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So it seems there are some crazy rich guys out there who can spend 7500 euro on a single diablo 3 item, item in question, an echoing fury with 1300 dps, 100% crit + socket.
Also taken from reddedit:
This Echoing Fury - http://i.imgur.com/vN3rr.png - was recently sniped from the RMAH for 250 euro, and is now going to the highest bidder on d2jsp.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65489160&f=191
It'll be interesting to see the finale sale on it.
If you're interested yourself in topping the price, apparantly the seller is bursel#2432 (http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/19410870)
Edit: bid is now on 7500 Euro.
Edit: The seller has gotten bids ranging from 3000 euro, 5000 euro, up to 7500 euro. He doesn't believe he'll get much higher than 7500 euro and is considering to sell it for that amount. What will he do with the money? "buy some more gear"
Edit: The guy who originally found the weapon and put it on the RMAH for 250 euro had rent to pay. I don't think he'll ever forget the mistake of not waiting if he hears how much its going to sell for. Hoooly shit, I feel like vomiting on behalf of this guy.
Edit: Rumor has it it was sold for 40 billion gold (12400 euro), though the buyer and the mods of his stream says it was bought for 7500 euro.
Another discussion thread here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/141ut0/that_echoing_fury_from_yesterday_it_sold_for_over/.
Final Edit: Guy who bought it is streaming here http://www.twitch.tv/hieven
I would never ever buy an item for such an amount but im seriously thinking of investing 250 euro and snipe items like this from the RMAH so I can sell them after for such an amount of euros. Guy who sold it must be the happiest man.
PS: Do you think it would be right for blizzard to perma ban his account for buying an item outside the RMAH? Because lots of jealous people out there say they will email blizzard about this to ban him.
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Was already posted in the whats your item worth, and general discussion thread 
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On December 03 2012 17:27 dartoo wrote:Was already posted in the whats your item worth, and general discussion thread
I couldnt find it. Also I believe this should be posted in Diablo 3 as a seperate thread since Whats ur item worth is an irrelevant thread to post this on. But ye, let the mods decide :/
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How does one complete a transaction like this ? Or even trade more than 2 billion gold ? :o
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This would not even make sense to me if D3 was one of the greatest games of all time and had PvP.
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holy shit that is one epic weapon 
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And it's not even level 63...
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That fear on hit is annoying tbh. Eh 7500 euro?.... Can someone please explain to me what the point of rmah is if the cap is at 250 euro and people still use 3rd party sites?
Also, pay2win pvp is inevitable - which is probably why they keep pushing the date of releasing pvp in d3 ahead all the time :D
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I don't get it..what does make this weapon so great?
The 0,25 attacks?
My barb wears a ~1320 dps, 448 str, 179 crit Skorn for 15m and just by the looks of it, I think it's better.
So I guess it must be the extra attacks?
edit: D'oh, it's 1-handed. Nevermind.
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On December 03 2012 21:02 Melwach wrote:
I don't get it..what does make this weapon so great?
The 0,25 attacks?
My barb wears a ~1320 dps, 448 str, 179 crit Skorn for 15m and just by the looks of it, I think it's better.
So I guess it must be the extra attacks?
It must be the fact that it is a 1H.
Anyway, dual wield is much better for sprint-WW and echoing fury is BiS since the bonus attacks per second applies to the offhand too.
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Zzzz what is wrong with this world..
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Just imagine how expensive pvp optimized gear will be sold for. Can't understand people that pay 20k dollar for an item that drops twice a year, just because it is godlike in pvp. But scary that an pvm item was sold for that much lol.
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I keep Blizz balance specifically to flip RMAH since many times there is a gap between AHs to take advantage if either way. Problem is it takes too muh time and the market value channels so fast that its pretty boring and lost the fun factor after so many months.
Kudos to the guy for recognizing under valued $250 listing. Usually those are complete garbage heh.
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Well, at least there's enough interest remaining in this game to warrant someone paying that much for an in-game item.
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On December 03 2012 21:02 Melwach wrote:
I don't get it..what does make this weapon so great?
The 0,25 attacks?
My barb wears a ~1320 dps, 448 str, 179 crit Skorn for 15m and just by the looks of it, I think it's better.
So I guess it must be the extra attacks?
edit: D'oh, it's 1-handed. Nevermind.
The thing is that the +0.25 applies to your other weapon aswell, so if you have a sword on your other hand your sword will be 1.65 instead of 1.4. I believe this is something a lot of people don't actually know, not to forget that it's a black weapon so all those % damage increases apply to it aswell(zunimassa boots 8% poison damage for example), making echo pretty much the best weapon in the game if you don't mind the fear proc.
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I just realized an indian family making 43 dollars a month could live 14,5 years of that item. How twisted is the world if you think about that?
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Well if it's your dream to become the best geared player in an almost dead game, I don't see why you wouldn't spend that money.
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On December 03 2012 23:12 intHoLda wrote:the guy is swiss. and he is probably richer than most people (even in switzerland). 7,5k is apparently not that much for him. and i think in total, he spent a lot more than the 7,5k. here is his profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hieven-2432/hero/7687734
trifecta ring and amu for his enchantress.... and dat gear with <10k killed elites... that guy must really have too much money to waste.
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actually this isnt that much. there have been far bigger amounts been paid for virtual gaming goods. i bet if diablo 3 hadnt lost like 90% of its playerbase already, this also would have gone way higher. still sick, but just saying ...
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^This is true.
In Entropia Universe people sell guns regularly for 15-20k $(some bullets that are consumable cost in hundreds $$$..)
It's still an absurd amount of money for most of us to pay for an item, but whoever bought it has enough and I guess he really likes Diablo 3. I wonder how much were the most expensive items in Diablo 2? I think I remember some windforce going for around ~2k.
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My brain is full of fuck...
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On December 04 2012 08:32 Andr3 wrote:
^This is true.
In Entropia Universe people sell guns regularly for 15-20k $(some bullets that are consumable cost in hundreds $$$..)
It's still an absurd amount of money for most of us to pay for an item, but whoever bought it has enough and I guess he really likes Diablo 3. I wonder how much were the most expensive items in Diablo 2? I think I remember some windforce going for around ~2k.
In my country, I've seen some ppl invested over 100k usd in the game easily.
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On December 04 2012 08:32 Andr3 wrote:
^This is true.
In Entropia Universe people sell guns regularly for 15-20k $(some bullets that are consumable cost in hundreds $$$..)
It's still an absurd amount of money for most of us to pay for an item, but whoever bought it has enough and I guess he really likes Diablo 3. I wonder how much were the most expensive items in Diablo 2? I think I remember some windforce going for around ~2k.
Speaking of that game, 330k$ http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701594/most-expensive-virtual-item-sells-for-330000/
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On December 04 2012 09:12 Jiiks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 08:32 Andr3 wrote:
^This is true.
In Entropia Universe people sell guns regularly for 15-20k $(some bullets that are consumable cost in hundreds $$$..)
It's still an absurd amount of money for most of us to pay for an item, but whoever bought it has enough and I guess he really likes Diablo 3. I wonder how much were the most expensive items in Diablo 2? I think I remember some windforce going for around ~2k. Speaking of that game, 330k$ http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701594/most-expensive-virtual-item-sells-for-330000/
wow reading up on that game makes me want to throw up
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On December 03 2012 23:12 intHoLda wrote:the guy is swiss. and he is probably richer than most people (even in switzerland). 7,5k is apparently not that much for him. and i think in total, he spent a lot more than the 7,5k. here is his profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hieven-2432/hero/7687734
Look at that fucking Scoundrel...
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I think I'm going to be sick... This is just nuts.
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On December 11 2012 00:41 kafkaesque wrote:Look at that fucking Scoundrel...
Has a better gear than my DH (yeah I'm poor but still...^^)
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On December 11 2012 01:22 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 00:41 kafkaesque wrote:On December 03 2012 23:12 intHoLda wrote:the guy is swiss. and he is probably richer than most people (even in switzerland). 7,5k is apparently not that much for him. and i think in total, he spent a lot more than the 7,5k. here is his profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hieven-2432/hero/7687734 Look at that fucking Scoundrel... Has a better gear than my DH (yeah I'm poor but still...^^)
LOL yeah some of that gear is better than my main dh :D The guy is nuts lol.
Wonder if makes a ton of money in d3, or just spends out of his pocket. Some fan site should interview him lol.
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Isn't the Fear on Echoing Fury an extreme detriment for WW Barbs? Why would you want the mob running about?
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On December 11 2012 02:36 kafkaesque wrote:
Isn't the Fear on Echoing Fury an extreme detriment for WW Barbs? Why would you want the mob running about?
with 600k+ dps in wotb mode, he will oneshot everything anyway. 
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On December 11 2012 02:47 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 02:36 kafkaesque wrote:
Isn't the Fear on Echoing Fury an extreme detriment for WW Barbs? Why would you want the mob running about? with 600k+ dps in wotb mode, he will oneshot everything anyway.
Not only that, but he could run just as fast, if not faster than most mobs even if they're feared (at least I believe so with his speed coefficients!).
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There's a fascinating comment made on that G4tv article:
plasticgiantcatbear
Anyone here that thinks buying a virtual vanity item is any different from buying a physical vanity item (ex. a piece of art) is stupid. Both can be destroyed, both have varying opinions of its aesthetic value, and both are essentially worthless in virtually every way.
Although its unnecessarily rude, he makes a good point. It seems ridiculous, but really is it any different than buying a great work of art? If the player thinks it has such value, if he really loves the game, I can see how they may be equivalent.
Also that space station the guy bought in the article can be seen more as an investment. That game, Entropia, apparently has its own economy where people can make money similar to Diablo 3. If you manage your space station right, then he could get a good return on investment. Besides that he loves the game. Why not?
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btw this guy who bought the echoing fury, Hieven, recently was listed on moldran's stream as the top donor of the week with a donation of 200€. someone who just donates 200€ to a streamer because he likes the stream must apparently be very rich.
to be honest, if I could spend 10000€ a month, I might consider buying such an "once a year" item as well. just because I can. also keep in mind that the item will retain most of its value over time. even if he decides to quit d3 in e.g. half a year, he could easily resell it for 4k or something around that.
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Even if I would be rich I would not waste so much money. A 100€ echoing fury out of the RMAH would not be so much worse. If the linked Wizard is his mainchar its just the perfect example of Pay2Win! This guy is probably only farming a little bit of MP0 - such a waste!
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On December 11 2012 05:09 Swish 41 wrote:
Even if I would be rich I would not waste so much money. A 100€ echoing fury out of the RMAH would not be so much worse. If the linked Wizard is his mainchar its just the perfect example of Pay2Win! This guy is probably only farming a little bit of MP0 - such a waste!
If he's got massive amounts of money lying around, why not? He apparently enjoys the game and doesn't have an issue with money. Might as well spend it on what you want. Sure to us who don't have millions laying around in some bank account we don't get it, but to him it's not shit.
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On December 04 2012 07:47 Black Gun wrote:trifecta ring and amu for his enchantress.... and dat gear with <10k killed elites... that guy must really have too much money to waste.
His companions are better geared then my character....
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Say you are rich and own a mere 5 million shares of ATVI because you like gaming. The annual dividend would pay you $900k or so. What is spending $250 on a few pieces of gear to you? Quadfecta on the follower? Sure!
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The Entropia Universe entered the Guinness World Records Book in both 2004 and 2008 for the most expensive virtual world objects ever sold,[2] and in 2009, a virtual space station, a popular destination, sold for $330,000.[3] This was then eclipsed in November 2010 when Jon Jacobs sold a virtual resort on Planet Calypso for $635,000; this property was sold in chunks, with the largest sold for $335,000
why do i hear of this game here for the first time?
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What I don't get is why this weapon considered good for barb when it has Fear on hit - annoying for melee and awesome for wiz/wd. I heard long time ago of "idiots" paying 5000 euro for some Lineage jewelry (~3 items) but 7500 for 1 item is beyond my understading. There is no PvP in D3 so that weapon so far gives nothing except owning mobs and you can own mobs with 50-100 euro worth of item.
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Because the + attacks per second on the weapon applies to both weapons if you are dual wielding.
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Yes I know how good is + 0.2 attacks for WW + Tornado (run like the wind) and it increases damage by adding more ticks to it but dat fear isn't made for WW barbs who want mobs stacked...
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I do not understand why anyone would pay these sums for that object.
Its illogical.
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On December 11 2012 10:04 Holy_AT wrote:
I do not understand why anyone would pay these sums for that object.
Its illogical.
So is buying a car for 100.000, whatever floats your boat. If you got it and REALLY love it, why not.
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That is awesome lol. Now lets just hope his weapon doesn't become obsolete after the pvp patch hits.
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On December 11 2012 08:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Say you are rich and own a mere 5 million shares of ATVI because you like gaming. The annual dividend would pay you $900k or so. What is spending $250 on a few pieces of gear to you? Quadfecta on the follower? Sure!
Wutt?? No way annual dividend is worth ~1/5 of the total share value lol. Company like ATVI only pay back a few 20-30 cents at most I believe. $900k is way too much man.
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On December 11 2012 12:09 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Say you are rich and own a mere 5 million shares of ATVI because you like gaming. The annual dividend would pay you $900k or so. What is spending $250 on a few pieces of gear to you? Quadfecta on the follower? Sure! Wutt?? No way annual dividend is worth ~1/5 of the total share value lol. Company like ATVI only pay back a few 20-30 cents at most I believe. $900k is way too much man.
He said 5 million shares... not $5 million in shares.
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IMO The guy just made that much cash off of selling items on the RMAH and so its just reinvesting what He won. Also, Did he pay in gold(40 billion IIRC)? So he probably already had a shit ton of that too...
Still Id probably spend that money on bitches, blow and booze.
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On December 11 2012 18:05 Douillos wrote:IMO The guy just made that much cash off of selling items on the RMAH and so its just reinvesting what He won. Also, Did he pay in gold(40 billion IIRC)? So he probably already had a shit ton of that too... Still Id probably spend that money on bitches, blow and booze.
His describtion says "Hieven doesn't have money, money has Hieven - thats all you need to know" I guess he got some cash.
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can't believe ppl will pay so much. im shocked Oo
i have a 1.14K one with 94% crit and .23 AS + socket... lol i wonder if i should sell it now :D
(obv a much lesser echoing, but still)
but never mind now... just WOW
tho if i had nothing else to spend my overflow of cash on (if i had it), i can see myself doing that... i think... maybe...
*edit: accurate stats
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Pay2win at its finest (against mobs anyway). Not gonna say anything else, cept the guy must be really passionate about the game as others have already pointed out.
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Actually I can totally understand this. While I don't have $20k to spend on a fucking digital sword, can you imagine how your perceptions would be different if you didn't have work or school?
That is, imagine everyday life as a Saudi oil prince or a trustfund kid or something. Infinite money, no responsibilities. You'd be bored all the time, and probably would get really sucked into a game. When we were all in our super heavy gaming phases (some may still be ofc), 5-10 hours a day isn't out of the ordinary at all. Then consider how expensive even something as simple as a WoW subscription is when compared to net monthly income.
For example, say you work at Caribou and make about $450 a paycheck or $900 a month. Your rent is probably around $500, food and gas another $300. That's only $100 discretionary income a month- more than 10% of that going to a game subscription. It didn't really matter tho, because it was such a huge chunk of your world, and other entertainment would be more expensive anyway.
So, if we consider the time/emotional attachment this guy probably has to the game vs. his income, it's probably cheaper for him to just buy every item than it is for the rest of us to even buy the game itself.
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On December 11 2012 09:46 Hazzyboy wrote:
What I don't get is why this weapon considered good for barb when it has Fear on hit - annoying for melee and awesome for wiz/wd. I heard long time ago of "idiots" paying 5000 euro for some Lineage jewelry (~3 items) but 7500 for 1 item is beyond my understading. There is no PvP in D3 so that weapon so far gives nothing except owning mobs and you can own mobs with 50-100 euro worth of item.
Echoing fury goes on your offhand, the fear doesnt proc when its on your offhand (due to tornados that is).
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On December 11 2012 09:46 Hazzyboy wrote:
What I don't get is why this weapon considered good for barb when it has Fear on hit - annoying for melee and awesome for wiz/wd. I heard long time ago of "idiots" paying 5000 euro for some Lineage jewelry (~3 items) but 7500 for 1 item is beyond my understading. There is no PvP in D3 so that weapon so far gives nothing except owning mobs and you can own mobs with 50-100 euro worth of item.
If you kill things fast enough, and/or move fast enough, the fear proc doesn't really matter.
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Why can't this weapon drop for me -_-
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I had played this game for about 300 hours and hadn't got any item that worth more than 100m.
but this guy just got one single item that worth 40billion by AH sniped.
Now i understand why some people called this game auction house 3 
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If you think this is crazy maybe you should look at poker. There's a book The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King about Andy Beal who gambled 10's of millions of dollars on poker as a hobby, same goes with Guy Laliberté but to a lesser extent online.
These people will sit down at tables where the blinds are $5000/10000 constantly reloading till they have won or lost millions. Just for fun.
So really, if you think some rich guy spending $7500 on something for pleasure is crazy, there is much bigger and crazier examples. Just because it would mean a shit load to people like me and many others, doesn't mean it matters in the slightest for some.
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On December 11 2012 12:09 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 08:19 Burrfoot wrote:
Say you are rich and own a mere 5 million shares of ATVI because you like gaming. The annual dividend would pay you $900k or so. What is spending $250 on a few pieces of gear to you? Quadfecta on the follower? Sure! Wutt?? No way annual dividend is worth ~1/5 of the total share value lol. Company like ATVI only pay back a few 20-30 cents at most I believe. $900k is way too much man.
Last year I owned some ATVI and the dividend was 18 cents per. Enough to pay for a few decades of WoW sub, but I was still too cheap to keep my annual pass valid lol -_-
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Like many others I don't understand how people can think it's insane or whatever to blow this amount of money on something you like. What about rich guys blowing 10000s of dollars in night clubs because it's fun? This is basically the same situation. The guy has the money to spare and spends it to derive pleasure. It doesn't matter if it's physical or virtual, as long as you enjoy it yourself.
For an african worker spending money on the game itself would seem illogical, so why is this any different? You have the money to spend.
On topic: Sick sick sick weapon. Would be a shame if it was nerfed in a future patch :D
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On December 11 2012 03:22 radscorpion9 wrote:There's a fascinating comment made on that G4tv article: Show nested quote +plasticgiantcatbear
Anyone here that thinks buying a virtual vanity item is any different from buying a physical vanity item (ex. a piece of art) is stupid. Both can be destroyed, both have varying opinions of its aesthetic value, and both are essentially worthless in virtually every way. Although its unnecessarily rude, he makes a good point. It seems ridiculous, but really is it any different than buying a great work of art? If the player thinks it has such value, if he really loves the game, I can see how they may be equivalent. Also that space station the guy bought in the article can be seen more as an investment. That game, Entropia, apparently has its own economy where people can make money similar to Diablo 3. If you manage your space station right, then he could get a good return on investment. Besides that he loves the game. Why not?
The difference is that a work of art will last - it also has thought, meaning and a lot more invested in it. Don;t get me wrong i am not an art fan but its clear that a piece of art has longetivity
In 10 years diablo 3 will be a memory.
Much like for most diablo 2 is.
That woudl be like paying several grand for a cs1.6 skin or a doom skin.
The conversation wouldnt be happening if people wernt emotionally attached and addicted to it.
Moreover most really valuable art ... the artist is dead ... ie no more will be appearing.
There is a good reason why artists are poor during life.
I get spending silly amounts of money. But its not like doing so needs defending.
But if you are buying a pieve of art its an investment ... buying an item in a copmuter game is a much much shorter term investment.
blowing 10k in a nightclub is probably going to get you laid.
Also as above ... patches? How many people invested in attack speed just to get everything nerfed?
You have NOT bought a thing ... games are very very different. TBH if blizz wiped all the data in all the servers ... you would have no comeback.
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On December 14 2012 04:18 MrTortoise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 03:22 radscorpion9 wrote:There's a fascinating comment made on that G4tv article: plasticgiantcatbear
Anyone here that thinks buying a virtual vanity item is any different from buying a physical vanity item (ex. a piece of art) is stupid. Both can be destroyed, both have varying opinions of its aesthetic value, and both are essentially worthless in virtually every way. Although its unnecessarily rude, he makes a good point. It seems ridiculous, but really is it any different than buying a great work of art? If the player thinks it has such value, if he really loves the game, I can see how they may be equivalent. Also that space station the guy bought in the article can be seen more as an investment. That game, Entropia, apparently has its own economy where people can make money similar to Diablo 3. If you manage your space station right, then he could get a good return on investment. Besides that he loves the game. Why not? The difference is that a work of art will last - it also has thought, meaning and a lot more invested in it. Don;t get me wrong i am not an art fan but its clear that a piece of art has longetivity In 10 years diablo 3 will be a memory. Much like for most diablo 2 is. That woudl be like paying several grand for a cs1.6 skin or a doom skin. The conversation wouldnt be happening if people wernt emotionally attached and addicted to it. Moreover most really valuable art ... the artist is dead ... ie no more will be appearing. There is a good reason why artists are poor during life. I get spending silly amounts of money. But its not like doing so needs defending. But if you are buying a pieve of art its an investment ... buying an item in a copmuter game is a much much shorter term investment. blowing 10k in a nightclub is probably going to get you laid. Also as above ... patches? How many people invested in attack speed just to get everything nerfed? You have NOT bought a thing ... games are very very different. TBH if blizz wiped all the data in all the servers ... you would have no comeback.
Cool story, it'll get you laid. You spent 10 grand for a few hours. This dude is spending 10 grand for probably a few hundred hours at least. Why are you trying to compare it to art? It's a much different scenario. It's like buying a car. Eventually it's gonna be outdated and useless, yet you still buy it. What happens if there's a fire, then your art is gone. What comeback do you have now? Anything and everything bought with money will "eventually be a memory." So why does it matter? You spend thousands to go on a vacation that turns into a memory a week later, why can't this guy spend it on a video game?
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Heh diablo 3 is already a memory for a lot of people. Of course, I bet an expansion will come out and people will pick it up because it promises a lot. I don't think any expansions will deliver though, not after the extreme expectations people had for Diablo 3.
Its a similar trend in video games. A breakout game creates a franchise. It then slowly becomes shittier or starts to cater to its hardcore fans or something, which makes the game worse and worse overall as sequels are pumped out.
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7500 is chump change to this guy, I don't see the issue. If I was mega rich and enjoyed diablo 3, I'd probably do the same.
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