• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:11
CEST 06:11
KST 13:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9276 users

Is it Worth to craft in Diablo 3 ? - Page 2

Forum Index > Diablo 3
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
May 31 2012 19:01 GMT
#21
On June 01 2012 03:55 Duskbane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 21:53 noD wrote:
On May 31 2012 21:51 dartoo wrote:
For me it has worked out very well. If you want to avoid the auction house but get gear at your level, it works out. But is a big money sink.

If you've noticed, drops from monsters are almost always below level by about 5 levels or more. Atleast from my time playing (only in nightmare currently but yeah), I've never got an item that was roundabout the level I was, and buying something from the auction house didnt really seem like fun. But through crafting I got reasonably good stuff...but you also get a lot of duds at times. Most of the time though, one good item from the auction house gets you through the whole act, because nothing else good drops(comparatively).


Well that doesnt apply to inferno


Yeah it does. I'm still seeing level 51 items dropping in act 2 inferno.


Read again and understand that it doesn't apply to inferno because you CAN get level 60 items and you have to be level 60 (no higher or lower) to be in inferno.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 00:27:04
May 31 2012 22:14 GMT
#22
Yes, I miss rune words too.

I don't miss the high level rune words--those can suck a male chicken--I miss the low level rune words that help you out during the puberty stages of lvling up a character. That 40ish (in D3) and 60ish (in D2) where you really want to have the "good stuff" already, but you need to sow your oats on something cool and fancy--though not necessarily powerful.

With just the right proc chances, or just the right stats on just too low level an item. Or has all the stats you need except the 1-2 relevant ones. Rune words that were "almost" good enough for end game play--but you knew that once the good stuff came along you'd replace it.

I miss those crafter items.

I don't need stuff that's as good as end game stuff--I want stuff a notch or two down from best in slot that costs as much to make as it costs to buy in the AH.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 22:16 GMT
#23
On June 01 2012 07:14 lorkac wrote:
Yes, I miss rune words too.

I don't miss the high level rune words--those can suck a male chicken--I miss the low level rune words that help you out during the puberty stages of lvling up a character. That 40ish (in D3) and 60ish (in D2) where you really want to have the "good stuff" already, but you need to sow your oats on something cool and fancy--though not necessarily powerful.

With just the right proc chances, or just the right stats on just too low level an item. Or has all the stats you need except the 1-2 relevant ones. Rune words that were "almost" good enough for end game play--but you knew that once the good stuff came along you'd replace it.

I miss those crafter items.

I don't need stuff that's as good as end game stuff--I want stuff a notch or two down from best in slot that costs as much to make as it costs to buy in the AH.

Their intent with crafting was to accomplish what runewords did in D2 in a little more streamlined way. The problem is that a) the opportunity cost of salvaging blues that could be vendored or AHed is too high, and b) the randomness makes it unreliable to get your own gear from it.
Moderator
ralffriend
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany112 Posts
May 31 2012 22:24 GMT
#24
I didn´t upgrade the artisan until i was at inferno and the cost didn´t "hurt" so much cause you could farm way better than in the stages before. But if you reach the cap the artisan is the cheapest way to get good items. All the lvl 60 items at the Ah cost me about >1mil while the artisan´s costs are below 50k each time.

Of course using the artisan has always a luck-factor but the minor chance to get an awesome item is higher than get a good drop or farm money for the AH.

The only problem i have right now is that i can´t buy the mats for crafting and if i have to produce them it doesn´t pay of anymore(at least in my opinion).
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
May 31 2012 22:36 GMT
#25
Sell your 5-6 mod recipes. You're guaranteed money. Safer profit margins.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
May 31 2012 22:47 GMT
#26
If i could start all over again i would just vendor everything and not spend a dime on BS i would have so much more money and buy better gear from AH.
Delvin
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland141 Posts
May 31 2012 22:58 GMT
#27
I think mass high-level crafting isn't going to be worth it for one simple reason.

Crafted items are not the highest tier versions of the items - the highest tier drops have higher base armor/dmg values and I think higher possible stats as well.

Weapons in particular suffer greatly from this because dps is the most valuable stat and it's not as important to have a lot of different stats in the same item. Highest tier blues have higher base damage then any of the grand exalted [weapon]s, and are common enough that there's always plenty on the AH. This means you'll need some excellent damage rolls to outclass average damage rolls for these blues. Coupled with high crafting fees...
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
May 31 2012 23:03 GMT
#28
Crafting has to work though right? I mean doesn't it have to produce items that are on par with top tier drops that you can find in the world? I say this in regards to economy. If crafting is worthless, then the gold currency itself becomes worthless. The only reason I've assumed gold was worth anything was because of its use in crafting. Once you have 100+ million gold, and have all the items you really need, what are you going to do with that money? Why would anyone want that much money unless crafting was viable.
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
May 31 2012 23:06 GMT
#29
Unless there are very good (dare i say best in slot) crafters only soulbound items, I will not start crafting. Decent items on the AH cost way the hell too much to be spending gold on anything else.
Resistentialism
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada688 Posts
May 31 2012 23:09 GMT
#30
Ya basically crafting is the only real goldsink other than the 15% on the AH. Eventually the very desirable items on the AH are going to inflate to the point where crafting becomes a reasonable option.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 31 2012 23:20 GMT
#31
On June 01 2012 07:58 Delvin wrote:
Crafted items are not the highest tier versions of the items - the highest tier drops have higher base armor/dmg values and I think higher possible stats as well.

http://d3db.com/item/i/archon-crown
http://d3db.com/item/i/sovereign-helm

11 out of the 372 possible affixes for Exalted Grand Sovereign Helms are lower-tier affixes that cannot be rolled on Archon Crowns. The fact that the crafting recipe guarantees rolling 6 properties outweighs the fact that there are 11 out of 372 poor properties that you don't want to roll.
Moderator
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
May 31 2012 23:29 GMT
#32
Combining gems or even removing them from armor pieces is quite a waste of money as well, often times! It
's much cheaper to just buy new ones from the AH most of the time. Only Act III NM currently but still...
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 31 2012 23:32 GMT
#33
5-6 mod items with passable stats are always fun to roll, with no alternative in item pieces <2M I take my chances. But still wishing for a good roll. :|
Meh.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
June 01 2012 00:35 GMT
#34
The main problem with crafting has to do with the items. It has to do with the AH. Good items are possible cheaper through crafting while they are guaranteed more expensive in the AH.

However, being that crafting doesn't ensure a good item, while the auction house does, means that you either depend on luck with crafting or pay for a sure thing with the AH.

Most people would rather have the sure thing than to take a risk.

This is because you gain gold by selling items--which you can't sell if you disenchant it. So all your pick ups either are spent on the AH or Crafting--but not both.

Once blizzard decides to fix crafting they will make it require drops that are almost as hard to get as act 4 legendaries, only then could they afford to buff crafting.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
June 01 2012 00:45 GMT
#35
Just as new runewords were added to d2 and new content is always added to WoW, expect to see in the future more from the artisans, even maybe them bringing back the one they got rid of in development. If you hit level 10 artisans now, its probably a waste if you won't need it until then, but it might be easier now than it will be then. Leveling up my artisans along with my character's level has been a major gold dump, but I don't feel like its a total loss. At the very least I feel that a lot of the best low level items will be coming from crafted items, whenever that market starts to develop and we see some perfect roll blues emerge.
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 12:39:24
June 01 2012 12:36 GMT
#36
Several improvements I'd love to blacksmithing.
Someone already suggested adding gem to reagants which would force a specific stat in it to reduce randomness. Of course gem quality would increase the amount of stats in an item, e.g radiant star=always 100% perf primary stat, but holy shit that would cost alot.

Also, they could make superior items that drop to be usable as a "base" like in D2 runewords so the item would have the random stats+superior items bonus (AS, armor, etc). Would give at least some use for those items that right now aren't even worth to pick up.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 12:45:50
June 01 2012 12:44 GMT
#37
Its worth it on hardcore atleast since items above like 54 are pretty scarce on the AH and you can luck out and get some nice 59 stuff before inferno. Mediocre rare dex vit pants ilvl 54 - 59 go for like 400k, all res items of all sorts ranging from 100k - 1mil. So if you luck out you can make a nice amount of gold or save some if u use it yourself.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
June 01 2012 20:04 GMT
#38
On June 01 2012 21:36 Mammel wrote:
Several improvements I'd love to blacksmithing.
Someone already suggested adding gem to reagants which would force a specific stat in it to reduce randomness. Of course gem quality would increase the amount of stats in an item, e.g radiant star=always 100% perf primary stat, but holy shit that would cost alot.


That is a really good idea... I've spent so much on gems now but don't have much to use them on.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 20:12:41
June 01 2012 20:08 GMT
#39
It's going to get patched, the economics of it at this point really doesn't work out at the moment. The thing is, with all the extra gold sinks that exist right now, it's very difficult for gold to accumulate in the economy to the point where crafting is at all feasible except in very specific circumstances.

On June 01 2012 21:36 Mammel wrote:
Several improvements I'd love to blacksmithing.
Someone already suggested adding gem to reagants which would force a specific stat in it to reduce randomness. Of course gem quality would increase the amount of stats in an item, e.g radiant star=always 100% perf primary stat, but holy shit that would cost alot.

Also, they could make superior items that drop to be usable as a "base" like in D2 runewords so the item would have the random stats+superior items bonus (AS, armor, etc). Would give at least some use for those items that right now aren't even worth to pick up.


I really like this idea too
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
June 01 2012 20:42 GMT
#40
The Blacksmith is very useful if you are rolling up a new char.
Also, if you keep your blacksmith close to your char level, it's allways worth a try to improve your gear. Crafting materials and gold aren't a problem if you only try to improve one thing of your equipment after a few level ups! I like the blacksmith!
And it even could get better, after patch.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Zoun
SHIN vs ByuN
herO vs sOs
Maru vs SHIN
Clem vs Bunny
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft469
RuFF_SC2 198
PiLiPiLi 133
Ketroc 50
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5184
Free 2081
Sharp 192
Backho 131
ggaemo 86
910 52
Jaeyun 44
sSak 39
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm122
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K184
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0304
Other Games
JimRising 538
ViBE138
Fuzer 84
Mew2King41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick957
BasetradeTV121
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH197
• musti20045 21
• practicex 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki40
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo982
• Stunt306
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
5h 50m
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
14h 50m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 9h
BSL
1d 14h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.