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Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
October 17 2013 23:06 GMT
#741
So much Alliance hate this patch. I guess it's fine in the end.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
October 17 2013 23:07 GMT
#742
Wait so can bloodseeker now go faster than 522 movement speed?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 23:08:39
October 17 2013 23:07 GMT
#743
On October 18 2013 07:43 Nycaloth wrote:
Lastly, the courrier changes are just so random. 65 hp means it will easily take 2 hits in the early game to bring down, giving a lot more room for error and the new "no flying chicken before 3 mins" rule is just very arbitrary. Rosh timing also doesnt make sense to me, it just adds randomness where none need exist...

It's actually not arbitrary. If you cannot buy flying courier before 3 minutes, that means that you cannot Bottle-Crow effectively before ~3:30, because it's extraordinarily inefficient to Bottle-Crow without an un-upgraded courier.

This is relevant because it means that you cannot get a full round-trip on the courier in time for the 4 minute rune (which is now the first night-time rune).
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 17 2013 23:08 GMT
#744
On October 18 2013 08:07 Paperplane wrote:
Wait so can bloodseeker now go faster than 522 movement speed?


ffxiv enjoyer
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
October 17 2013 23:09 GMT
#745
Buy back change is kinda bull shit
Oppa feeding style
Nethermind
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand445 Posts
October 17 2013 23:12 GMT
#746
These changes are OTT man...
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 23:19:51
October 17 2013 23:18 GMT
#747
Oh man pubs will give me such hard grief with these changes. Sooner or later something(s) will be so imbalance that I'll always be on the receiving end of it.

It's like playing a new game with these changes. Could be good in the long run. Besides, if some of these changes aren't what it should be, then I'm sure following quick fixes and patches will do the trick.

I trust IceFrog and Valve. There hasn't been a single patch before that changes almost everything more than this one. Hopefully they deliver.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
October 17 2013 23:20 GMT
#748
This patch is bull shit. Its changing the whole fking game....
Oppa feeding style
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
October 17 2013 23:21 GMT
#749
On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style.

Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this.
Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 17 2013 23:21 GMT
#750
guys the max mana regen is only 500

RIP skydunk mage, even with aghs you can't cast a jillion of those
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
October 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#751
On October 18 2013 08:21 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style.

Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this.
Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png


Sounds very much like an usual dota patch to me.

I expected insanity, icefrog delivered.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#752
On October 18 2013 08:21 Shaella wrote:
guys the max mana regen is only 500

RIP skydunk mage, even with aghs you can't cast a jillion of those


but with an od you can.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#753
On October 18 2013 08:21 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style.

Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this.
Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png


Joke?

All the hero changes of the patch are right in line with what he does. Nothing too ridiculous, but steady and slow. He decided to change the game mechanics because quite frankly almost everything about the 3-1-0 meta was garbage. This is actually right in line with everything that I've seen and makes perfect sense. He's willing to change how the game is played. This is anything but a bad thing. Good players will adapt, bad players will not.

Please though, continue to talk about how this patch is for casuals. I'm sure the game will be so much easier now for everyone.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#754
On October 18 2013 08:27 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 08:21 Shaella wrote:
guys the max mana regen is only 500

RIP skydunk mage, even with aghs you can't cast a jillion of those


but with an od you can.

doesn't proc OD aura
ICEFRAUD FIX PLEASE
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
October 17 2013 23:29 GMT
#755
On October 18 2013 08:21 Shaella wrote:
guys the max mana regen is only 500

RIP skydunk mage, even with aghs you can't cast a jillion of those


Thats why you get an OD.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
October 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#756
I WAKE UP AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED!?

Wtf. Brb studying the changes
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 23:32:01
October 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#757
I wonder how fast carries will be able to get Hand Of Midas, Battlefury, etc...

If im not mistaken youre getting 33% extra gold, although a lot less from neutral camps, Supports are going to be so happy about this (Im a support player lol)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Morton
Profile Joined July 2012
United States152 Posts
October 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#758
wow they really put the kaibosh on defensive trilanes
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 23:34:47
October 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#759
On October 18 2013 08:21 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 07:48 Nocticate wrote:
I think he was, a lot of these changes seem like his style.

Most of these changes look exactly NOT like his own. Personally, I dislike almost the entirety of the patch, except for the light (or not so) changes that could potentially level the heroes' impacts on the game. It's like they decided to turn the game upside down in most aspects and it smells more of someone who wants to cater to casuals by making everything seem fresh again than a toned, experienced dev working on a title like this.
Too sudden for me to like this. Relevant pic: http://i.imgur.com/w10D0.png

I feel this pic is more acurate:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


At least to the reaction people have (and have always had) to Dota patches.

Edit: fixed
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
October 17 2013 23:32 GMT
#760
I really dont get the sentyr change
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