Maybe once or twice, but it will be as common as aghs lion.
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How did that end up working out, btw?
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Maybe once or twice, but it will be as common as aghs lion. ... How did that end up working out, btw? | ||
Belha
Italy2850 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:25 Paluth wrote: IO, Batrider, Naga, Troll, Elder Titan, Life Stealer, Outworld Devourer, Visage. Why do these heroes have to be picked/banned in the first phase of 95% of all the pro games played? Just the fact that these heroes where nerfed makes this patch awesome in my opnion. Now I can actually be surprise while watching the early draft. Eventually things will settle down and some combination of heroes will replace the current 8 heroes. But then Icefrog can again mess things up, and the game resettle and the cycle continues. Change is what makes a game like dota great. Image 2 consecutive internationals with similar metas? That would just be sad. Just look at the vods of international when a captain chooses a hero thats not standard the crowd goes wild. People don't really like to watch the same thing over and over just executed by diferent teams. This patch makes more heroes viable in pro games, and so gives more room for teams to have unique playstyles. And that makes the game better to watch. As far as playing is concerned, it doesnt really matter. Unless you are one of those ppl that can only play a couple different heroes and suddenly you are nerfed, there are tons of possibilities for fun picks at pubs. Of course there are a ton of non-hero changes that could cause problems. But maybe it could be great. The patch is just so big thats hard to tell. In general I'm quite happy with this patch and looking forward to playing with it as well as watching it being played. This. Also that is what made Sc2 such a failure (besides the bad design/planing), they never set as a target to change meta and units in poupuse. That would have made the game and the pro scene much more entertaining. I like the "big changes" aproach of the patch. | ||
Pegas
Romania211 Posts
For the idiots who are crying now, you wanted change, you got it: Stale trilane meta is destroyed(You want stale metas, head to LoL) Regen Pooling and Bottle-Crowing nerfed(into the ground, now rune-control actually counts for something) A whole new take on Roshan control. Now it won't matter as much which side you're on. You want the Aegis, vision is crucial. Major nerfs to ratdoto: buyback nerfs, Shadowblade nerf, even the jungle nerf. NP is now "viable" instead of OP. Many of you seem to have forgotten or never actually saw the changes that made Dota what it is today. 1 skill, 20sec BKB Naix, Frenzy Viper/Razor, Carry Treant, they all came and went. This is Icefrog's way of balance. Welcome to Dota scrubs. | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Rubick Aghanim is just insane, same as Enigmas. Slarks buffs/nerfs are quite cool, but hero becomes virtually unkillable for 4 seconds O.o and PA's Dagger getting crit is very nice addition. Pudge and Venge with Blinks, I love it. I must say that this patch will probably change the game to 2-1-2 lanes with all those jungling/neutral pulling nerfs. And I like that, in those games, all of the lanes are very active, and buyback is nerfed for hard carries. I am really looking forward to this. ![]() | ||
MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Excited about this patch, even if it feels almost too insane to be real. | ||
Glennial
Norway29 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:04 bNoLuck wrote: I really love Dota and all and I can really understand some of these changes..But this is it for me. If these changes get implemented I'll tryout LOL and if it's too horrible I'll stop playing games entirely. I don't even see the need behind this..The current patch wasn't even close to being figured out o.o oh my god. so much drama. isnt playing a game fun to you? then yeah, you should stop playing them, i can guarantee you that much of the game is gonna be the same essence, just under another set of rules. | ||
BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:17 Pegas wrote: To quote someone : For the idiots who are crying now, you wanted change, you got it: Stale trilane meta is destroyed(You want stale metas, head to LoL) Regen Pooling and Bottle-Crowing nerfed(into the ground, now rune-control actually counts for something) A whole new take on Roshan control. Now it won't matter as much which side you're on. You want the Aegis, vision is crucial. Major nerfs to ratdoto: buyback nerfs, Shadowblade nerf, even the jungle nerf. NP is now "viable" instead of OP. Many of you seem to have forgotten or never actually saw the changes that made Dota what it is today. 1 skill, 20sec BKB Naix, Frenzy Viper/Razor, Carry Treant, they all came and went. This is Icefrog's way of balance. Welcome to Dota scrubs. I concur | ||
trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
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Hurricane Sponge
868 Posts
On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote: Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?! The CD is for giving it to someone else. Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore. I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling. | ||
Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
Mostly because i think i'm the only good pub broodmother i've ever seen | ||
lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote: On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote: Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?! The CD is for giving it to someone else. Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore. I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling. Some (incorrectly, I argue) use "pulling" instead of "pooling" as the phenomenon of support buying regen items to others. Then again, I think the same thing about people who use the term "ganging" instead of "ganking". | ||
Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:31 sumsaR wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2013 07:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote: On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote: On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote: Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?! The CD is for giving it to someone else. Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore. I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling. Some (incorrectly, I argue) use "pulling" instead of "pooling" as the phenomenon of support buying regen items to others. Then again, I think the same thing about people who use the term "ganging" instead of "ganking". ... why would you use pulling? Pulling is about pulling creeps out. pooling is about POOLING your gold on one hero POOLING IS AN ACTUAL TERM. PEOPLE POOL THEIR MONEY. | ||
Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:29 lowercase wrote: I love the nerf to NP's treants. If you're not careful you're going to feed the opposing team with them. Overall good changes, but some of the nerfs to jungle creeps are going to be a nerf to chen/enchantress/helm of the dominator as well. and thats why the change is important | ||
FlyingSteaks
Brazil433 Posts
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