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On May 09 2013 22:00 redLeg wrote: For those of you wondering what exactly went down, there's a nice reddit post which I will shamelessly quote:
Man, that sound such a monumental fuckup, and so simple. Someones balls got broken over this at Blizzard hopefully.
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This seems a legitimate excuse to remove the AH, go for it blizz - and maybe it will save your expansion!
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On May 10 2013 01:21 Callynn wrote: This seems a legitimate excuse to remove the AH, go for it blizz - and maybe it will save your expansion! Or at least remove the RMAH so they can do rollback/reset, ladder seasons, etc...
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I'm glad that I don't play D3 anymore
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Am I the only one who actually thinks they made the right decision by not doing a rollback, and not that they did it for their own benefit?
I mean really guys, doing it for RMAH profit? The amount blizz made on RMAH in that one day is a drop in the ocean of their company and its reputation.
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On May 10 2013 23:56 Pokebunny wrote: Am I the only one who actually thinks they made the right decision by not doing a rollback, and not that they did it for their own benefit?
I mean really guys, doing it for RMAH profit? The amount blizz made on RMAH in that one day is a drop in the ocean of their company and its reputation.
They would have upset a lot of people who effectively played for a day for nothing sure, but now there is just so much dirty gold floating around the economy. There is no way they can trace all of it, and even if they could, it would only be punishing innocent people who somehow found it in their possession, be it from gem sales for example.
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On May 10 2013 23:56 Pokebunny wrote: Am I the only one who actually thinks they made the right decision by not doing a rollback, ... What would have been bad about a rollback?
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On May 10 2013 23:56 Pokebunny wrote: Am I the only one who actually thinks they made the right decision by not doing a rollback, and not that they did it for their own benefit? No, I agree. But then I don't play softcore, and I found the Witching Hour I always wanted on patch day.
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btw, SC was already broken june 1st 2012
there are no ladder resets and no losses of goods (items) when someone dies. SC is lame and boring.
I cannot understand people play this game seriously on SC and enjoy it xD
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I almost feel like they need to make a d4 just to make sure the diablo franchise doesn't end with all the horrific failures of d3. This game has failed from day 1 when people installed the game
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If Blizzard rolls the server back wouldn't they have to refund EVERY rmah purchase during the period of the roll back? Not only would Blizzard lose out on their profits from the rmah but wouldn't they also suffer the severe issue of reversing the transactions of real dollars $$$ between players! Any REAL money spent on items in the rmah would be lost if they didn't do that which would have real world consequences and probable law suits.
EG - say I spent $20 on items in the rmah during this crisis and blizzard decides to go ahead with a sever rollback. I would lose everything I purchased. How would I get my $20 back? Blizzard won't absorb those losses because of the all mighty dollar. And when enough players get pissed off that they were robbed of their money because of the server rollback you would get lawsuits against blizzard. Blizzard has been dealt an ugly hand and they are screwed no matter how they go about fixing this. They will choose the path that is the least expensive because when blizzard created the rmah they made a deal with the devil.
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It sounded like transactions during that time weren't fully approved and that people who made purchases saw their paypal accounts refunded. There is a 24 hour wait time for paypal and the RMAH.
It would have been easiest to just shut down the servers and do a rollback the moment they decided to shut down the AH, but it's way to late for that now, hopefully they can track down all the laundered gold.
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Even then, there's no way they can take gold from people who profited legitimately from emerald sales. They saw the economy was crashing and they took advantage of it. They haven't done anything wrong. That gold's going nowhere.
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On May 11 2013 02:29 Teliko wrote: Even then, there's no way they can take gold from people who profited legitimately from emerald sales. They saw the economy was crashing and they took advantage of it. They haven't done anything wrong. That gold's going nowhere. Why not? They can always reverse those transactions as well, just like any other transactions, unless the gold has been spent. Maybe something as simple as "if a transection is > 1M, reverse". Take away the gold, and give the players the emeralds back. Whether a rollback would have been an easier solution, I do not know. But both of these have their drawbacks.
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