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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 04 2012 10:31 GMT
#841
On June 04 2012 19:29 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 19:05 JackDino wrote:
On June 04 2012 19:02 aseq wrote:
On June 04 2012 18:32 Regina wrote:
On June 04 2012 17:52 Shikyo wrote:
On June 04 2012 09:48 noD wrote:
What I dont get is most equipment required for act 2 wont EVER drop on act 1
how did u guys earn millions to get them ? T.T

Hum...

Magic find gear drops there, sells for 500k for 20%, 23% for gold find

movespeed + int boots drop there, 3mil

etc


I just auctioned by buying cheap items and selling them for 5 to 10 times more started with rings of 5-10k now doing business with hunders of thousands


Go play poker or something, I'd like to play d3 casually and get some gear now and then since drops are too low-level. Thanks for enormous inflation, I hope you win $2 when the RMAH starts.

If you want to play casually then you will have no need for the expensive gear he's selling, no need to whine, go play casually instead.

True. Problem here is that in D3 all the gear that is dropped is only viable in the act that it's dropped.

And this is completely false.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 10:38:05
June 04 2012 10:37 GMT
#842
I think I found some sick best in ah gloves on butcher like 160 str 15% as 30% crit damage 80 vit 68 resist all 26 fire resist. They probably could sell for a lot I gave em to scip for 4 mil so I could buy a new weapon (fist, 860 dps, 100 int, 60 vit, 747 life on hit, 2.6~ spirit regen a second) to do act 3.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 11:50:28
June 04 2012 11:45 GMT
#843
On June 04 2012 09:22 gaymon wrote:
Currently playing my monk and rolling through act2 inferno after buying some good stuff on the auctionhouse for 200k or so; i dont really know why all of you are having so many problems.
Although some elites are pretty annoying most of them are doable when cycling through cd's and kiting when all of em are down.


On June 04 2012 10:15 gaymon wrote:
How are all the monks speccing who cry about not beeing able to get through act2 ? I can hardly imagine having problems when u have a 3 seconds blind 1.5 sec fear and 4 sec invulnerable with pretty low cooldowns, when they are down just kite (possible against most elites)


stop pretending you've played monk and actually go play it
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 12:06:03
June 04 2012 12:03 GMT
#844
When I duo with my demonhunter friend act. It goes very smootly. We do the 5th quest of act 2 atm and just farm every elite/champ pack we encounter. (Some cases we ignore invulnreable mobs [99% of cases]).

Is it still possible to go like this in act3? How good gear I need in act3? I use the armorstack build and the earth ally.

Still trying to get my 400LOH weapon with socket where i can put anotehr 400LOH that's over 700dps and under 1.5m and 1.5+ speed. lol.
as useful as teasalt
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 13:35:10
June 04 2012 13:06 GMT
#845
the main problem is weapon
the highest 2 h dps i found in act 1 (and i did found hundreds to thousand of weapons) was like 700 and 1h 500, u can buy those for 5k on the ah ... like literally ....
edit: and im really tired of getting perfect stats weapons with 300 dps
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
June 04 2012 13:16 GMT
#846
With 500 all res, 9000 armor with buff, 40k dps with buff, 400 loh, 25k hp and 3.0 atk speed, i still get nuked down in an instant in act 2 if i don't time my serenity well... that is with keen eye AND resolve. so I do not believe when some people say act 2 ezpz with 200k gear from AH and don't even have to use blind or heal because I probably spent couple mil trying to gear up for act 2.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 04 2012 13:29 GMT
#847
A couple mil seems like nothing to me now. Your resist all, armour (assuming hard target and enchantress with keen eye) are both quite low, your hp isn't high either. Your LoH needs work also. Your DPS is insanely high but you still need to "kite" mobs in act 2 especially when you have low defensive stats. Doubling your life on hit would massively increase your surviability atm with that much attack speed (which you could easily drop).


Honestly with 40k dps you should easily be able to kite mobs through act 2.
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
June 04 2012 17:38 GMT
#848
On June 04 2012 22:16 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
With 500 all res, 9000 armor with buff, 40k dps with buff, 400 loh, 25k hp and 3.0 atk speed, i still get nuked down in an instant in act 2 if i don't time my serenity well... that is with keen eye AND resolve. so I do not believe when some people say act 2 ezpz with 200k gear from AH and don't even have to use blind or heal because I probably spent couple mil trying to gear up for act 2.


.. with 40k dps, 3.0 attack speed and 400 loh you can burst down anything with overawe + mangle. your hp is really low though but with those resist and armor you really shouldnt be having a problem. i finished act 2 with like 50% of those stats about 400+ resist, 19k dps without buffs, 6k armor and basically went overawe + seven sided strike + mangle in a single night.
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 17:52:17
June 04 2012 17:50 GMT
#849
Yo everyone i just killed diablo solo with 5 stacks stop ur crying
;D jks but im happy

here are my stats and ending photo proving i did it:
[image loading]

and

[image loading]


DONT GIVE UP :D

Also, my stats are actually better than that, but i forgot to switch my MF shoulders after an elite mob. and i still managed to kill him with ~70 less resists 3k hp and 2k dmg..
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
June 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#850
Some guy in korean forum did a testing and graphed the armor/res efficiency. The conclusion was 7000-9000 armor and 700 res was most efficient. If you have more than that, you are wasting those extra stats because the reduction becomes pointless. Once you have 7000 armor and 700 all res, get vitality. So 9000 armor being very low (wtf?) is a nonsense.

I don't have too much problem, I'm saying if I don't time it right, I'll still get bursted down very quickly. Like for instance, if I just stand there and take a single sand wasp's 4 hits, I'll die immediately...

Congrats runatme!
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
June 04 2012 18:27 GMT
#851
On June 05 2012 02:38 wwiv wrote:
[
.. with 40k dps, 3.0 attack speed and 400 loh you can burst down anything with overawe + mangle. your hp is really low though but with those resist and armor you really shouldnt be having a problem. i finished act 2 with like 50% of those stats about 400+ resist, 19k dps without buffs, 6k armor and basically went overawe + seven sided strike + mangle in a single night.


I see. Many legendary items with atk speed still doesn't work, and blizzard will fix it in 1.03. If attack speed on my boots (Asheara's lock or boj angler), pants, and bracer begins to work, my attack speed will be insanely high... and I probably won't even need high defense by then. Just life steal it back lol
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 18:36:10
June 04 2012 18:32 GMT
#852
On June 05 2012 03:20 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Some guy in korean forum did a testing and graphed the armor/res efficiency. The conclusion was 7000-9000 armor and 700 res was most efficient. If you have more than that, you are wasting those extra stats because the reduction becomes pointless. Once you have 7000 armor and 700 all res, get vitality. So 9000 armor being very low (wtf?) is a nonsense.

I don't have too much problem, I'm saying if I don't time it right, I'll still get bursted down very quickly. Like for instance, if I just stand there and take a single sand wasp's 4 hits, I'll die immediately...

Congrats runatme!


That's barbarian math. Monk healing is all flat and life on hit is such a huge part of sustain that as long as you don't get bursted in less than 5-10 seconds armour and resists is the only reduction that matters, and DIMINISHING RETURNS DOESNT EXIST. Only relative to HEALTH is exists, but since most of your health is actaully going to be gained over a long time thruogh LoH and breath of heaven and serenity why would you want lots of vitality.

9000 armour is only low if you have hard target, enchantress buff and keen eye. If you're getting armour buffing spells you want lots of armour, it's pretty easy to get 11k+ and it does make a difference.

That said, sacrificing resists and armour for DPS isn't necessarily a bad thing. Your DPS and attacks per second are insanely high which means life on hit (health) is what really scales with high attack speed and resists/armour. With high life on hit and attacks per second though, it makes your sustain so huge that the only thing that can kill you in burst, which means that SOME additional hp might help, but as you said you could do with at least 200 more resists and some more armour helps a lot considering you get so much out of all the scaling from enchantress, hard target and keen eye, 1.3k armour probably gives you 2k all buffs taken into consideration.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 18:54:18
June 04 2012 18:48 GMT
#853
Just wondering, just how necessary is having movespeed on boots? I've been playing for ~130 hours on my monk right before diablo inferno and I feel pretty dumb for never trying it. Just need a few opinions before I dump 2-4m on boots.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 04 2012 18:59 GMT
#854
Monk doesn't really need it I don't think.
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
June 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#855
On June 05 2012 02:50 run.at.me wrote:
Yo everyone i just killed diablo solo with 5 stacks stop ur crying
;D jks but im happy

here are my stats and ending photo proving i did it:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


and

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



DONT GIVE UP :D

Also, my stats are actually better than that, but i forgot to switch my MF shoulders after an elite mob. and i still managed to kill him with ~70 less resists 3k hp and 2k dmg..


gratz dude, saw your post, looked at my stats and went to do it too :p

[image loading]
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 04 2012 19:54 GMT
#856
Isn't diablo on inferno super easy? Everyones posting it like they "finished" inferno.
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
June 04 2012 20:04 GMT
#857
On June 05 2012 04:54 Slayer91 wrote:
Isn't diablo on inferno super easy? Everyones posting it like they "finished" inferno.


lol, he was actually harder den all the elites i cleared up to him maybe i was lucky this round, didnt have to skip any but diablo took me 2 tries. i would consider clearing act 4 (not just sniping diablo of course) finishing inferno. i can.. honestly foresee a life on hit nerf inc because i dont believe my current gear should have allowed such an easy clear.
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 20:41:05
June 04 2012 20:36 GMT
#858
On June 05 2012 05:04 wwiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:54 Slayer91 wrote:
Isn't diablo on inferno super easy? Everyones posting it like they "finished" inferno.


lol, he was actually harder den all the elites i cleared up to him maybe i was lucky this round, didnt have to skip any but diablo took me 2 tries. i would consider clearing act 4 (not just sniping diablo of course) finishing inferno. i can.. honestly foresee a life on hit nerf inc because i dont believe my current gear should have allowed such an easy clear.


diablo isn't really the hard part, i went through like 10 elites in act 4 ( i started on quest rakanoth and just rolled onto the end) and probably died 40 times.
if its so ez, post your achievement

edit, grats to you too :D now to just get godly items worth 30mil each for lulz
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
June 04 2012 20:42 GMT
#859
On June 05 2012 05:36 run.at.me wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 05:04 wwiv wrote:
On June 05 2012 04:54 Slayer91 wrote:
Isn't diablo on inferno super easy? Everyones posting it like they "finished" inferno.


lol, he was actually harder den all the elites i cleared up to him maybe i was lucky this round, didnt have to skip any but diablo took me 2 tries. i would consider clearing act 4 (not just sniping diablo of course) finishing inferno. i can.. honestly foresee a life on hit nerf inc because i dont believe my current gear should have allowed such an easy clear.


diablo isn't really the hard part, i went through like 10 elites in act 4 ( i started on quest rakanoth and just rolled onto the end) and probably died 40 times.
if its so ez, post your achievement


sure here you go,
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

started from the beginning of act 4, this was in the middle of my run
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
June 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#860
You using thunder clap? I've been using Keen eye for a while since I thought the + 5% reduction from having 10k armor was worth it. I guess you do lose a lot of attack speed.

How do you do in a4 against elites? how often can you go up to 5 stacks.
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