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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On April 26 2014 18:24 lolfail9001 wrote: because a lvl 11 terrorblade has no items and stays on 682 hp...Because he explodes from anything. With this you are forced to go stuff like point booster-pt to even pretend to have enough hp. Because 682 HP at lvl11 without items. He will fucking explode to 3 nukes. and armor scales off of HP, surprise, no HP, not that much effect from armor. Not to mention that actual stuff that was broken on him was reflection being ridiculous lvl1 spell even with shitty cast range and cast point. by that time you can have pt + drums +ulti orb or a point booster squeezed in like you said. now show me how 3 nukes can kill that before he can get his ulti off.the point booster may be a bit weaker start for him compared to others but skadi is so fucking good on him, who cares? while his survivability is a strong factor for the way the hero works, its not his problem as i said. it wouldnt be that bad if he would just not deal that ridiculous amounts of damage while he survives for a longer time period. i think the right way to nerf him would be to remove meta bonus damage from his basedamage and treat it like normal +damage so the illusions damage output would be reduced while he himself remains a strong rightclicker in the early game. also since he already has a good basedamage and normally only goes for stat items (except bkb damage wise and a late crit/mkb) his illusions would still deal a fair amount of damage sure this way he is easier to kill of course but not that easier as you think. except you can catch him solo all the time and cc chain him to death,yeah then u can get him with your 3 simple nukes and a few rightclicks. which is not the way dota works all the time since its a team game and not a terrorblade solo game | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
edit: Every hero I play got nerfed except AM and Kunkka. Great LOL. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On April 26 2014 13:43 TheYango wrote: The Agha change doesn't mean shit because even if you were going carry runner, you wouldn't get Agha. A hero with otherwise mediocre carry potential can't afford to use a major item slot on an item with such mediocre stats over a more impactful DPS item. Aghanim's Scepter Focus Fire damage reduction decreased from -50/-40/-30 to -30/-15/0, and no longer has special rules for procs how is having no damage reduction from ult + no proc restrictions on an item like the now fixed mjolnir not a significant damage boost. I'm thinking all you need to rek things is maelstrom > ags > mkb. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38220 Posts
On April 26 2014 18:13 KristofferAG wrote: I'm gonna play the shit out of Venge and KotL. lies you've not played the shit out of anything lately T_T come back to me kag. --- on a less important note. The patch is pretty cool I guess. | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
Keeper of the Light Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade: Provides permanent Spirit Form. Additionally, the following effects are active during the day: Keeper of the Light gains unobstructed vision and Illuminate heals allies for 75% of the damage values Gandalf too stronk. Aghanim's Scepter Chain Frost no longer has a bounce limit Icefraud, are you high? Aghanim's Scepter Laguna Blade damage goes through magic immunity AHAHAHAHA Lina every game now <3 Night Stalker Darkness now also affects the vision of buildings Time to batten down the hatches. Blur evasion chance increased from 20/25/30/40 to 20/30/40/50 Remember the Dota shittier digest with the unlucky Ursa? Yeah..... Heat Seeking Missile is no longer blocked by Ethereal Icefraud stop ruining the logical interactions of skills in this game about a greek god fighting Satan with help of Gandalf and a six-legged William Shakespear hero. When Vengeful Spirit is slain, her killer is inflicted with a negative Vengeance Aura, which decreases the damage of her killer and their nearby allies, until she revives FINALLY SOME VENGEANCE Town Portal Scroll Added an option to require a halt command to in order to cancel a Town Portal Scroll YESSSSS! Hundreds of TP scrolls down the drain, I finally no longer have to pretend I really wanted to take the scenic route to that T1 anyway. <3 Icefrog <3 | ||
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
On April 26 2014 19:48 BlitzerSC wrote: Dafuq mang, stop nerfing Naga Siren... edit: Every hero I play got nerfed except AM and Kunkka. Great LOL. Stop sticking to carry cores mate. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On April 26 2014 17:58 MotherOfRunes wrote: not true at all. terror isnt that reliant on his strength gain. he is reliant on his retardedly ridiculous armor . and with good positioning he is even less reliant on. meta isnt fine at all. the things he gets form it is way to retarded in the early game. with a proper lane support / team composition its just a WAY too strong damage output on a range hero in early levels. how does his strength gain matter that much (of course it matters a little bit) when u just get a bkb and then stand there with magic immunity and like over 15 base armor? manta bkb skadi is enough strength i would say I don't think you get why he was strong. TB was strong because of how easy it was too get kills with meta + reflection and snowball. Basically if he got in range to slow you died because that a 5 second slow meant unless you have a natural escape spell you just died. If you did to initiate om him, he would slow you for 5 seconds and escape for often than not. With the Nerf to reflection, you have to decide whether to skill images or slow after metamorphosis instead of just taking 1 point in reflect for all the benefits and killing potential. just think about laning against him with a support that has a decent stun. He slows you, you stun for 2 seconds. by the time the stun wears off, his slow would have worn off too. You can escape. also tb is a low hp, high armour hero that does well because of his ability to do dps early. Without armour he's basically just free money. Have a lane with good nuke/armour reduction. elder titan for example is really, REALLY good against him. Also, just buy a medallion and shit all over him. I've said it before in the qq thread that his slow was the most ridiculous thing about him because it's like a diff blade slow at lvl 1. Add that to meta damage and the guy is the most efficient early dps'er in the very early game in Dota. Take away his lockdown (which is basically how he closes the gap) in the early game and to me he just seems like any other agi carry. think of am maxing mana burn with 1 point in blink. Not very scary until he gets items. | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
superior moba got even more exciting again | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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weiliem
2071 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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VeryAverage
United States424 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2014 20:05 eu.exodus wrote: Aghanim's Scepter Focus Fire damage reduction decreased from -50/-40/-30 to -30/-15/0, and no longer has special rules for procs how is having no damage reduction from ult + no proc restrictions on an item like the now fixed mjolnir not a significant damage boost. I'm thinking all you need to rek things is maelstrom > ags > mkb. Because a carry runner doesn't win games off going carry items from the start, it wins games using items with higher midgame impact (usually Orchid or Meka) to get an item advantage, then using a farming item like Mjollnir to make the transition into big lategame damage items. By the time you're considering Agha, most of the other items competing with it have a larger impact than 30% damage during Focus Fire. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:51 bardtown wrote: Omniknight silencer tower siege. 7 seconds of complete immunity, 10 seconds physical immunity. Burn the tower, run away. If we're talking purely the effect duration, Refresher already did more than that for both heroes, and was already a legit lategame item choice for both heroes. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On April 26 2014 23:15 VeryAverage wrote: What do I have to do to convince people to let me farm as Necrolyte? Is there some sort of secret ritual? I just pick him early, to give the time for the team to pick other supports, and say that im not supporting. Then mute anyone who bitches. Honestly, why anyone would want necro as a support is beyond me. He is absolutely trash as a support. | ||
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