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doesn't make it any less pathetic or wrong.
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I'll say its kinda a shame you can't just play the 6.78 map the way u can in wc3 but realistically that campaign is just... well the descriptors I'd use might get me warned rofl.
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" DotA developers may be killing the game similar to what happened in Starcraft II."
HAHAHAHAH+ Show Spoiler +....as if starcraft 2 was "killed" and wasn't just "not as good as bw to begin with". oh sorry, that's my personal agenda.
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United States15275 Posts
On October 25 2013 04:11 writer22816 wrote: so are necrobooks super imba now? judging from tongfu vs dk it's going to be really hard to counter a midgame 5 man push strat with multiple necronomicons.
No more HoM or HotD to deal with them, increased duration time, and being unable to fight Necro minions without risking all that pure damage blowback. Yeah, they're pretty good. XD
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6.79 just got released. Give it some time
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tournaments will probably just add rules of max necrobooks like in dota 1.
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Hon had a CD on the necrobook recipe much like smoke. I kinda liked that approach TBH but i'm quite willing to wait and see how this develops.
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diffusal blade and other purges counter necro, so just get a helmet of the dominator and control the purge creep if your unwilling to get a diff blade.
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United States15275 Posts
On October 25 2013 05:09 Irratonalys wrote: diffusal blade and other purges counter necro, so just get a helmet of the dominator and control the purge creep if your unwilling to get a diff blade.
(facepalm)
Helm of the Dominator and Hand of Midas no longer work on Necronomicon units.
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(facepalm)
Helm of the Dominator and Hand of Midas no longer work on Necronomicon units.
(double facepalm) but purges do. use the helmet to grab yourself the creep with the purge ability and use that to get rid of the necrocreep
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On October 25 2013 05:13 Irratonalys wrote:Show nested quote + (facepalm)
Helm of the Dominator and Hand of Midas no longer work on Necronomicon units.
(double facepalm) but purges do. use the helmet to grab yourself the creep with the purge ability and use that to get rid of the necrocreep Yeah, because it's as easy as it sounds. The purge has a very low range and the creep has an even lower hp. Good luck reliably purging necrooks with that.
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Yeah, because it's as easy as it sounds. The purge has a very low range and the creep has an even lower hp. Good luck reliably purging necrooks with that.
well , it shouldent be easy to use a 1800 gold item to get rid of a 5300 gold item. the purge creep is actually really small , and is easily overlooked in teamfights, ive pulled this off , and im not a good player in any way
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On October 24 2013 22:56 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 22:47 SKC wrote:On October 24 2013 21:34 govie wrote:On October 24 2013 21:26 bluegarfield wrote:On October 24 2013 21:21 govie wrote:I dont understand the below quote from OP, can someone clarify what AoE the agh.septer gives doom? thx - Doom Aghanim AoE requirement increased from 550 to 900 - Hide Spoiler - This is the AoE that is considered when freezing the duration of Aghanim upgraded Doom. it is the AoE in which the doomed target have the doom duration frozen, aka if Doom with aghs cast doom on Gyro, as long as Gyro stay within 900 range around Doom, the doom duration is frozen Thx! Thats a pretty nice upgrade, but dont know if that justifies an expensive septer. Could be i guess, lemme think  That's not the only change from Aghs, it also increases the duration and damage. It's still not exactly an amazing items for doom, but far more practical than it would be otherwise. Well, if there is no manasupport in the team (cm or kotl), I allways have mana issues. If i would go septer first, i can skip vangaurd and a shiva's is less good after septer anyways becuz ive allready got better manaproduction. So, septer could be potent because u can skip 2 expensive items if u can manage it all with a septer.` edit: Tried it with manaboots into --> bloodstone+septer -> u have a nice early tanking spellspammer but to much mana to spend. Not good!  You could just get mana boots --> scepter, and not bother with Bloodstone. Energy Booster doesn't obligate you to Bloodstone.
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On October 25 2013 05:21 Severedevil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On October 24 2013 22:47 SKC wrote:On October 24 2013 21:34 govie wrote:On October 24 2013 21:26 bluegarfield wrote:On October 24 2013 21:21 govie wrote:I dont understand the below quote from OP, can someone clarify what AoE the agh.septer gives doom? thx - Doom Aghanim AoE requirement increased from 550 to 900 - Hide Spoiler - This is the AoE that is considered when freezing the duration of Aghanim upgraded Doom. it is the AoE in which the doomed target have the doom duration frozen, aka if Doom with aghs cast doom on Gyro, as long as Gyro stay within 900 range around Doom, the doom duration is frozen Thx! Thats a pretty nice upgrade, but dont know if that justifies an expensive septer. Could be i guess, lemme think  That's not the only change from Aghs, it also increases the duration and damage. It's still not exactly an amazing items for doom, but far more practical than it would be otherwise. Well, if there is no manasupport in the team (cm or kotl), I allways have mana issues. If i would go septer first, i can skip vangaurd and a shiva's is less good after septer anyways becuz ive allready got better manaproduction. So, septer could be potent because u can skip 2 expensive items if u can manage it all with a septer.` edit: Tried it with manaboots into --> bloodstone+septer -> u have a nice early tanking spellspammer but to much mana to spend. Not good!  You could just get mana boots --> scepter, and not bother with Bloodstone. Energy Booster doesn't obligate you to Bloodstone. Or you could just not throw away 4200 gold and avoid purchasing aghs since its horrendous.
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On October 25 2013 05:18 Irratonalys wrote:Show nested quote +Yeah, because it's as easy as it sounds. The purge has a very low range and the creep has an even lower hp. Good luck reliably purging necrooks with that. well , it shouldent be easy to use a 1800 gold item to get rid of a 5300 gold item. the purge creep is actually really small , and is easily overlooked in teamfights, ive pulled this off , and im not a good player in any way A: you need a purge creep camp to spawn B: you need to keep it alive from AOEs, which are very popular right now C: good players can kill it with 1/2 hits D: 400 puge damage / 5 second cooldown means you'll need a lot of casting while it stays alive.
It could work, but its not very reliable.
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On October 25 2013 05:23 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:21 Severedevil wrote:On October 24 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On October 24 2013 22:47 SKC wrote:On October 24 2013 21:34 govie wrote:On October 24 2013 21:26 bluegarfield wrote:On October 24 2013 21:21 govie wrote:I dont understand the below quote from OP, can someone clarify what AoE the agh.septer gives doom? thx - Doom Aghanim AoE requirement increased from 550 to 900 - Hide Spoiler - This is the AoE that is considered when freezing the duration of Aghanim upgraded Doom. it is the AoE in which the doomed target have the doom duration frozen, aka if Doom with aghs cast doom on Gyro, as long as Gyro stay within 900 range around Doom, the doom duration is frozen Thx! Thats a pretty nice upgrade, but dont know if that justifies an expensive septer. Could be i guess, lemme think  That's not the only change from Aghs, it also increases the duration and damage. It's still not exactly an amazing items for doom, but far more practical than it would be otherwise. Well, if there is no manasupport in the team (cm or kotl), I allways have mana issues. If i would go septer first, i can skip vangaurd and a shiva's is less good after septer anyways becuz ive allready got better manaproduction. So, septer could be potent because u can skip 2 expensive items if u can manage it all with a septer.` edit: Tried it with manaboots into --> bloodstone+septer -> u have a nice early tanking spellspammer but to much mana to spend. Not good!  You could just get mana boots --> scepter, and not bother with Bloodstone. Energy Booster doesn't obligate you to Bloodstone. Or you could just not throw away 4200 gold and avoid purchasing aghs since its horrendous. Agha is good on doom, but he really needs some HP and armor before. Those no armor doom are so annoying in pubs.
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soooo much night time with nightstalker lvl3 ulti... jesus...
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These seem like conflicting statements.
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On October 25 2013 06:05 Alur wrote:These seem like conflicting statements. Well, it looks pretty and in depth?
It really is a good explanation, but it's not exactly rocket science. The outer circle is the fixed 8mins, and the inner circle changes between 1, 2 or 3 minutes, and has 1, 2 or 3 mark, accordingly. The red unused time is probally the one thing that may not be clear at first.
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