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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
November 18 2012 18:56 GMT
#3641
On November 18 2012 23:14 Levistus wrote:
hey guys. can you give me advice on what to upgrade. i currently have max mf but i can now have 2 items without mf since i have paragon 38. i want to at least reach 100k damage. also what stats should i look for in an offhand. is atk speed important? thanks.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Levistus-6434/hero/21605188

edit: i only have 30m but will have 100m when my items sell.



100k dps with max mf will probably be impossible with a 100m Budget. I would recommend dropping some mf. The higher run speed will more than make up for the missing mf. Drop your helm, gloves, amu and get new weapons imo.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 22:43:03
November 18 2012 22:41 GMT
#3642
What are the general stats/items that people have when running mp5-6-7? I'm currently having some trouble with some boss packs in A3 in just MP1. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to do higher difficulty if I just slap on some extra health/resists, but I thought I'd ask here just to get the feeling of what I am shooting for.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
November 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#3643
On November 19 2012 03:56 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 23:14 Levistus wrote:
hey guys. can you give me advice on what to upgrade. i currently have max mf but i can now have 2 items without mf since i have paragon 38. i want to at least reach 100k damage. also what stats should i look for in an offhand. is atk speed important? thanks.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Levistus-6434/hero/21605188

edit: i only have 30m but will have 100m when my items sell.



100k dps with max mf will probably be impossible with a 100m Budget. I would recommend dropping some mf. The higher run speed will more than make up for the missing mf. Drop your helm, gloves, amu and get new weapons imo.

what stats should i get for my mainhand and offhand?
hey man just curious
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
November 19 2012 15:38 GMT
#3644
I tried searching around a little, but did not find an answer: Does Mighty weapons Weapon mastery trigger from HotA?
I'm currently using a build without a fury-builder (HotA-Rend-shout-Ground stomp-Battle rage-Will), with a -5 rage cost immortal kings 2h, and am wondering if it's just my *feeling* that Weapon mastery works with the current skillset in some way, with a smoother play than without. Hmm.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
November 19 2012 16:15 GMT
#3645
On November 20 2012 00:38 Duvon wrote:
I tried searching around a little, but did not find an answer: Does Mighty weapons Weapon mastery trigger from HotA?
I'm currently using a build without a fury-builder (HotA-Rend-shout-Ground stomp-Battle rage-Will), with a -5 rage cost immortal kings 2h, and am wondering if it's just my *feeling* that Weapon mastery works with the current skillset in some way, with a smoother play than without. Hmm.

can you keep your fury up with that build without battle rage? i want to try Hota build but i run out of fury quickly.
hey man just curious
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 16:24:08
November 19 2012 16:23 GMT
#3646
I am using Into the Fray, without it it would be a really bad build.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
November 19 2012 16:51 GMT
#3647
On November 20 2012 00:38 Duvon wrote:
I tried searching around a little, but did not find an answer: Does Mighty weapons Weapon mastery trigger from HotA?
I'm currently using a build without a fury-builder (HotA-Rend-shout-Ground stomp-Battle rage-Will), with a -5 rage cost immortal kings 2h, and am wondering if it's just my *feeling* that Weapon mastery works with the current skillset in some way, with a smoother play than without. Hmm.

Mighty weapons' mastery triggers depending on the weapon coefficient of the ability. If the ability has a 100% coefficient then you'll get that fury 100% of the time, if the ability's coefficient is 0.08 (like sprint) you'll only get that fury 8% of the time.

There is a document someone made a while back, though it may not be accurate anymore (but should be pretty much correct): http://i.imgur.com/57kGJ.png

It would seem to indicate that HOTA-Smash has a 80% coefficient.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 17:08:42
November 19 2012 17:05 GMT
#3648
should consider using a skorn anyway so much more damage and especially if youre planning on using weapons master anyway with a hota build for the crit chance

edit: heres my current build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WaZ-1854/hero/20269737 if youre interested i change around the 4 spot alot to fit whatever kind of run im doing
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 21:08:16
November 19 2012 20:24 GMT
#3649
On November 20 2012 02:05 WaZ wrote:
should consider using a skorn anyway so much more damage and especially if youre planning on using weapons master anyway with a hota build for the crit chance

edit: heres my current build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WaZ-1854/hero/20269737 if youre interested i change around the 4 spot alot to fit whatever kind of run im doing


Hrrm budget got 2,2 millions at the moment, life time high heh. Going for IK 2set next, by gloves or boots.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duvon-2716/hero/8100825 As you can see, there are other lacks than damage at the moment :D Damage wise I can do mp4 or maybe even mp5 (not tried solo), but I take too much damage (or well, have too little life), and die some even in mp3.
But. I have fun, especially now that the build works quite smoothly.

Edit: Btw, thanks Hairy!
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
November 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#3650
anyone here using a mighty weapon over axe/mace and can keep wotb up for a long time? i'm having trouble keeping my wotb up and i use an axe. any tips so i can keep my wotb up for a long time? thanks
hey man just curious
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 24 2012 00:15 GMT
#3651
On November 24 2012 07:44 Levistus wrote:
anyone here using a mighty weapon over axe/mace and can keep wotb up for a long time? i'm having trouble keeping my wotb up and i use an axe. any tips so i can keep my wotb up for a long time? thanks

Pull more. Whirl more. Never stop hitting sprint and rage. Bump the MP if things die too fast.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 25 2012 17:51 GMT
#3652
On November 24 2012 09:15 Obvious.660 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 07:44 Levistus wrote:
anyone here using a mighty weapon over axe/mace and can keep wotb up for a long time? i'm having trouble keeping my wotb up and i use an axe. any tips so i can keep my wotb up for a long time? thanks

Pull more. Whirl more. Never stop hitting sprint and rage. Bump the MP if things die too fast.


dont really know what to expect here. i def cant keep wotb forever. in high density areas its no prob ofc, for most act2/act1 areas its a different story. also when a single elite is left after evrything is dead it sometimes runs out too.
should i just pull the whole area and kill evrything at once?


also i recently put a bit of money in my barb + found some stuff : http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BMP-2789/hero/2055763

found the IK helm,gloves and the vile ward. paid 1m for lacunis, 22 for ik chest, 1,5m for belt,6 for the depth diggers,8 for the boots, like 1-2m each on the weapons.

seems like i can do mp6 decently. ofc not with the killspeed of my 240k dps archon wiz but its okish and rather safe. still where to go from here? (outside of gems, waiting for maybe another dupe phase ;P)

also i got a ~1350 300str 190critdmg skorn that is a big improvement in charscreen dps but fury generation isnt so seksy it seems, guess i need a ton ias for 2hand?



life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
November 25 2012 19:46 GMT
#3653
On November 26 2012 02:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 09:15 Obvious.660 wrote:
On November 24 2012 07:44 Levistus wrote:
anyone here using a mighty weapon over axe/mace and can keep wotb up for a long time? i'm having trouble keeping my wotb up and i use an axe. any tips so i can keep my wotb up for a long time? thanks

Pull more. Whirl more. Never stop hitting sprint and rage. Bump the MP if things die too fast.


dont really know what to expect here. i def cant keep wotb forever. in high density areas its no prob ofc, for most act2/act1 areas its a different story. also when a single elite is left after evrything is dead it sometimes runs out too.
should i just pull the whole area and kill evrything at once?


also i recently put a bit of money in my barb + found some stuff : http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BMP-2789/hero/2055763

found the IK helm,gloves and the vile ward. paid 1m for lacunis, 22 for ik chest, 1,5m for belt,6 for the depth diggers,8 for the boots, like 1-2m each on the weapons.

seems like i can do mp6 decently. ofc not with the killspeed of my 240k dps archon wiz but its okish and rather safe. still where to go from here? (outside of gems, waiting for maybe another dupe phase ;P)

also i got a ~1350 300str 190critdmg skorn that is a big improvement in charscreen dps but fury generation isnt so seksy it seems, guess i need a ton ias for 2hand?




Yes, you'll need more attack speed. 6% more will get you to 6.67 ticks on the mainhand in WotB, and 11% more will get you to 7.5 ticks on the offhand. If you want to switch to a skorn,, you'll need even more IAS to ensure that it ticks at a reasonable rate.

For moderately low MP I would suggest weapon throw as a method to maintain fury and wotb. If you're struggling with WotB uptime at higher MP, you just have to work on your fury management and try to end the fight with as much fury and berserker time as possible. Spam BR + sprint when you have good tornadoes in place to reduce wotb time, switch to your fury generator while spamming sprint when the elite is almost dead, then leave quickly once it's done.

You should also be getting lifesteal on one of your weapons. Lifesteal is already more than half of your healing, you should get rid of the LOH on your weapons for more. I would also upgrade the belt to one with more strength, belts can have a max of 300 strength so 95 is too low.

Use www.d3rawr.com/d for detailed barb calculations.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:33:55
November 25 2012 20:52 GMT
#3654
as said wotb is mostly fine, its just small singles and in general the less crowded areas where it drops. and i dont see how to avoid that for the areas like oasis whre i often spend 5-10secs just searching for another few monsters to kill.its not like archon which i can stack up on a big pack and then clear the rest of the level cause i have 90secs of archon left.

for ticks guess i need to read up on that but sure i can squeeze 6% ias in there somewhere. lifesteal weapon is way harder since they cost aton. belt upgrade will come, lotsa auctions running out tonight maybe i can snipe one ~ also i guess i want a fast mainhand for more procs? and how important is mainhand dmg over a less dps crit dmg one?

what would you say is required ehp(and maybe dps/effective lifegain) for lets say mp8farming and high mp ubers? didnt try ubers yet on the barb since wiz as cm is just too good even with baddy tank eq. but i know barbs are damn good at ubers ~~


/edit btw my first str hellfire ring jsut rolled 4crit,30 avg dmg and a socket at 199str. better then all my ~13 int ones.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 09:14:20
November 26 2012 09:11 GMT
#3655
There's nothing about your gear that really stands out so now it's about gradually upgrading. I'd start with getting ik helm and belt with more str. You should get 200 more str on those two combined at a reasonable price. Also your left ring does little for your dps but i guess you replaced it with the hellfire ring already. After that, some more offensive lacunis and possibly attack Speed on ik gloves. Then all you need is an awesome mh (though yours isn't bad) and you're set. You can easily drop some vita for more dps. 35k life with 600 ar with Shout is enough. I have very similar Life steal to yours with 150k unbuffed dps and 33k life and can Solo mp10 (of course I don't cuz it takes forever to kill stuff). Also can Solo kill mp6 ubers in a 4player Game.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Infinity-2447/hero/14149971
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
November 27 2012 09:30 GMT
#3656
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tomatoshark-1830/hero/4078232

what do I do next I have zero money right now but I have tihs gear I know i need a new chest and ias crit jewerly :/
alexnos
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 09:57:11
November 27 2012 09:54 GMT
#3657
I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game:
Eu server ,
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858

I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf.
A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience...
I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated..
I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive.
Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps).
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
November 27 2012 10:05 GMT
#3658
On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:
I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game:
Eu server ,
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858

I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf.
A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience...
I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated..
I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive.
Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps).

Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap.

alexnos
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania32 Posts
November 27 2012 10:31 GMT
#3659
On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:
I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game:
Eu server ,
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858

I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf.
A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience...
I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated..
I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive.
Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps).

Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap.


Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms.
For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important
than extra 12% ms.
On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters.
What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if
i am boxed in by some nasty monsters.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 10:41:42
November 27 2012 10:41 GMT
#3660
Haven't played my barb in a while and I know the gear is pretty dated - using a friend's from when the game just came out so it's pretty crappy. I know I need Lacuni's and ms boots, probably ik, but what should I be getting for the rest of the slots? Have ~140m to spend. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mierin-1506/hero/26463479
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