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On October 18 2013 08:27 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 08:21 makmeatt wrote:On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style. Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this. Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png Joke? All the hero changes of the patch are right in line with what he does. Nothing too ridiculous, but steady and slow. He decided to change the game mechanics because quite frankly almost everything about the 3-1-0 meta was garbage. This is actually right in line with everything that I've seen and makes perfect sense. He's willing to change how the game is played. This is anything but a bad thing. Good players will adapt, bad players will not. Please though, continue to talk about how this patch is for casuals. I'm sure the game will be so much easier now for everyone.
I will be easier for me to enjoy myself because it is so fucking crazy. Also, do casuals play dota? Aren't we stretching the definition of the word a bit when we start to include people who willing enter the harsh world of Dota 2?
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Wow
In summary, this patch kills alliance play style.
The gpm increase to 1 gold per 0.6s is also double edge. It means more gold earlier, which makes early attacks more viable but it also makes prolonging the game and picking defensive lineups more viable as well...
It seems like this patch is heavily influenced by the TI3 results... which makes perfect sense. I think all in all, good changes and more competition in dota.
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fuck yeah bitches, blink on venge !
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I don't know why people are so mad, it's really hard to foresee how the meta will shift from now. If it's for the better, we win, if it sux, we'll wait next patch. 3 1 0 was a bit dumb, good way to get rid of it.
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So how long until they update ? Feels meaningless to play normal dota games now that everything will change.
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On October 18 2013 08:34 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
Wow
In summary, this patch kills alliance play style.
The gpm increase to 1 gold per 0.6s is also double edge. It means more gold earlier, which makes early attacks more viable but it also makes prolonging the game and picking defensive lineups more viable as well...
It seems like this patch is heavily influenced by the TI3 results... which makes perfect sense. I think all in all, good changes and more competition in dota.
In my opinion, Valve/IceFrog are trying to make the game more aggressive so the game can reach a higher population, and to be fair 40-50 minutes of split pushing arent the most exciting thing ever, untill the last moments where you have the mid/late items
And dont get me wrong you need a lot of skills to split push and i love seeing it, but at the end...more blood and more aggressive meta would make the game more massive from a viewer/consumer point of view
Do i agree with it ? Mmm, not really... Do i think its a smart move ? Yes, in my opinion... it is
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Trilanes got hit hard. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
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On October 18 2013 08:27 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 08:21 makmeatt wrote:On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style. Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this. Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png Joke? All the hero changes of the patch are right in line with what he does. Nothing too ridiculous, but steady and slow. He decided to change the game mechanics because quite frankly almost everything about the 3-1-0 meta was garbage. This is actually right in line with everything that I've seen and makes perfect sense. He's willing to change how the game is played. This is anything but a bad thing. Good players will adapt, bad players will not. Please though, continue to talk about how this patch is for casuals. I'm sure the game will be so much easier now for everyone.
I'm not saying the patch is for casuals, I'm saying the ways they use seem familiar to me. Coming from other games where patches were much more common, sudden and aggressive changes were almost always identified as attempts to open up the game for a wider audience, hence the reference. Without nitpicking every single change that I dislike, changing everything at once just sucks (MORE RNG (mariner mentioned TA being god tier now for pit traps)).
Also, we'll see about 2-1-2. I strongly prefer 3-1-1 and 3-1-0 myself, so I'm curious to see how much better are the alternatives.
On October 18 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
Aren't we stretching the definition of the word a bit when we start to include people who willing enter the harsh world of Dota 2?
It's not harsh anymore, come on.
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This couldn't possibly be real, could it?
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Ok, guys. Ok.
I mean, wat?
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On October 18 2013 08:27 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 08:27 Oktyabr wrote:On October 18 2013 08:21 Shaella wrote:
guys the max mana regen is only 500
RIP skydunk mage, even with aghs you can't cast a jillion of those but with an od you can. doesn't proc OD aura ICEFRAUD FIX PLEASE
Arcane bolt has a 3s cd or something, all dem procs
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I was like:
"oh fuck huge patch for the game, looks like new and interesting meta is comming"
then i saw the bloodseeker video:
"wat, isfrug pls"
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Mid lane can now pull ancients and Riki is an invisible death star
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Videos for people who don't have test.
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THE COMMUNITY WANTED A PATCH.
ICEFROG GAVE THEM A PATCH.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I bet icefrog is somewhere in Valve HQ sipping on his tea, reading forum posts, with a grin on his face. #what #a #baller
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This is a ton of changes, guess we'll have to see how it plays out over the coming weeks.
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This will make some very interesting changes.
Very curious about pro-games for a while after that hit the live servers.
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Pubs will be hardcore as well. SO many broken things to try. It's a game to find out which ones are the most broken. Good grief.
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On October 18 2013 06:20 aintz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 06:17 FinalForm wrote:
why the FUCK should someone get XP for a neutral that i killed??? imagine a bounty hunter just sitting invis 24/7 next to a jungler getting exp and waiting to go for the kill. seems really stupid to me lol
+100 this is the worst change ever and the bs ms the second.I want to play a game with reasonable rules not a chaotic random shit where every crazy thing can happen.It seems icefrog makes changes for the sake of change.
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On October 18 2013 08:57 Esoterikk wrote:Mid lane can now pull ancients and Riki is an invisible death star + Show Spoiler +Videos for people who don't have test.
AAHAHHAHAAHA
I love this
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On October 18 2013 09:05 phantomlancer23 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 06:20 aintz wrote:On October 18 2013 06:17 FinalForm wrote:
why the FUCK should someone get XP for a neutral that i killed??? imagine a bounty hunter just sitting invis 24/7 next to a jungler getting exp and waiting to go for the kill. seems really stupid to me lol +100 this is the worst change ever and the bs ms the second.I want to play a game with reasonable rules not a chaotic random shit where every crazy thing can happen.It seems icefrog makes changes for the sake of change.
You apparently have not been playing DotA long enough.
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