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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
October 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#701
Pretty sure we won't see the skywrath change very often, if ever.

Maybe once or twice, but it will be as common as aghs lion.

...

How did that end up working out, btw?
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
October 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#702
On October 18 2013 05:25 Paluth wrote:
IO, Batrider, Naga, Troll, Elder Titan, Life Stealer, Outworld Devourer, Visage. Why do these heroes have to be picked/banned in the first phase of 95% of all the pro games played? Just the fact that these heroes where nerfed makes this patch awesome in my opnion. Now I can actually be surprise while watching the early draft. Eventually things will settle down and some combination of heroes will replace the current 8 heroes. But then Icefrog can again mess things up, and the game resettle and the cycle continues. Change is what makes a game like dota great. Image 2 consecutive internationals with similar metas? That would just be sad. Just look at the vods of international when a captain chooses a hero thats not standard the crowd goes wild. People don't really like to watch the same thing over and over just executed by diferent teams.
This patch makes more heroes viable in pro games, and so gives more room for teams to have unique playstyles. And that makes the game better to watch. As far as playing is concerned, it doesnt really matter. Unless you are one of those ppl that can only play a couple different heroes and suddenly you are nerfed, there are tons of possibilities for fun picks at pubs.
Of course there are a ton of non-hero changes that could cause problems. But maybe it could be great. The patch is just so big thats hard to tell. In general I'm quite happy with this patch and looking forward to playing with it as well as watching it being played.

This.

Also that is what made Sc2 such a failure (besides the bad design/planing), they never set as a target to change meta and units in poupuse. That would have made the game and the pro scene much more entertaining.

I like the "big changes" aproach of the patch.
Chicken gank op
Pegas
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania211 Posts
October 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#703
To quote someone :

For the idiots who are crying now, you wanted change, you got it:
Stale trilane meta is destroyed(You want stale metas, head to LoL)
Regen Pooling and Bottle-Crowing nerfed(into the ground, now rune-control actually counts for something)
A whole new take on Roshan control. Now it won't matter as much which side you're on. You want the Aegis, vision is crucial.
Major nerfs to ratdoto: buyback nerfs, Shadowblade nerf, even the jungle nerf. NP is now "viable" instead of OP.
Many of you seem to have forgotten or never actually saw the changes that made Dota what it is today. 1 skill, 20sec BKB Naix, Frenzy Viper/Razor, Carry Treant, they all came and went. This is Icefrog's way of balance. Welcome to Dota scrubs.
As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#704
I love the Meepo buff, he actually can become quite useful at level 4 and onwards, ganking all over the map, and killing heroes alone, I love his changes.

Rubick Aghanim is just insane, same as Enigmas. Slarks buffs/nerfs are quite cool, but hero becomes virtually unkillable for 4 seconds O.o and PA's Dagger getting crit is very nice addition.

Pudge and Venge with Blinks, I love it.

I must say that this patch will probably change the game to 2-1-2 lanes with all those jungling/neutral pulling nerfs. And I like that, in those games, all of the lanes are very active, and buyback is nerfed for hard carries. I am really looking forward to this.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 22:19:04
October 17 2013 22:18 GMT
#705
WRONG THREAD.


Excited about this patch, even if it feels almost too insane to be real.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Glennial
Profile Joined October 2012
Norway29 Posts
October 17 2013 22:18 GMT
#706
huge patch, basicly a new game !
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
October 17 2013 22:19 GMT
#707
On October 18 2013 07:04 bNoLuck wrote:
I really love Dota and all and I can really understand some of these changes..But this is it for me.
If these changes get implemented I'll tryout LOL and if it's too horrible I'll stop playing games entirely.
I don't even see the need behind this..The current patch wasn't even close to being figured out o.o


oh my god. so much drama. isnt playing a game fun to you? then yeah, you should stop playing them, i can guarantee you that much of the game is gonna be the same essence, just under another set of rules.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
October 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#708
On October 18 2013 07:17 Pegas wrote:
To quote someone :

For the idiots who are crying now, you wanted change, you got it:
Stale trilane meta is destroyed(You want stale metas, head to LoL)
Regen Pooling and Bottle-Crowing nerfed(into the ground, now rune-control actually counts for something)
A whole new take on Roshan control. Now it won't matter as much which side you're on. You want the Aegis, vision is crucial.
Major nerfs to ratdoto: buyback nerfs, Shadowblade nerf, even the jungle nerf. NP is now "viable" instead of OP.
Many of you seem to have forgotten or never actually saw the changes that made Dota what it is today. 1 skill, 20sec BKB Naix, Frenzy Viper/Razor, Carry Treant, they all came and went. This is Icefrog's way of balance. Welcome to Dota scrubs.


I concur
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
October 17 2013 22:22 GMT
#709
volvo ded gaem -> 6.79 changelog -> volvo pls ded gaem again

typical internet whiner pattern
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 17 2013 22:23 GMT
#710
hard to predict anything about this patch but holy shit broodmother webs are retarded.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
October 17 2013 22:24 GMT
#711
Sexy Bamboe gonna Wreck faces now...Dat Broodmother Buff
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
October 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#712
On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote:
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!

The CD is for giving it to someone else.

Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore.


I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#713
that makes me remember I miss 1 button rage naix even if I didnt try 20 second rage one.
In the woods, there lurks..
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
October 17 2013 22:26 GMT
#714
I am ready for broodmother to come back

Mostly because i think i'm the only good pub broodmother i've ever seen
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
October 17 2013 22:29 GMT
#715
I love the nerf to NP's treants. If you're not careful you're going to feed the opposing team with them. Overall good changes, but some of the nerfs to jungle creeps are going to be a nerf to chen/enchantress/helm of the dominator as well.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
October 17 2013 22:31 GMT
#716
On October 18 2013 07:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote:
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!

The CD is for giving it to someone else.

Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore.


I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling.

Some (incorrectly, I argue) use "pulling" instead of "pooling" as the phenomenon of support buying regen items to others.

Then again, I think the same thing about people who use the term "ganging" instead of "ganking".
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
October 17 2013 22:32 GMT
#717
On October 18 2013 07:31 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 07:25 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:52 Testuser wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:50 Gentso wrote:
Wait a minute... is a a minute cooldown to use a tango to eat a tree each time or only a minute cooldown to give a charge to someone else?!?!

The CD is for giving it to someone else.

Also, it'll be interesting to see how teams will do in the future, since this means pulling is basically over. Or well, you just can't pull a ton to your carry anymore.


I think you mean 'pooling'. Unless you actually meant pulling, in which case I'm confused because I didn't see the part in the notes that kills pulling.

Some (incorrectly, I argue) use "pulling" instead of "pooling" as the phenomenon of support buying regen items to others.

Then again, I think the same thing about people who use the term "ganging" instead of "ganking".

...
why would you use pulling? Pulling is about pulling creeps out. pooling is about POOLING your gold on one hero

POOLING IS AN ACTUAL TERM. PEOPLE POOL THEIR MONEY.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#718
100% troll, sure is a fake
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#719
On October 18 2013 07:29 lowercase wrote:
I love the nerf to NP's treants. If you're not careful you're going to feed the opposing team with them. Overall good changes, but some of the nerfs to jungle creeps are going to be a nerf to chen/enchantress/helm of the dominator as well.

and thats why the change is important
FTD
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
October 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#720
Playing DotA since 2009 and following the comp scene since 2010, I find some people's reactions in this thread pretty funny. Huge crazy patches is how Icefrog's been doing since forever, so deal with it and enjoy the new crazy mess that's going to come.
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