The: What my item ended up being worth

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:20 GMT

As an occasional Ebay user, I always liked browsing thru the 'Completed items" tab to see what people have sold and for how much / when. So I figured I'd start one here. (Thought it was different enough from the other thread to make a new one)

Anyways, I guess rules are there should only be items you've actually FOUND (ie - not flipped).

I'll start!

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Rare Spear: 855 dps, 200 str, 85 vit, 63% crit, 3% Leech, Socket
Sold 9-15-2012 : 34m [ Original list price: 50m, relisted 3 times before sale ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:25 GMT

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
IK Boots
Sold 9-12-2012 : $45 [ Sold on 1st list ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:29 GMT

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Triumvirate
Sold 9-13-2012 : $25 [ Original list price: $30, relisted 1 time before sale ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:32 GMT

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Vile Ward
Sold 9-15-2012 : $50 [ Sold on 1st list ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:35 GMT

And the only other set I found... a while back

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Nat Chest
Sold 9-1-2012 : $15 [ Sold on 1st list ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 10:41 GMT

Last one I can remember... Yay warrior's Rest!

NA SC @ Act 1 (Patch 1.04)
Vile Ward
Sold 9-6-2012 : $50 [ Sold on 1st list ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 13:44 GMT

Uhh I realized I made a copy paste fail in the thread title.. If a mod can fix ;-/

Now that you can search your old old completed item history, I'll try an post some patch 1.01/2/3 stuff later.

Assault_1

Canada1950 Posts

September 17 2012 13:57 GMT

id be scared to take a screenshot when a legendary drops, it can sometimes cause the game to crash

Dotq

Norway235 Posts

September 17 2012 14:48 GMT

On September 17 2012 19:41 Burrfoot wrote:
Last one I can remember... Yay warrior's Rest!

NA SC @ Act 1 (Patch 1.04)
Vile Ward
Sold 9-6-2012 : $50 [ Sold on 1st list ]

ilvl 63 legendaries cant drop in act1.

Terranasaur

United States2085 Posts

September 17 2012 17:19 GMT

#10

So the point of this thread is just for you to brag about legendaries you've sold? Am I missing something?

caradoc

Canada3022 Posts

September 17 2012 17:38 GMT

#11

On September 17 2012 23:48 Dotq wrote:

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ilvl 63 legendaries cant drop in act1.

Why do you think that? Legendaries of a particular ilvl can drop anywhere any item of that ilvl can drop afaik. ilvl 63s can drop in A1, thus legendaries that are 63 can as well?

Or am I missing something?

Dotq

Norway235 Posts

September 17 2012 20:22 GMT

#12

On September 18 2012 02:38 caradoc wrote:

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You would think so, but its the same as with plans.

Unless the 50 or so people I have talked to with hundreds of paragon levels combined in act1 hardcore should somehow not find a 63 legendary after 3?weeks.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 17 2012 21:46 GMT

#13

On September 18 2012 02:19 Terranasaur wrote:
So the point of this thread is just for you to brag about legendaries you've sold? Am I missing something?

I guess if I'm the only one posting, then yes. It is bragging/stroking/etc. But this is the internets, and people are bored, amused, curious as to other's success/failures at the game of Diablo. I see all these negative posts about how terrible the game is and decided to post one of how a mediocre dps/geared player can at the very least, sell enough random crap to have enough Blizzard balance to buy the next D3 expansion or Starcraft xpack. I 'cashed out' a few times during my D3 time - pre-ias nerf, etc - and probably will soon again. This is just a list of the notable things I've found and sold. I did my share of flipping on items I decided to focus on (Nat's Mark, Black's Medal, etc) but feel free to add, contribute, of flame this thread. I am amused at some of the items I sold in the past that wouldn't be worth the salvage essense now. (like the rare shield) heh. And who can not love buying a set of mf+indestructible gear to break pots in Act 4?

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NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Stormshield
Sold 9-8-2012 : $6.66 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.04)
Hellcat Waistguard
Sold 8-26-2012 : $5.00 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Swords
Sold 8-11-2012 : $12/$25 [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Stormshield
Sold 8-6-2012 : $15.00 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Sword
Sold 7-30-2012 : $75 [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Axe
Sold 7-30-2012 : $30 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Source
Sold 7-30-2012 : $15.75 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Swords
Sold 7-18/19-2012 : $90/25 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Mace
Sold 7-12/19-2012 : $20 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Source
Sold 7-8-2012 : $15 [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Shoulders
Sold 7-7-2012 : $6 [ Sold on 4th list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Amulet
Sold 7-1-2012 : $8 [ Sold on 5th list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Rings (believe I bought Agile Seal)
Sold 7-1-2012 : $6/25 [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Sword (sold during one of my rage-quits)
Sold 6-28-2012 : $175 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Random stuff I don't remenber knowing how to price
Sold 6-25-2012 [ Sold on ~3rd list ]

NA SC @ Act 2 (Patch 1.03)
Rare Fist
Sold 6-24-2012 [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 1 or 2 (Patch 1.02)
Rare Ring
Sold 6-23-2012 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 1 or 2 (Patch 1.02/3)
String of Ears 17%
Sold 6-22-2012 $18 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act ? - FLIP Bought on AH; but in 1.04 land, this fist wouldn't sell for 75k gold
Rare Fist
Sold 6-20-2012 $150 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 1 or 2 (Patch 1.02)
Rare Ring
Sold 6-18-2012 $20 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 1 or 2 (Patch 1.02)
Rare Shield
Sold 6-17-2012 $5 [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 4 Pots! (Patch 1.02)
Rare Maces
Sold 6-14-2012 $170/20 [ Sold on 1st list ]

This was what the mace looked like BEFORE 1.03 (it was what pushed me through Inferno pre-nerf)

NA SC @ Act 1/2/3/4 (Patch 1.02)
Rare Amulet
Sold 6-14-2012 $15 [ Sold on 3rd list ]

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 20 2012 18:52 GMT

#14

Since I've gotten a few PMs on if its better to sell directly on RMAH or selling on gold AH then RMAHing the gold, I put together this mini guide/chart to determine if you feel your item is worth more than $250, and feel the need to sell on the gold AH instead.

This obviously depends on the current gold rate, so this is a simple chart on how much gold you'd need to sell the item for to be equivalent to just selling it for $250 on the RMAH. This assumes you just take the gold and sell it on the RMAH vs using the gold capital to flip high end items or whatnot.

Rate / Equivalent gold auction sold requirement
$2.00 per m = 177,857,143 gold
$1.90 per m = 187,218,045 gold
$1.80 per m = 197,619,048 gold
$1.70 per m = 209,243,697 gold
$1.60 per m = 222,321,429 gold
$1.50 per m = 237,142,857 gold
$1.40 per m = 254,081,633 gold
$1.30 per m = 273,626,374 gold
$1.20 per m = 296,428,571 gold
$1.10 per m = 323,376,623 gold
$1.00 per m = 355,714,286 gold
$0.95 per m = 374,436,090 gold
$0.90 per m = 395,238,095 gold
$0.85 per m = 418,487,395 gold
$0.80 per m = 444,642,857 gold
$0.75 per m = 474,285,714 gold
$0.70 per m = 508,163,265 gold
$0.65 per m = 547,252,747 gold
$0.60 per m = 592,857,143 gold
$0.55 per m = 646,753,247 gold
$0.50 per m = 711,428,571 gold
$0.45 per m = 790,476,190 gold
$0.40 per m = 889,285,714 gold
$0.35 per m = 1,016,326,531 gold
$0.30 per m = 1,185,714,286 gold
$0.25 per m = 1,422,857,143 gold

So last I checked this morning 9-20-2012, gold was selling for ~$1.13 m so uber item X would have to sell for >315m gold to come out ahead of just selling it for $250.

Usagi

Spain1647 Posts

September 20 2012 19:22 GMT

#15

Is there no cut for blizzard in the sales of gold?

indigoawareness

Slovakia273 Posts

September 20 2012 23:23 GMT

#16

I like this post.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 20 2012 23:56 GMT

#17

Gold AH there is a fee for each successful auction, already calculated in the chart. For those wanting to just get Blizz Balance instead of Paypal, the gold equivalent is ~3% lower, so not much different.

But to get this back on topic... sort of... pretty much every ring I've found since 1.04 has ended up being the Wedding Band. Not a great ring, but consistently sells for a few bucks, so it was a shock to find this, and even with a partial Monk roll to boot. Unfortunately it rolled str, so I didn't think it would sell easily... and true to form, no one wanted it for a few M. So after a few re-lists I went to check the RMAH and there were even less rings there, but the lowest was around $50, so I priced mine at half that and.. it sold. So for not too searched for items, if you have time, check both AHs when undercutting. :-) There is usually a delta in value and people might just impulse buy.. if they see a 1d12hr! ;-D

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 21 2012 12:01 GMT

#18

Finally, a good Monk weapon dropped for me in 1.04! (bad Won Kims don't count!). Of course no socket, but it sold instantly for $29.99. Would have been an upgrade technically, but the fists looks absolutely TERRIBLE! After reading the 1.05 PTR notes, sets will drop probably at the same rate as Legendaries... so better to sell now! In fact, I think every patch is a time to sell!

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04)
Shenlong Relentless Assault
Sold 9-20-2012 : $30

Gowa

France133 Posts

September 25 2012 04:43 GMT

#19

well
fuck a doodle doo

Samba

Germany452 Posts

September 25 2012 08:10 GMT

#20

Probably noob-question, but: Are you running some kind of program that´s showing you the drop in game or did you just edit these screenshots?
Haven´t found a single set-item in roughly 400h playtime and best i´ve ever sold was a babarian- legendary amulet that sold for 20 mio...fml
But i´m now at 300% MF running act3, so i´m REALLY hoping to change that.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 25 2012 11:00 GMT

#21

Just editied the screenshots, I play in Windowed mode, so I use a windows program to take the screenshot. As for drops, at least they are increasing the class specific drops (hopefully that means sets) so

But with every patch, that usually means the AH gets frozen, so figured I'd post some crap of what I've sold post PTR. Since everything is getting more affordable, I decided to just pickup a few peices for my monk.

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NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / Rare Amulet - Str/cc/ias / Sold 9-25-2012 : 9m [ Sold on 5th list ]

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / Rare Shoulders - GF / Sold 9-25-2012 : 2m [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / 8th wedding band... / Sold 9-25-2012 : 2m [ Sold on 1st list ]

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / int/move boots / Sold 9-25-2012 : 5m [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / Rare Sword str/int/loh/socket / Sold 9-25-2012 : 5.5m [ Sold on 2nd list ]

NA SC @ Act 3 (Patch 1.04) / Lacuni / Sold 9-25-2012 : 7 m [ Sold on 3rd list ]

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

September 25 2012 14:12 GMT

#22

On September 18 2012 05:22 Dotq wrote:

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Yes they can drop in Act I, don't be silly:

Inferno - Act I
iLvl 61: 17.7%
iLvl 62: 7.9%
iLvl 63: 2.0%

Inferno - Act II
iLvl 61: 18.6%
iLvl 62: 12.4%
iLvl 63: 4.1%

Inferno - Act III and Act IV
iLvl 61: 24.1%
iLvl 62: 16.1%
iLvl 63: 8.0%

Added in patch 1.03
Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6457499

edit: And not finding an ilvl63 legendary in act I in three weeks is evidence enough for you? Are you shitting me lol? The chances of a drop being legendary is something along the lines of 0.022% for Elites and 0.0018% for Normal mobs, now multiply those numbers with 0.02% for it to be an ilvl63 and you get a whopping 0.00044% droprate per Elite and 0.000036% per normal mob, meaning you'd have to kill about 2272 Elites and 27778 normals for one ilvl63 legendary to drop on average, who knows what you're luck is like... (even with a ton of MF you'll still have a lot to do :s)

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 28 2012 10:33 GMT

#23

All the drop rate arguments will be moot again since 1.05 will let everything drop in every act MP1+ (I was just on the PTR in act 1 and got a grand-exalted plan off the 1st pack). With the doubling of Legendary/Set drop rates, and buff to all the rares, items will be very easily available. But it's not like every rare will roll max stats, its that they have the chance to roll up to max stats much like you see shitty ilvl 63 rares now. It's just essentially every drop will now have a chance to be 'good'.

But back on topic. I've been farming a lot less lately (PTR, AH dying, nothing worth upgrading atm) but did pickup a Stormcrow off Cy last night that I sold immediately.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

September 29 2012 14:01 GMT

#24

So I found this fairly unremarkable Tasker & Theo the other day and didn't salvage it immediately since it had MF, but didn't bother to list it until I had a free spot and someone decided it was worth $5. Really. a rare pair of gloves with any of the 3 higher dps stats and slightly lower vit is available for a few hundred k on the gold AH. I guess there is something about legendary and an open socket on a pair of gloves I must be missing.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

October 19 2012 13:29 GMT

#25

Since I havent update this thread in a while, mostly due to lack of note-worthy sales (I guess 4 Skorns for $12 total counts as something?); I am bored at work and decided to calculate how much the drop rates have improved across the market and predict a relative value to 1.04. With gem prices plummeting due to either duping or inventory, I see a small surge in some rare prices, but a pretty marked decline in legendary and sets. Any item with random rolls related to crit usually carry a high markup still but should drop soon.

Assumptions
The MP equivalence of 1.04 Act 3 = 1.05 MP2, 1.04 Act 2 = 1.05 MP1, 1.04 Act 1 = 1.05 MP0 Act 3 as far as difficulty, mob HP, general clear times for the same character.
Multipliers used to determine increased rate of clear times: MP2 = 2.25x HP, MP1 = 1.5x HP
Rares per Hour / Leg per Hour / % of farmers arbitrarily picked - its the relative changes that matter more.
1.05 MP0 Act 3 is the new "easiest" location to farm for items, and that all 1.04 farmers will *at least* be farming Act 3 MP0.

Fuzzy Math
Literally, I copy pasted excel into an image.
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Results
Useable Rares will be ~16x more available and should drop ~16x in price.
Useable Weapons will be ~2.9x more available and should drop ~2.9x in price.
ilvl 63 Legendaries will be ~5.4x more available and should drop ~5.4x in price.

Notes: Well-rolled ilvl 63 affix jewelery will command whatever price the market will bear as they didn't exist in 1.04. ilvl 63 random affixes on legendaries will also be marked up accordingly.

alQahira

United States511 Posts

October 19 2012 18:44 GMT

#26

You're totally neglecting the demand side of the equation so you are way overestimating the degree of price drops.

Think of an economy of 100 people, with just one thing they want to buy. Let's say 1 person has $100, 9 people have $50, 10 have $30 and the rest have $10. Then assume there are two goods in the economy, one that has high quantities and a stable price at $1. Then there is another good that is very rare, and the current market price is $90, so only the rich guy can buy it. Now let's say you introduce 15 more the expensive good. The rich guy doesn't need another, but first the 9 people with $50 will buy it at 50, leaving 6 for the people with $30 to fight over. Some will think it is worth $30, some may not, and so the equilibrium price will end right around $30.

As you can see, the final price of a good depends on the interaction between distribution of wealth, and demand, not just the supply. Anyway, that was probably needlessly complicated, but hopefully it gets the point across. As the price falls, things start being in the price range of people that couldn't think about affording it before, increasing demand and providing some price stability.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

October 20 2012 22:10 GMT

#27

Ya, I just threw demand into the ~ since it's impossible to really guess. I just know what items I had my beady eyes on since 1.04 preview and finally decided to spend a few M on that Shenlong Set to shoot some Hadokens along with my fireballs, even though I know next week the same fists will be cheaper, or I could have bought one with a socket for a reasonable price, etc.

But so far, the price of "good enough" legendaries/sets has been more than 5x drop in price, the 'well rolled' ones are up there as expected. But rares just don't sell. I relist at 50% previous list every 6 hours or so and they still don't sell.. so the 16x drop looks ok so far!

Sophia

Germany115 Posts

October 20 2012 22:57 GMT

#28

Seriously Americans are either totally retarded or have way too much money. On EU that would not work at all.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

October 21 2012 17:39 GMT

#29

There is still a pretty large disparity between the min-buyout-price on the RMAH vs GAH on the US you can take advantage of, problem is stuff is so cheap now the fees kind of kill everything.

Burrfoot

United States1176 Posts

October 28 2012 13:59 GMT

#30

Cashed out after farming the higher MPs for Hellfire. Nothing really of note to mention (Skull grasps, bunch of mediocre set items for a few bucks, some gold) but this was how much I sold one of my set fists for. Stuff is reaching the point where "good enough" set items aren't worth selling on the AH to overcome even the $1 fee. 'Good items' will still always sell though.

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