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So I think this is a good discussion, and I'm shocket there isn't a topic about it. What do you guys think about leveling up artisans, especially the blacksmith ? My input is that it may not be worth not even on the higher levels unless you first drop a legendary or set recipe (and it will probably sell only because of the color).
For instance I have a blacksmith in the 4th level and droped this recipe http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/exalted-sovereign-mail it had a lower armor than most cheap armors on the ah and it gives me 4 random stats for 51k gold, with the same ammount of gold I can probably buy gear with way better stats unless we are talking about resistances or some other rare stat I don't remember armors can have, and this is a tiny chance compared to a mounstrous chance of completely useless stats.
So what do you think about it ? Share your experiences with crafting, was it worth or not ?
PS: sorry for bad grammar english isnt my main language
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For me it has worked out very well. If you want to avoid the auction house but get gear at your level, it works out. But is a big money sink.
If you've noticed, drops from monsters are almost always below level by about 5 levels or more. Atleast from my time playing (only in nightmare currently but yeah), I've never got an item that was roundabout the level I was, and buying something from the auction house didnt really seem like fun. But through crafting I got reasonably good stuff...but you also get a lot of duds at times. Most of the time though, one good item from the auction house gets you through the whole act, because nothing else good drops(comparatively).
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On May 31 2012 21:51 dartoo wrote:
For me it has worked out very well. If you want to avoid the auction house but get gear at your level, it works out. But is a big money sink.
If you've noticed, drops from monsters are almost always below level by about 5 levels or more. Atleast from my time playing (only in nightmare currently but yeah), I've never got an item that was roundabout the level I was, and buying something from the auction house didnt really seem like fun. But through crafting I got reasonably good stuff...but you also get a lot of duds at times. Most of the time though, one good item from the auction house gets you through the whole act, because nothing else good drops(comparatively).
Well that doesnt apply to inferno 
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I stoped leveling blacksmith mid-Nightmare.
I think it's not worth it at all. You get better gear in AH for 5k-10k gold.
At least currently it's better to buy from AH, maybe later when prices for items get figured out and you won't find cheap deals, but currently your better off saving gold. (Pro Tip: for lower levels search for "Lower Level Requirement")
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United States47024 Posts
Answered before.
It's profitable if you get one of the really rare recipes that are high demand on AH (e.g. uniques/set items or the 5- or 6-property level 60 rares). For common stuff like the recipes you automatically get from leveling up, it's not worth it.
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ops indeed I just read the first page of topics :S
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I saw a stream with someone in act 1/2 inferno and he had like 3 or 4 crafted items and doing well. Crafting might not get you through the game all the way through inferno but if you get the right plans and such and spend some money on it, it can certainly be helpful.
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It depends, as much of the rest of the item system (aside from AH) on luck. If you, lets say, find a recipe with 6 randoms and get lucky, it can save you 20 million from the AH, still it is unlikely. In my opinion, it can be a great money safer and a great money sink, just depending on how lucky you get with rolling the crafts.
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Weapons? Never, they suck, always. Why? Because the base weapon your crafting sucks, they usually have ~20% lower base dps than the best rare drop weapons available. I realized that after I had crafted ~15m away T.T.
Armor, maybe, but don't think so. Perhaps gloves and try to be lucky with good AS% + primary + crit dmg modifiers or something but can't see any other slow being worth it. Maybe shoulders as well because legendary shoulders seem all awful, but at other slots there's always a leg/set item that has affix (IE AS%) that isn't available in rares, making them always better.
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IMO it's not worth it. As someone said in this thread, it's better the AH.
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I've made a little off of some of the rare recipes (6mod gloves and a 6mod dagger), I charge mats + a crafting fee, would never craft things on my own because the gold cost is way to high vs your odds.
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everyone i know who crafts a bunch @ lv 60 with a few recipes are down gold from crafting.
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Im not going to worry about crafting til i have lots of gold. Like 20 million plus.
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Canada9720 Posts
i started out crafting, but the randomness really sucks. you end up dumping way too much money in it if you get unlucky.
it seems like blizzard is going to patch forging, though, since they probably want it to be a viable alternative to the AH
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I also stopped crafting mid-nightmare. Mainly because the gold cost for each craft is unreasonably high and keeps getting higher. I'd like it to be viable, I don't enjoy trawling the AH that much but that seems to be the only viable way to get inferno gear.
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It doesn't seem very viable right now. As previously stated in this thread, it simply costs too much. You could buy the item you want from the AH straight up, or roll 10 rares with the same money with a minimal chance of getting the one you want.
I'm still farming materials though since they will probably buff crafting at some point.
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You guys do realize that the armor/dps is only a base. The armor/dps that is shown by the blacksmith is the absolute lowest you can get. I made a pair of Exalted sovereign gloves that have a base of around 230 and it turned out to be 380 armor with all resist, vitality, strength and 5 yards on pickup. Sometimes you get sockets, magic find and massive amounts of one stat.
I'm in inferno act 2, doing fairly well with 2 pieces of crafted armor. Gloves and chest. All my other gear is basically equivalent to them as far as stats go.
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I think that crafting THoC is going to be profitable in the long run, but the variance makes it so that... it's really risky if you cannot fund it properly.
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On May 31 2012 21:53 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 21:51 dartoo wrote:
For me it has worked out very well. If you want to avoid the auction house but get gear at your level, it works out. But is a big money sink.
If you've noticed, drops from monsters are almost always below level by about 5 levels or more. Atleast from my time playing (only in nightmare currently but yeah), I've never got an item that was roundabout the level I was, and buying something from the auction house didnt really seem like fun. But through crafting I got reasonably good stuff...but you also get a lot of duds at times. Most of the time though, one good item from the auction house gets you through the whole act, because nothing else good drops(comparatively). Well that doesnt apply to inferno
Yeah it does. I'm still seeing level 51 items dropping in act 2 inferno.
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