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ForTehDarkseid
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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phantomlancer23
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I dont like the changes to LC brood huskar and tuskar i think they didnt deserve any buff. Also dont pick kotl if you are not going aga , omni s ulti 10 secs with aga pretty strong now. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Lots of aghs changes on heroes who should never have farm for an aggha. Sry kotl and omni, but that 4k has to come from somewhere. I think biggest change is ursa. Wisp ursa pretty fierce now. Ti4 = bear time Also, jakiro. This guy is always on the verge of being a stable competitive hero. Maybe now? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 26 2014 09:42 hacklebeast wrote: i am literally most excited about ice armor on buildings same | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:15 ahswtini wrote: The aghs changes just add a lot more versatility. It shouldn't make them any less viable if you weren't intending to build an aghs on them Yeah, but it also adds a lot of pub stars in my queue who skip wards and Mek and force | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Lich is generally just so hard to deal with already. At least I have more bans in CD. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:05 ahw wrote: Excited for Zeus buffs. The .2 second cast time is very good for him. The Melee range ground bolt is kind of neat but I think the cast time change will help more overall with his casting / vision problems. Lots of aghs changes on heroes who should never have farm for an aggha. Sry kotl and omni, but that 4k has to come from somewhere. I think biggest change is ursa. Wisp ursa pretty fierce now. Ti4 = bear time Also, jakiro. This guy is always on the verge of being a stable competitive hero. Maybe now? If Visage can rush an Aghs so can KotL | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
Yeah, isn't KotL basically the single easiest support in the game to farm with? | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On April 26 2014 21:56 eu.exodus wrote: I don't think you get why he was strong. TB was strong because of how easy it was too get kills with meta + reflection and snowball. Basically if he got in range to slow you died because that a 5 second slow meant unless you have a natural escape spell you just died. If you did to initiate om him, he would slow you for 5 seconds and escape for often than not. With the Nerf to reflection, you have to decide whether to skill images or slow after metamorphosis instead of just taking 1 point in reflect for all the benefits and killing potential. just think about laning against him with a support that has a decent stun. He slows you, you stun for 2 seconds. by the time the stun wears off, his slow would have worn off too. You can escape. also tb is a low hp, high armour hero that does well because of his ability to do dps early. Without armour he's basically just free money. Have a lane with good nuke/armour reduction. elder titan for example is really, REALLY good against him. Also, just buy a medallion and shit all over him. I've said it before in the qq thread that his slow was the most ridiculous thing about him because it's like a diff blade slow at lvl 1. Add that to meta damage and the guy is the most efficient early dps'er in the very early game in Dota. Take away his lockdown (which is basically how he closes the gap) in the early game and to me he just seems like any other agi carry. think of am maxing mana burn with 1 point in blink. Not very scary until he gets items. about 2 seconds (from any decent lane support) stun (even more if trilaned) plus 2.5 seconds of a very strong slow. thats still very easy kills especially with the ridiculous early damage he has with metamorphosis. and where did you get the idea from i had problems with the slow change i was just not satisfied with the strength gain nerf which like i said should have been replaced with a change of how metamorphosis works. and how dare you compare a terrorblade with a manaburn maxed AM or some other rightclicker. noone comes even close to the damage output terrorblade has with level 7-10 except mb an ursa who has an enemy that is perma stunned for 3 seconds but ursa is in general weaker AND melee so you cant compare them anyway. terroblade with meta 4 on level 7 without a single item has 150 damage plus 50 damage for each illusion thats 250 damage with 2 illusions....ON LEVEL 7 with ZERO items. 279 damage on level 8 still with no items. thats about 350 damage on level 10 with not a single item and with 550 range. but ye he is clearly like any other agi hero...oh wait a minute | ||
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
i bet you 2 are the highlight of a party | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
Also EG Knight strat comeback. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
Any thoughts on whether the TB nerf is sufficient to make him balanced? | ||
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absinthfee
Germany718 Posts
On April 27 2014 02:36 MotherOfRunes wrote: about 2 seconds (from any decent lane support) stun (even more if trilaned) plus 2.5 seconds of a very strong slow. thats still very easy kills especially with the ridiculous early damage he has with metamorphosis. and where did you get the idea from i had problems with the slow change i was just not satisfied with the strength gain nerf which like i said should have been replaced with a change of how metamorphosis works. and how dare you compare a terrorblade with a manaburn maxed AM or some other rightclicker. noone comes even close to the damage output terrorblade has with level 7-10 except mb an ursa who has an enemy that is perma stunned for 3 seconds but ursa is in general weaker AND melee so you cant compare them anyway. terroblade with meta 4 on level 7 without a single item has 150 damage plus 50 damage for each illusion thats 250 damage with 2 illusions....ON LEVEL 7 with ZERO items. 279 damage on level 8 still with no items. thats about 350 damage on level 10 with not a single item and with 550 range. but ye he is clearly like any other agi hero...oh wait a minute Should he be like any other agi hero? His actual lategame isn't that strong anyways. In my honest opinion his strength mostly came from his ridiculous early game (slow + meta). He was able to kill most offlaners with only one support, even when they have an escape spell. From there you can get an easy radi and skyrocketing in farm with super strong illus. Also his lategame was mostly powered by super strong splittpushing illusions. Both those issues have been nerfed pretty hard. I think he might even be a bit weak now, but only time will tell. | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On April 27 2014 01:05 ahw wrote: Excited for Zeus buffs. The .2 second cast time is very good for him. The Melee range ground bolt is kind of neat but I think the cast time change will help more overall with his casting / vision problems. Lots of aghs changes on heroes who should never have farm for an aggha. Sry kotl and omni, but that 4k has to come from somewhere. I think biggest change is ursa. Wisp ursa pretty fierce now. Ti4 = bear time Also, jakiro. This guy is always on the verge of being a stable competitive hero. Maybe now? ? farming with kotl takes no time. He can stack and farm the jungle and farm the lane super easily. If anything he's going to be the easiest support to get aghs on, maybe bar visage. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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