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Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 12 2013 01:19 GMT
#121
I'm playing on EU but this patch has robbed me of any motivation to play. This just shows whats wrong with D3. Its a fucking economy-simulation and no game!
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 12 2013 01:30 GMT
#122
On May 11 2013 11:31 JerKy wrote:
I have a friend who made ~2bill from this (relatively not that much)

he got an email saying the gold had been successfully rolled back, and that all his items were now all account-bound
However, he muled his gold to a second account, and that gold hasn't been taken back

I don't know if people who kept the gold on their account actually had their gold taken away, but if you muled your money to somewhere, you prob still have it :O


To follow up on this, my friend got this email:

+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings,

The Diablo III license associated with this email address was recently locked to allow us to investigate potential in-game economy abuse. After thorough review, we determined that this license was involved with the abuse in question. However, as a show of good faith, we will unlock this account and allow this license to continue to accessDiablo III.

In order to address the abuse, we have performed a rollback for the license, and all items are now account-bound and cannot be traded. For more information on Diablo III rollbacks, see the Account Rollback section of our support article: https://battle.net/support/article/5400056.

Regards,

Blizzard Entertainment


And he says he's maintained the gold he muled off, and knows others who've also kept their gold :O

Checking the AH last night... I don't know what to do. Gold is so worthless now and everything costs 2b
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 12 2013 03:44 GMT
#123
On May 12 2013 10:30 JerKy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 11:31 JerKy wrote:
I have a friend who made ~2bill from this (relatively not that much)

he got an email saying the gold had been successfully rolled back, and that all his items were now all account-bound
However, he muled his gold to a second account, and that gold hasn't been taken back

I don't know if people who kept the gold on their account actually had their gold taken away, but if you muled your money to somewhere, you prob still have it :O


To follow up on this, my friend got this email:

+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings,

The Diablo III license associated with this email address was recently locked to allow us to investigate potential in-game economy abuse. After thorough review, we determined that this license was involved with the abuse in question. However, as a show of good faith, we will unlock this account and allow this license to continue to accessDiablo III.

In order to address the abuse, we have performed a rollback for the license, and all items are now account-bound and cannot be traded. For more information on Diablo III rollbacks, see the Account Rollback section of our support article: https://battle.net/support/article/5400056.

Regards,

Blizzard Entertainment


And he says he's maintained the gold he muled off, and knows others who've also kept their gold :O

Checking the AH last night... I don't know what to do. Gold is so worthless now and everything costs 2b

Everything is expensive right now because people don't know what to price their items as there was no references when the AH reopened. Just wait a few days and prices will be back to normal. AKA people are panicking atm about what their items are worth.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
May 12 2013 06:47 GMT
#124
On May 12 2013 08:24 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 00:07 Burrfoot wrote:
This guy is happy!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I did a few calculations:

If a gold piece is as large as 1 euro cent, it would weigh ~5g, as gold is roughly double as dense as iron or copper, which is what those coins are made of.

Thus, if you own 1b gold pieces, that would weigh 50000000000g, or 5000 tons. This are ~250 m³ of gold, or a 5m*5m*10m brick made of pure gold.

This made me smile.

Following up, 1 ounce of pure gold is worth ~$1600 USD. (I didn't go look it up, but last I heard it was somewhere around that.)

5000 tons of gold = ~1.763b ounces of gold. Which would have a value of a bit over $2.8 trillion USD.
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
May 12 2013 11:48 GMT
#125
On May 11 2013 00:07 Burrfoot wrote:
This guy is happy!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This is so funny, sometimes I wish we had a like-function at TL.
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 13 2013 08:39 GMT
#126
On May 12 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 08:24 Simberto wrote:
On May 11 2013 00:07 Burrfoot wrote:
This guy is happy!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I did a few calculations:

If a gold piece is as large as 1 euro cent, it would weigh ~5g, as gold is roughly double as dense as iron or copper, which is what those coins are made of.

Thus, if you own 1b gold pieces, that would weigh 50000000000g, or 5000 tons. This are ~250 m³ of gold, or a 5m*5m*10m brick made of pure gold.

This made me smile.

Following up, 1 ounce of pure gold is worth ~$1600 USD. (I didn't go look it up, but last I heard it was somewhere around that.)

5000 tons of gold = ~1.763b ounces of gold. Which would have a value of a bit over $2.8 trillion USD.


I doubt the gold coins are "pure" gold, probably an alloy. Pure gold is malleable which wouldn't really work for coins
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
May 14 2013 13:59 GMT
#127
On May 13 2013 17:39 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
On May 12 2013 08:24 Simberto wrote:
On May 11 2013 00:07 Burrfoot wrote:
This guy is happy!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I did a few calculations:

If a gold piece is as large as 1 euro cent, it would weigh ~5g, as gold is roughly double as dense as iron or copper, which is what those coins are made of.

Thus, if you own 1b gold pieces, that would weigh 50000000000g, or 5000 tons. This are ~250 m³ of gold, or a 5m*5m*10m brick made of pure gold.

This made me smile.

Following up, 1 ounce of pure gold is worth ~$1600 USD. (I didn't go look it up, but last I heard it was somewhere around that.)

5000 tons of gold = ~1.763b ounces of gold. Which would have a value of a bit over $2.8 trillion USD.


I doubt the gold coins are "pure" gold, probably an alloy. Pure gold is malleable which wouldn't really work for coins


Further to this, €0.01 coins are made of steel with a copper plating, otherwise the metal in the coin would be worth more than its face value.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 15:01:42
May 14 2013 15:00 GMT
#128
Yes. I read that stuff on wikipedia too. However, Iron has density of ~8g/cm³, copper ~9 g/cm³. Afaik steel is basically iron with a bit of shit in it. Within the accuracy of my calculation that stuff is basically all the same. Gold is at 19 g/cm³. Since i have no idea how large an actual gold coin would be, i just did a rough estimate. Which also means that my result is not really exact. Especially considering that i just randomly pulled the smallest coin i have lying around and decided that a Diablo gold coin would be that large.

For example, looking up a random gold coin on Wikipedia, we get something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krugerrand

Which has 22 karat gold in it, meaning about 91.7%. It is also 6 times as a large as the one i randomly decided on.

I am in no way knowledgeable of gold coins or anything, but that 22 Karat number seems to be used on other coins i found roughly searching on wikipedia, too. There are probably a lot of other numbers, but i'd say this is as good as any as an estimate.

So basically, if your assumptions are so rough there is really no reason to go into the finer details, the whole idea was to come up with a very rough idea of how much 1 billion gold coins would actually be.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
May 18 2013 20:49 GMT
#129
On May 08 2013 21:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Is not so much that the market was ruined, its that so much gold was created and transferred to non-duper that played the market when the item AND gem market went crazy. Folks could sell any half decent item worth 100m last week for 2b yesterday.

For example
Legit player with 50m gold sees gem prices skyrocket to 150m
He sells the few radiants he has and buys 50m of flawless gems to make 3 radiants (takes a few minutes to automake)
They instantly sell for 150m/ea
He goes wow!
And repeats until AH goes down and he has billions.
Logs on today with no ban

^ this may or may not have been me


And.. this story has a happy ending. The roughly 9b I made was sold for ~$1600 USD :-D I was online the moment the AH went back up and was able to post it all for $0.25/m, and it sold pretty fast. I was worried the stories of folks banned for flipping gems would delay the sales, but nope. 9x + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
= win. Probably the last time I will ever sell gold too!

1929, this event was not! :-D
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
May 18 2013 23:19 GMT
#130
Nice, big congrats Burr! :D
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
May 18 2013 23:39 GMT
#131
On May 19 2013 05:49 Burrfoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 21:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Is not so much that the market was ruined, its that so much gold was created and transferred to non-duper that played the market when the item AND gem market went crazy. Folks could sell any half decent item worth 100m last week for 2b yesterday.

For example
Legit player with 50m gold sees gem prices skyrocket to 150m
He sells the few radiants he has and buys 50m of flawless gems to make 3 radiants (takes a few minutes to automake)
They instantly sell for 150m/ea
He goes wow!
And repeats until AH goes down and he has billions.
Logs on today with no ban

^ this may or may not have been me


And.. this story has a happy ending. The roughly 9b I made was sold for ~$1600 USD :-D I was online the moment the AH went back up and was able to post it all for $0.25/m, and it sold pretty fast. I was worried the stories of folks banned for flipping gems would delay the sales, but nope. 9x + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
= win. Probably the last time I will ever sell gold too!

1929, this event was not! :-D

You profited, but 9 people got raped buying $1b for $250 when in reality 1b is worth like 1/10 of that.
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Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
May 18 2013 23:45 GMT
#132
On May 19 2013 08:39 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 05:49 Burrfoot wrote:
On May 08 2013 21:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Is not so much that the market was ruined, its that so much gold was created and transferred to non-duper that played the market when the item AND gem market went crazy. Folks could sell any half decent item worth 100m last week for 2b yesterday.

For example
Legit player with 50m gold sees gem prices skyrocket to 150m
He sells the few radiants he has and buys 50m of flawless gems to make 3 radiants (takes a few minutes to automake)
They instantly sell for 150m/ea
He goes wow!
And repeats until AH goes down and he has billions.
Logs on today with no ban

^ this may or may not have been me


And.. this story has a happy ending. The roughly 9b I made was sold for ~$1600 USD :-D I was online the moment the AH went back up and was able to post it all for $0.25/m, and it sold pretty fast. I was worried the stories of folks banned for flipping gems would delay the sales, but nope. 9x + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
= win. Probably the last time I will ever sell gold too!

1929, this event was not! :-D

You profited, but 9 people got raped buying $1b for $250 when in reality 1b is worth like 1/10 of that.


yes, we should feel bad/sad for the people who can afford to spend 250 dollars on virtual goods in a game...
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 19 2013 01:50 GMT
#133
On May 14 2013 22:59 Serek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 17:39 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 12 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
On May 12 2013 08:24 Simberto wrote:
On May 11 2013 00:07 Burrfoot wrote:
This guy is happy!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I did a few calculations:

If a gold piece is as large as 1 euro cent, it would weigh ~5g, as gold is roughly double as dense as iron or copper, which is what those coins are made of.

Thus, if you own 1b gold pieces, that would weigh 50000000000g, or 5000 tons. This are ~250 m³ of gold, or a 5m*5m*10m brick made of pure gold.

This made me smile.

Following up, 1 ounce of pure gold is worth ~$1600 USD. (I didn't go look it up, but last I heard it was somewhere around that.)

5000 tons of gold = ~1.763b ounces of gold. Which would have a value of a bit over $2.8 trillion USD.


I doubt the gold coins are "pure" gold, probably an alloy. Pure gold is malleable which wouldn't really work for coins


Further to this, €0.01 coins are made of steel with a copper plating, otherwise the metal in the coin would be worth more than its face value.

The process to create them + materials costs mor than it's face value, lots of money has been burn to create those coins, thats why they want to remove 0,01 and 0,02 coins now
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
May 19 2013 02:59 GMT
#134
On May 19 2013 05:49 Burrfoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 21:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Is not so much that the market was ruined, its that so much gold was created and transferred to non-duper that played the market when the item AND gem market went crazy. Folks could sell any half decent item worth 100m last week for 2b yesterday.

For example
Legit player with 50m gold sees gem prices skyrocket to 150m
He sells the few radiants he has and buys 50m of flawless gems to make 3 radiants (takes a few minutes to automake)
They instantly sell for 150m/ea
He goes wow!
And repeats until AH goes down and he has billions.
Logs on today with no ban

^ this may or may not have been me


And.. this story has a happy ending. The roughly 9b I made was sold for ~$1600 USD :-D I was online the moment the AH went back up and was able to post it all for $0.25/m, and it sold pretty fast. I was worried the stories of folks banned for flipping gems would delay the sales, but nope. 9x + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
= win. Probably the last time I will ever sell gold too!

1929, this event was not! :-D

Good job burr, glad this game finally paid itself off for you. What country are you from?
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 19 2013 03:38 GMT
#135
that bbc link is about WoW... not D3
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
May 19 2013 07:18 GMT
#136
On May 19 2013 12:38 emythrel wrote:
that bbc link is about WoW... not D3

Diab-woe

Activision Blizzard has also hit money worries of a different kind this week.

An update to Diablo III on Monday contained several key updates - but one embarrassing bug.

Gamers quickly discovered that by cancelling "gold" auctions in the game, they could freely duplicate the in-game currency - with one user building up a reported 371 trillion gold using this method.

Developer Blizzard has closed the auction service on the game while it investigates.

The company said: "Our team is working hard to fix any outstanding issues and take appropriate actions with the accounts involved."
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
May 19 2013 07:59 GMT
#137
well thats nice, i saved up 50m but now it's worth like 5k now in terms of what it can buy me

ah well, GG WP D3 team.
North Korea is best Korea!
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
May 19 2013 12:11 GMT
#138
I was thinking to give this game second chance but hell no after this mess...
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
May 19 2013 16:37 GMT
#139
This is one of the most hilarious fiascoes I've seen in a video game. Makes me want to play again just to get that Diablo itch out of my system.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
May 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#140
On May 19 2013 11:59 Assault_1 wrote:Good job burr, glad this game finally paid itself off for you. What country are you from?


US obviously! I paid D3 off a long time ago, after they reverted me back to starter edition for not paying my WoW annual pass after 2 months!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
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