, the title is maybe just a smidge misleading. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 10 2013 01:38 damanism wrote: Sooo... A couple of winning teams happened to have had naga siren on as a port of the make up? There also happens to be a "drastic" 0.622" win percentage as well! wow, totally knews worthy! Needless to say, the title is maybe just a smidge misleading. "TI3 Hero Profile: Naga Siren" what a misleading title. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
thanks for the article, waiting for more | ||
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Elucidate
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Voronoff
United States302 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On September 10 2013 07:14 Elucidate wrote: She's an interesting hero certainly, but she also feels a bit...over-dependent on synergy. Really? I find she's pretty good at operating alone. | ||
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