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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
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TheEmulator
28088 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:07 SKC wrote: Well, it looks pretty and in depth? It really is a good explanation, but it's not exactly rocket science. The outer circle is the fixed 8mins, and the inner circle changes between 1, 2 or 3 minutes, and has 1, 2 or 3 mark, accordingly. The red unused time is probally the one thing that may not be clear at first. nvm, alur answered. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On October 25 2013 05:13 Irratonalys wrote: (double facepalm) but purges do. use the helmet to grab yourself the creep with the purge ability and use that to get rid of the necrocreep (triple facepalm) Even if you wait around for a random spawn of a Satyr camp and manage to get the Satyr Banisher (a 240 HP creep that gets blown up by any decent nuke by the time Necro comes into play), it won't even kill a level 2 Necronomicon unit. The strategy will only works against level 1 minions at 200 range, and the archer can destroy the Banisher with ease before he gets close. It's a huge waste of money to pick up a HotD for that explicit purpose if it's not part of your item build. | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:09 Alur wrote: How great can an explanation be if he doesn't understand the concept being explained? As you said, it's not exactly rocket science. Maybe he just didnt care enough to carefully read it and think about it and posted because he thought it looked cool? There really isn't a way to explain it much better than the way he did, in that amount of time. Plus, no matter how good one explanation is, someone will always not understand it. Have you actually read the explanation and think there is something wrong with it? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34490 Posts
On October 25 2013 04:23 Tunga wrote: Sorry fixed: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1p4uj2/bring_back_dota_2_campaign/ Downvoting because I disagree is how Reddit works, right? | ||
Derrida
2885 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:19 Firebolt145 wrote: Downvoting because I disagree is how Reddit works, right? yup. I like how it has a score of 0 | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:22 Derrida wrote: aha, so its not any random second between 8-11 minutes? i am disappoint. It is, that's what the red unused time line is used for. | ||
misirlou
Portugal3238 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:24 SKC wrote: It is, that's what the red unused time line is used for. What he meant is that you can know when he will spawn, not just randomly appear while you are waiting for it | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:28 misirlou wrote: What he meant is that you can know when he will spawn, not just randomly appear while you are waiting for it Well, yes, the spectator will know when he will spawn. Not the players. | ||
Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
Even if you wait around for a random spawn of a Satyr camp and manage to get the Satyr Banisher (a 240 HP creep that gets blown up by any decent nuke by the time Necro comes into play), it won't even kill a level 2 Necronomicon unit. The strategy will only works against level 1 minions at 200 range, and the archer can destroy the Banisher with ease before he gets close. It's a huge waste of money to pick up a HotD for that explicit purpose if it's not part of your item build. but you can also purge off other things like various buffs , ethereal status ecetera. im saying , there are still ways to deal with mass necrobook , people will adapt. | ||
Derrida
2885 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:28 misirlou wrote: What he meant is that you can know when he will spawn, not just randomly appear while you are waiting for it i actually meant what he answered because i hadn't read the article yet ![]() | ||
JackDragon
525 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:28 misirlou wrote: What he meant is that you can know when he will spawn, not just randomly appear while you are waiting for it It is random for the players. Observers can see exactly when it spawns. And no it is not static 0 1 2 3 minutes but any time between 0 and 3 minutes. Rosh will spawn when the timer goes into the red part. | ||
Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:12 SKC wrote: Maybe he just didnt care enough to carefully read it and think about it and posted because he thought it looked cool? There really isn't a way to explain it much better than the way he did, in that amount of time. Plus, no matter how good one explanation is, someone will always not understand it. Have you actually read the explanation and think there is something wrong with it? You're reading a lot into this my friend, the statement was merely an observation on the almost paradoxical nature of his statement - and only that. I suppose I need an asterix explaining that it's not meant to be taken as a slight towards the guide or the user I quoted? Maybe I was wrong in not doing that. | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:35 Alur wrote: You're reading a lot into this my friend, the statement was merely an observation on the almost paradoxical nature of his statement - and only that. I suppose I need an asterix explaining that it's not meant to be taken as a slight towards the guide or the user I quoted? Maybe I was wrong in not doing that. I'm just saying it's very easy for someone to not understand a great explanation, specially when we don't know if they even attempted it. Anyone that went to school should know how it's often not the teacher's fault. I didn't read a lot into your first statement, I just commented that I, someone who actually read it, though it was a good post. Your response was surprising to me since I believe everyone has seen cases where a good explanation alone doesn't go anywhere. | ||
Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:46 SKC wrote: I'm just saying it's very easy for someone to not understand a great explanation, specially when we don't know if they even attempted it. Anyone that went to school should know how it's often not the teacher's fault. I didn't read a lot into your first statement, I just commented that I, someone who actually read it, though it was a good post. Your response was surprising to me since I believe everyone has seen cases where a good explanation alone doesn't go anywhere. This is all great, but I consciously used the word "seems", do you not agree that the statements could "seem" conflicting? I just thought that it was mildly amusing, even though I easily understood the message he was conveying. Needless to say your comments on the learning process are entirely superfluous, because I agree. I will now go to bed less than mildly amused, thank you and goodnight. | ||
SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On October 25 2013 07:04 Alur wrote: This is all great, but I consciously used the word "seems", do you not agree that the statements could "seem" conflicting? I just thought that it was mildly amusing, even though I easily understood the message he was conveying. Needless to say your comments on the learning process are entirely superfluous, because I agree. I will now go to bed less than mildly amused, thank you and goodnight. Oh, your first comment makes sense. Your question "How great can an explanation be if he doesn't understand the concept being explained?" doesn't, since it can be from terrible to the best explanation on Earth. It seems you also agrees that being able to understand the concept isn't really necessairly related to the quality of the explanation. Thank you for the silly discussion, goodnight. | ||
Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
even with 5 minute delay slipping a player a message of what time it will respawn | ||
Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:30 Irratonalys wrote: but you can also purge off other things like various buffs , ethereal status ecetera. im saying , there are still ways to deal with mass necrobook , people will adapt. True. Mass Necronomicon will still be a strong strategy going into the future though. Many of the answers to it are very awkward and don't work as straight counters. And Necro is a very efficient item to use in terms of mana and costs. For just 50 mana you're getting a shitton of damage output and health, not to mention the auras + pure damage blowback + true sight + angles. | ||
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