D3 Auction Houses close 3-18-2014 - Page 8
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 18 2013 15:49 TheRabidDeer wrote: They didnt? Requiring an internet connection and access to battle.net servers is not a promise for online play? I see this as no different than the RMAH. They promised the RMAH, and it was in the game. Losing the RMAH is no different than losing the server. They are both access to services. I dont see goods having value ever. Virtual items can be created on a whim, it would be like printing money. You also have the issue of potential dupes. I imagine there would be actual legal repercussions if you forged items or created items (if a blizz employee created one for example) with real value. Certainly something more harsh than a simple ban. they added a new contract term, they didnt take something away. if they said "you can keep RMAH, but you have to agree to an arbitration provision" that is a different question. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
Looking at it now (and the new interest), Diablo III may slowly be redeeming itself. Edit: Side note, after browsing the thread. Virtual items hold no real value outside of the game. There is no precedent which would force Blizzard to reimburse anyone. Also, as this is a license and other the EULA, "Blizzard may change, modify, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the Game at any time." This EULA abides by the current laws which allow it to be enforceable. P.s. phreak, if going to voice your opinion on the matter. Best avoid misrepresenting the situation when discussing entities like EULAs. | ||
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shirtman
178 Posts
Looting just isn't much fun. Do I even pick up that hellrack? Oh a stormshield with a good block rating. I might be able to sell it cheaply! I agree with Blizzard decision 100% if Loot 2.0 turns out good. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On September 18 2013 17:08 shirtman wrote: Currently, at a certain point of your gear quality, you are forced to use the auction house if you want to progress. Looting just isn't much fun. Do I even pick up that hellrack? Oh a stormshield with a good block rating. I might be able to sell it cheaply! I agree with Blizzard decision 100% if Loot 2.0 turns out good. Agreed--I remember back in Diablo 2 doing cow runs and being so happy watching a unique drop. In Diablo III, that feeling has been gone for quite some time. Now when I do runs, I hope for an item that I can sell so I may one day buy an item I need. Oh and I have a question for you. Do you by chance have your Diablo III Pc box with you? Just curious what it says on the box about the Auction House (I have the CE so mine is essentially blank). | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 18 2013 16:58 TOCHMY wrote: This might actually make me reinstall D3 and even maybe buy the expansion. Good stuff. Hope you learned your lesson BLIZ I think the only one who didn't learn their lesson here is you lol. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
Perhaps now I'll finally buy the game on March 18 2014, when it's gone. It must also be said that their reason for removing the AH is flakey. They claim that they want the best way to get items to be in game. But that runs counter to the fact that Diablo 2 was a trading game, and so is Diablo 3. What trading system will they replace the AH with. If trading is discourage, and farming in-game is encourage, as their reasoning suggests, then this game will be a mindless and tedious grind. It will not be fun, and hence it will not be worth playing. In fact, their reasoning implies that convenient trading is bad, and their argument could be used against any sufficiently convenient trading system. The ideal trading system is an improved trading post where people can choose to list what they have, what they want, or acceptable trades, similar to the trading post forums. Such a system would be a very successful way to trade and obtain items. But if they rule it out in favor of more grinding, then the game will be almost as pointless as it is now. If you're going to have a RMAH to prevent people visiting dodgy websites to buy items for real money, which is the primary reason people used to fanatically defend the RMAH, then Blizzard should also sell bots for real money, for exactly the same reason. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On September 18 2013 17:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I think the only one who didn't learn their lesson here is you lol. I don't quite understand what you mean. That I might buy the expansion even though D3 sucked? Please illuminate me. | ||
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resoLVer1.0
Russian Federation125 Posts
But no one will care about those haters when they'll find out that the best stuff is now sold on eBay, and no one needs the gold they've farmed. | ||
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shirtman
178 Posts
On September 18 2013 17:16 Nilrem wrote: Agreed--I remember back in Diablo 2 doing cow runs and being so happy watching a unique drop. In Diablo III, that feeling has been gone for quite some time. Now when I do runs, I hope for an item that I can sell so I may one day buy an item I need. Oh and I have a question for you. Do you by chance have your Diablo III Pc box with you? Just curious what it says on the box about the Auction House (I have the CE so mine is essentially blank). I have the digital version. Can someone else go check? Thanks. | ||
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woreyour
582 Posts
I think this is bad. So bad. What would be the next thing? go backwards? go to forums, hard to get by players and get scammed? Even with the billions of gold in AH and all that shitty prices, AH is still a good alternative. For solutions well we have loot 2.0 to wait and see. They can also implement some bound items shit OP items that are bound. Farming items only and shit. They must improve Arena PvP to keep people striving for better "PvP" to keep on farming and playing to kill each other inside arena. That is my vision of a better D3 expansion. Does not matter if you always get killed as long as you have people to kill. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On September 18 2013 03:17 masterbreti wrote: This is an awful decision by Blizzard. Why are they taking out the best part of the game just to appease a few people? It makes no sense to me. For me the AH was an easy way to earn a bit of gold and be able to get items i needed and would take months to farm on my own. Now Gold is worthless, everything i farm is too, and it'll take me months to farm a single gem because I don't sit around playing all day in order to be able to farm one efficiently. I won't be playing Diablo 3 anymore once this goes through. Waste of time now. play the console version drops are incredible making your whole post a red herring non starter with loot 2.0. I already found better stuff in 100 hours than I bought from 10s of billions of flipping let alone found in 1000 hrs of PC version. drops had to be bad to make AH wroth blizzards time and expense and decent profit. They made inapplicable and crappy items drop 99.99% of the time so you had to traffic in AH. Now you get INT items if you're a witch doctor and good ones too. I got a Homunculus - with 10 crit -20 dogs and 120-562 dam. Compare that to old one. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On September 18 2013 18:49 paralleluniverse wrote: I've been raging against the RMAH since the very first day it was announced and the only reason I have refused to buy Diablo 3 is because of the RMAH. Perhaps now I'll finally buy the game on March 18 2014, when it's gone. It must also be said that their reason for removing the AH is flakey. They claim that they want the best way to get items to be in game. But that runs counter to the fact that Diablo 2 was a trading game, and so is Diablo 3. What trading system will they replace the AH with. If trading is discourage, and farming in-game is encourage, as their reasoning suggests, then this game will be a mindless and tedious grind. It will not be fun, and hence it will not be worth playing. In fact, their reasoning implies that convenient trading is bad, and their argument could be used against any sufficiently convenient trading system. The ideal trading system is an improved trading post where people can choose to list what they have, what they want, or acceptable trades, similar to the trading post forums. Such a system would be a very successful way to trade and obtain items. But if they rule it out in favor of more grinding, then the game will be almost as pointless as it is now. If you're going to have a RMAH to prevent people visiting dodgy websites to buy items for real money, which is the primary reason people used to fanatically defend the RMAH, then Blizzard should also sell bots for real money, for exactly the same reason. I'm not sure the "everyone were trading in D2" sentiment is really accurate. Maybe your friends and D2 contacts traded, but would guess (have no data though) the vast majority of the D2 players did like me and only played it single player, or at most with their friends over LAN or so. A bit like it is tempting to think that all SC 2 play a lot of 1on1 if you are in high master, while the vast majority almost never touch 1on1. I flipped in D3 on the AH, but I have no intention of going to third party sites to continue trade, or spend in trade channels to bargain, and I think that the big majority of D3 players will not go to third party sites to trade when the AHs close. | ||
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resoLVer1.0
Russian Federation125 Posts
On September 18 2013 19:53 tdt wrote: play the console version drops are incredible making your whole post a red herring non starter with loot 2.0. I already found better stuff in 100 hours than I bought from 10s of billions of flipping let alone found in 1000 hrs of PC version. drops had to be bad to make AH wroth blizzards time and expense and decent profit. They made inapplicable and crappy items drop 99.99% of the time so you had to traffic in AH. Now you get INT items if you're a witch doctor and good ones too. I got a Homunculus - with 10 crit -20 dogs and 120-562 dam. Compare that to old one. If they will indeed make it possible to get all the best items from drops, then you will have nothing left to do in D3 after like 1 month of farming. And the only option I see to make this case possible - fixing the most of "useful" affixes on legendary loot and decreasing dramatically their value deviation, so the loot system become smth like WoW. Otherwise you will always find better items on 3rd party AHs. Just because your chance to find the best item in game will be 1/10mill. Blizzard can also introduce PvP stuff as "end-game" and rename the game to "World of Diablo". Though without monthly fee Blizzard will cease supporting it in like half of a year. | ||
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Noorgrin
Germany116 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On September 18 2013 20:37 Cascade wrote: I'm not sure the "everyone were trading in D2" sentiment is really accurate. Maybe your friends and D2 contacts traded, but would guess (have no data though) the vast majority of the D2 players did like me and only played it single player, or at most with their friends over LAN or so. A bit like it is tempting to think that all SC 2 play a lot of 1on1 if you are in high master, while the vast majority almost never touch 1on1. I flipped in D3 on the AH, but I have no intention of going to third party sites to continue trade, or spend in trade channels to bargain, and I think that the big majority of D3 players will not go to third party sites to trade when the AHs close. This is quite correct. The vast majority of playerbase never visited d2jsp. LAN for D2 was so big, this change to the AH can only be good for the majority of people and the game itself. It might mean there's gonna be more scamming around but whatever. | ||
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MasterCynical
505 Posts
loot 2.0 and no AH is the best new possible for Diablo 3. | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
On September 18 2013 03:17 masterbreti wrote: This is an awful decision by Blizzard. Why are they taking out the best part of the game just to appease a few people? It makes no sense to me. For me the AH was an easy way to earn a bit of gold and be able to get items i needed and would take months to farm on my own. Now Gold is worthless, everything i farm is too, and it'll take me months to farm a single gem because I don't sit around playing all day in order to be able to farm one efficiently. I won't be playing Diablo 3 anymore once this goes through. Waste of time now. Agreed. I can't believe they actually want us to kill monsters to get loot. Worst. Decision. Ever. I quit. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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