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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
December 19 2013 12:02 GMT
#1

Hey everyone. I have decided to step down as a competitive player--I will be focusing on commentating from now on and continue to run my personal stream.

I would like to make it clear that I am still a part of mousesports, albeit not in the role of a professional player from now on.

We'll see what 2014 holds--I'm expecting continued growth with more events and competition, and am hoping to be a big part of these events and making Dota 2 more enjoyable--just in a different role.

Thanks for all your support along the way, and I hope you'll enjoy what I'll be bringing to the table from now on!

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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 19 2013 12:04 GMT
#2
Good choice

Synderen is a great caster, hope to see a lot of him.
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TheLynguist
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany45 Posts
December 19 2013 12:06 GMT
#3
good on him, he is really amazing as a caster, looking forward to this
Darthozzan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden136 Posts
December 19 2013 12:06 GMT
#4
Always thought this would be a good choice for Synd, and I approve :} He's a great guy and deserves all the success in the world, and I hope his career as whatever he wants to do will be very successful!
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
December 19 2013 12:08 GMT
#5
Good step after what happened inside the team. Was a good move, couldn't see any results from him in competetive gaming anymore, especially after the failure of moving to mid position.
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TheRubicon
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1342 Posts
December 19 2013 12:09 GMT
#6
I miss the days of him playing #1 role.
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
December 19 2013 12:09 GMT
#7
It's sad that he never seemed to get the victories he quite wanted as a player, but I can't say I'm disappointed with the news. There's no better caster out there right now, hope he gets some stable schedules for casting soon!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
December 19 2013 12:10 GMT
#8
Castersynderen best synderen!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 19 2013 12:16 GMT
#9
Someone else has a shot at winning TI qualifiers now
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
December 19 2013 12:16 GMT
#10
He was still a very strong player, it is very hard to win dreamhacks and TI qualifiers with so many different teams. Best of luck to him, pretty much everyone agrees that he is one of the best casters out there.
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Kosak
Profile Joined August 2013
Czech Republic193 Posts
December 19 2013 12:22 GMT
#11
I absolutely support that decision
it's good to be the king
jimmydu444
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada250 Posts
December 19 2013 12:24 GMT
#12
On December 19 2013 21:16 Zozo wrote:
He was still a very strong player, it is very hard to win dreamhacks and TI qualifiers with so many different teams. Best of luck to him, pretty much everyone agrees that he is one of the best casters out there.


No he wasn't. I have never seen a player so consistently have as little impact as Synderen does in a game. When he played solo mid, he almost always ends up with the same net worth as a role 4 player by mid game, unless his team is crushing. When he played support on Mouz, he is more often out of position and feeding than not.

The only statement that Tobi has ever said, to which I agree with, is that Synderen is "a four letter word that starts with S".

He is an excellent caster, but not a good player.
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I_love_sharkpeople
Profile Joined October 2013
United States253 Posts
December 19 2013 12:24 GMT
#13
Tough choice for any pro, but I think it's the right one. His commentary is excellent and the scene could really use some more full-time ex-pro commentators.. Good luck synd!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
December 19 2013 12:27 GMT
#14
I simply can't be unhappy that synderen will be casting more now. ^_^
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SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
December 19 2013 12:33 GMT
#15
Definitly the right call, I like the guy and rooted for his teams often, but he just lacked a lot as a player and captain for too long and didn't have the courage to stick to the style mouz played before TI3, which led them to try to copy others instead and made them fail.
Looking forward to seeing him cast again and won't forget his past victories before his breakthrough in dota2 though.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 19 2013 12:44 GMT
#16
On December 19 2013 21:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
I simply can't be unhappy that synderen will be casting more now. ^_^


I only wish he was less stubborn and made this choice long ago. Imagine how big him and Tobi would be at this point . You just had to keep winning the Western qualifiers dammit
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 19 2013 12:49 GMT
#17
can't say i'm not surprised. his play has been very VERY mediocre, but casting-wise, really great. hope he becomes a full time casting analyst (don't always agree with his views 100%, but at least it's pretty good most of the time!)
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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
December 19 2013 12:54 GMT
#18
Well as it is true that he is not a top tier player he is an good captain. he knows how to pic lame boring but well working shit together and he is a personality. Never understood why EG did not pick him up. He could be the EG´s Incontrol of Dota2.

Well lets hope he understands that his way of casting is kind of gretorp style. For me pretty boring to listen solo so he needs a Tobi at his side to make a great cast out of it.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10871 Posts
December 19 2013 12:55 GMT
#19
Mr. Firstblood moves on :D.

Good, I like his casting .
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
December 19 2013 12:58 GMT
#20
Not unexpected, but his casting is awesome, so I expect the continuation of good things from him.
4N7
Profile Joined October 2013
Italy4 Posts
December 19 2013 13:05 GMT
#21
I am pleased to see that he will still remain a presence in this esport.

Hope to see him soon casting a great tournament.
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
December 19 2013 13:19 GMT
#22
He's a great player, but there are a lot of those. He's the absolute best caster. Now we just need him to team up with Merlini and my life will be complete.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
December 19 2013 13:25 GMT
#23
Well, the "new" fail-Mouz wasn't going to work after it became clear the players will not be willing to work the game as a job. This was entirely expected.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 19 2013 13:27 GMT
#24
GG He was a good player. He'll be missed.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
December 19 2013 13:27 GMT
#25
On December 19 2013 22:19 CaptainPlatypus wrote:
He's a great player, but there are a lot of those. He's the absolute best caster. Now we just need him to team up with Merlini and my life will be complete.


I think he will now be a regular on BTS, so that might happen.

They are both analytic commentators, filling the same slot in a broadcast team, so maybe not.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 19 2013 13:49 GMT
#26
On December 19 2013 21:49 konadora wrote:
can't say i'm not surprised. his play has been very VERY mediocre, but casting-wise, really great. hope he becomes a full time casting analyst (don't always agree with his views 100%, but at least it's pretty good most of the time!)

Yup, completely agree with this statement. I support his decision, good luck Synd!
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
December 19 2013 13:52 GMT
#27
its a bit sad since he is such a good ingame leader and player but just got stuck in teams that had players that couldnt stay together more than 6 months. but hey hes one of those few players that has a personality that can probably make him more money in the long run casting
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 19 2013 13:57 GMT
#28
But who is going to continue his career at TI4?
Whose going to win the qualifier in his place? Whose going to lose in the first round of the losers bracket in his stead?

A piece of dota 2 repeating history stops repeating with his retirement.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
December 19 2013 14:02 GMT
#29
PLS CAST! tobi + synd = <3
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
December 19 2013 14:03 GMT
#30


"Just to throw it out there, we are looking for another full time caster (expert analysis) only for quality and dedicated people that want it" - Tobi's twitter.

Oh well too bad there's no one available amirite.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
December 19 2013 14:04 GMT
#31
Too bad, I always cheered for him. Good thing though that his casting is awesome, so I'm looking forward to his expertise!
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Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
December 19 2013 14:08 GMT
#32
On December 19 2013 21:24 jimmydu444 wrote:
No he wasn't. I have never seen a player so consistently have as little impact as Synderen does in a game. When he played solo mid, he almost always ends up with the same net worth as a role 4 player by mid game, unless his team is crushing. When he played support on Mouz, he is more often out of position and feeding than not.

The only statement that Tobi has ever said, to which I agree with, is that Synderen is "a four letter word that starts with S".

He is an excellent caster, but not a good player.



These kind of statements always puzzles me. How can you call a player bad, when hes been competing with and against the best of the best for so many years? If he really was shit, why did his teammates want to play with him? Was all his TI apperances, dreamhack victories ect just because of amazing teammates? Just seems like such a weird statement.



Life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish flanders was dead. - Homer
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9572 Posts
December 19 2013 14:09 GMT
#33
Really sad day for me Synd was one of my favourite players. I hope he'll cast a lot more now Tobi's energy + synd's insight = nerdgasm casting!
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Dyssa
Profile Joined May 2011
32 Posts
December 19 2013 14:10 GMT
#34
GG Synd - best caster EU, potentially world.
Cervidaez
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain31 Posts
December 19 2013 14:15 GMT
#35
This saddens me because it seems like he wasn't motivated anymore to compete, but hopefully he'll still have that "spark" for commentating.
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
December 19 2013 14:17 GMT
#36
On December 19 2013 23:08 Silan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 21:24 jimmydu444 wrote:
No he wasn't. I have never seen a player so consistently have as little impact as Synderen does in a game. When he played solo mid, he almost always ends up with the same net worth as a role 4 player by mid game, unless his team is crushing. When he played support on Mouz, he is more often out of position and feeding than not.

The only statement that Tobi has ever said, to which I agree with, is that Synderen is "a four letter word that starts with S".

He is an excellent caster, but not a good player.



These kind of statements always puzzles me. How can you call a player bad, when hes been competing with and against the best of the best for so many years? If he really was shit, why did his teammates want to play with him? Was all his TI apperances, dreamhack victories ect just because of amazing teammates? Just seems like such a weird statement.



I like him but he really wasn't a good player (according to pro standards) man and his skills as a captain were lacking in crucial moments as well.
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 19 2013 14:45 GMT
#37
On December 19 2013 23:08 Silan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 21:24 jimmydu444 wrote:
No he wasn't. I have never seen a player so consistently have as little impact as Synderen does in a game. When he played solo mid, he almost always ends up with the same net worth as a role 4 player by mid game, unless his team is crushing. When he played support on Mouz, he is more often out of position and feeding than not.

The only statement that Tobi has ever said, to which I agree with, is that Synderen is "a four letter word that starts with S".

He is an excellent caster, but not a good player.



These kind of statements always puzzles me. How can you call a player bad, when hes been competing with and against the best of the best for so many years? If he really was shit, why did his teammates want to play with him? Was all his TI apperances, dreamhack victories ect just because of amazing teammates? Just seems like such a weird statement.





Well, you can safely say so if you compare him with his peers. Obviously he is better than the average pub, but he is definitely not the standard of top players. As someone has mentioned earlier, Synderen doesn't usually make a good impact when he is a solo mid. You often see him fall behind in net worth. There is the occasional good games, but so far he hasn't really performed well enough.

On December 19 2013 22:57 Mataza wrote:
But who is going to continue his career at TI4?
Whose going to win the qualifier in his place? Whose going to lose in the first round of the losers bracket in his stead?

A piece of dota 2 repeating history stops repeating with his retirement.


Well socks and 7ckngmad was with him in TI2, while fata and pas did it in TI3. I suppose you can say Sigma is going to win TI4 Qualifiers :D You heard it here first!

One thing that's a pity though is the current Mouz (when Synderen was still playing with them) had a good few games. I recall that they ran support Kunkka for several games, and they were very successful with it. It's a pity that they no longer draft him anymore.

Anyway while Synderen has his weakness, he is no doubt a great co-caster. His strategic and analytic insights are great to listen. I look forward to more of his casts!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 19 2013 15:00 GMT
#38
On December 19 2013 23:03 traumatism wrote:
https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/413669519375093760

"Just to throw it out there, we are looking for another full time caster (expert analysis) only for quality and dedicated people that want it" - Tobi's twitter.

Oh well too bad there's no one available amirite.



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Nolfster
Profile Joined November 2011
Slovakia109 Posts
December 19 2013 15:01 GMT
#39
He was good talker but average player.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
December 19 2013 15:02 GMT
#40
This is probably the most praise anyone has gotten from retiring.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 19 2013 15:03 GMT
#41
his iG-LGD match cast at TI2 is still my favorite analysis of any game ever, i think.
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Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
December 19 2013 15:08 GMT
#42
I'm sad, no more free rares
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 19 2013 15:29 GMT
#43
Looking forward to whats in the future for Synd, always love his stuff.
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Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
December 19 2013 15:39 GMT
#44
Kind of sad on one hand, but really happy to see more casts from him he's SO GOOD. Even his pub game on the fly comments about the on-going game are more entertaining and educative then some pro-game casts.. Gl Synd!!!
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
December 19 2013 15:50 GMT
#45
Probably too late, he has been a better caster than a player for a long time now.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 19 2013 15:59 GMT
#46
He wanted to be remembered as a player, not a caster but things whether deserved or not just never worked out for him
Oakenshield
Profile Joined January 2013
United States347 Posts
December 19 2013 16:04 GMT
#47
On December 20 2013 00:59 Kuroeeah wrote:
He wanted to be remembered as a player, not a caster but things whether deserved or not just never worked out for him



I really feel the opposite is true. The last time I remember a single game where Synderin was a major factor on a major team was before the Eastern world had gotten into Dota 2 yet. It's also part of why he went to so many big tournies, they were easy picking to get into back then and since those days how many teams has he been kicked off?

He is a great caster and for the first year of the Dota beta being picked up for tournaments I personally would like to thank him for letting me hear Tobi fifty percent less due to him joining in casts. But he really seemed to not last long on teams, and there was no single team I can think of where he was the strongest player. Just the most well known, kind of like Sing Sing but for different reasons.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 19 2013 16:17 GMT
#48
On December 20 2013 01:04 Oakenshield wrote:
Just the most well known, kind of like Sing Sing but for different reasons.


Well Synd was letting his team down. The opposite can be said for Sing Sing in his Mouz/QPad team.
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
December 19 2013 16:19 GMT
#49
Are we not entertained? -gladiator doto best doto
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noulss
Profile Joined November 2012
France353 Posts
December 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#50
best of luck synderella
<3
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 17:05:03
December 19 2013 17:04 GMT
#51
On December 19 2013 21:24 jimmydu444 wrote:
The only statement that Tobi has ever said, to which I agree with, is that Synderen is "a four letter word that starts with S".


Tobi called Synderen a slut?

Just kidding, for reference. All the best Synd, you're a great caster. Loved your recent BTS castings, do much more please!
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 19 2013 17:13 GMT
#52
It's the right choice, he had an awesome career but he wasn't going to go anywhere with mouz
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
December 19 2013 17:50 GMT
#53
I really enjoy Synderen's casting, so I can't wait to see how far he can go with it!
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 19 2013 18:02 GMT
#54
#1 caster :D
not unexpected, definitely the right move
:)
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
December 19 2013 18:08 GMT
#55
after his TI3 performance where he single handedly doomed mouse with his picks/play i thought he would make that step earlier. but at least he is doing it now. his time ended long ago and now its for him to shine as a caster mb. i really enjoyed his co-castings and he should stick to that. anyway gl for his new way
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
December 19 2013 18:57 GMT
#56
I cant complain about seeing more of a good caster :D
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
December 19 2013 19:27 GMT
#57
Synd, it's too late... Tobi has moved on, he's with the Capitalist now you took too long.
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mouzChase
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany66 Posts
December 19 2013 20:39 GMT
#58
All the best to you Synderen, happy that you still stay with us
My opinion here does not reflect the views of my team / twitter @mouzChase / I <3 Scarlett
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 19 2013 20:51 GMT
#59
He's so personable, his casting has such humor, I want anything that gives him more time casting!
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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 21:17:49
December 19 2013 21:17 GMT
#60
Synderen always had strong analytical thinking but the mechanical shortcomings during gameplay would always hold him and his team back. Let's face it, he was pretty bad for a pro player. Moving full time into a casting role is the best decision he's made. He certainly has the game insight and he even has a good voice for it. I really enjoyed his casting before and I look forward to hearing even more of his casting in the future. The big thing that most of the mainstream casters currently lack is an actual deep understanding of the game. Too often I hear certain popular casters say just the most idiotic things or say things that are just dead wrong. Synderen is here to rectify this!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 19 2013 21:24 GMT
#61
I love his casting, good move for Synderen I hope he continues to do well where ever he's gonna end up.
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Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
December 19 2013 22:15 GMT
#62
On December 20 2013 06:17 wuhan_clan wrote:
Synderen always had strong analytical thinking but the mechanical shortcomings during gameplay would always hold him and his team back. Let's face it, he was pretty bad for a pro player. Moving full time into a casting role is the best decision he's made. He certainly has the game insight and he even has a good voice for it. I really enjoyed his casting before and I look forward to hearing even more of his casting in the future. The big thing that most of the mainstream casters currently lack is an actual deep understanding of the game. Too often I hear certain popular casters say just the most idiotic things or say things that are just dead wrong. Synderen is here to rectify this!


Yea the unknown Draskyl has no idea whats going on when casting .
Life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish flanders was dead. - Homer
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
December 19 2013 23:08 GMT
#63
Not entirely unexpected, he was a good player, but i think hell make an even better caster analyst

looking forward to seeing for of him in the future
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phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
December 19 2013 23:39 GMT
#64
Smart choice he focus where he is better.gl synderen.
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
December 20 2013 02:14 GMT
#65
He was really terrible as a player the last year or so... His skills as a caster are good though and he can improve as well.

Good move by him as he wouldn't contribute much in competitive.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
December 20 2013 03:22 GMT
#66
I have always thought Synderen as a reasonable professional player. He isn't going to be THE star of any team, but he does well enough to earn at least a roster spot in a 2nd tier pro team. There is a reason for him to be continuously present at major events. I would like to point out to many posters here that having an above-average to good journeyman career is terribly underrated.

I welcome the transition into casting, because apart from the occasional vocab issue, Synd is top-tier.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
December 20 2013 04:58 GMT
#67
Looking forward to hearing/seeing him more at events. Good luck.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
DaiWales
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom94 Posts
December 20 2013 08:09 GMT
#68
Jump before you're pushed, Synd. Best move for all concerned - he is a much better caster than a player.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 08:23:40
December 20 2013 08:21 GMT
#69
I've never seen Synd as the most high level analytical caster either way. I enjoy his casting because he sets a nice tone, it's not too relaxed and jokey, it's not overly serious or dull.

And I don't know about the whole Synd/jD thing. They seem to have had a bit of a falling out. Then again many people seem to have had a falling out with jD.

As for Synd's playing ability, I don't know if it really matters. He was a big part of some quite successful teams. We've seen many people (especially captains) who fans think play poorly go quite far. The problem always seems to be that his teams have a lot of internal issues, and I can't believe that's coincidence.
Once you Goblak...
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
December 20 2013 13:51 GMT
#70
Cast with Tobi and hopefully we wont have other people casting major events.
Bogeyman
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden307 Posts
December 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#71
Welcome to the 6th role Synderen!
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 23 2013 02:22 GMT
#72
hope to see him at TI4. The first games Dota 2 games I ever saw were him and Tobi casting TI2
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Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
December 23 2013 05:00 GMT
#73
Lazy scum who gave mouz second to last out of his self-imposed ignorance, good riddance, don't cast, leave the scene, I hope to never hear of you again.

"Let's not bootcamp, we'd be better if we don't practice or strategize at all."
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 23 2013 05:28 GMT
#74
On December 20 2013 17:21 teapoted wrote:
I've never seen Synd as the most high level analytical caster either way. I enjoy his casting because he sets a nice tone, it's not too relaxed and jokey, it's not overly serious or dull.

And I don't know about the whole Synd/jD thing. They seem to have had a bit of a falling out. Then again many people seem to have had a falling out with jD.

As for Synd's playing ability, I don't know if it really matters. He was a big part of some quite successful teams. We've seen many people (especially captains) who fans think play poorly go quite far. The problem always seems to be that his teams have a lot of internal issues, and I can't believe that's coincidence.

He played with tobi in one of his guild games the other week, they seem fine.
Mb79584
Profile Joined December 2013
United States164 Posts
December 24 2013 22:33 GMT
#75
He wasnt bad at any of his roles when he played he just wasnt ever outstanding and thats what teams look for. Oh well, he is however a better caster than player
Gordon117
Profile Joined December 2013
2 Posts
December 24 2013 22:52 GMT
#76
On December 23 2013 14:00 Beorning wrote:
Lazy scum who gave mouz second to last out of his self-imposed ignorance, good riddance, don't cast, leave the scene, I hope to never hear of you again.

"Let's not bootcamp, we'd be better if we don't practice or strategize at all."


No warning? No ban? The fuck?

You are an ass. Go away.

User was banned for this post.
energeticx
Profile Joined December 2013
25 Posts
January 01 2014 13:52 GMT
#77
yeah, quite looking forward to more casting by him!! But i agree with tadL that he needs another caster to make the best of it
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