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On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters.
Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit?
Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709
I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps.
As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries.
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progressing through a3 inferno on my poor ass hc barb and i have a quick question: is there any dps benchmarks with regards to rend/revenge that i should know of? like should i be using revenge until i hit x dps? for reference i have 30k/40k (shield/dw) dps with battle rage on
sometimes i feel like the rng lord is playing games with me and i get scared 'cause revenge never procs lol
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With 30k dps your rend heal should be fine, maybe a little lacking on single target, but revenge ain't better there. Depends on your defensive stats too of course though. With about 680 resist, 8,3k armor, 34% block (buffed stats) I was doing fine in a3 (excepting my low hp) with about 30k dps and a rend-tankish build.
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On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries.
Thanks for the advice,i followed it!
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858
I spent 110 million and changed 2 pieces: pants and bracers.
Profile not updated with lacuni yet.
Lacuni have 95 str,180 armor,9as, 3.5% crit. I bought pants with more vit and str to compesate
the loss from old bracers.
I gained 8k dps but lost 85 ar.
Is it worth buying a IK helm or saving 200 mil and hoping on a good mempo?
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On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries.
Sprint releases a maximum of 6 tornadoes...and even @ 12% MS w/ WOTB it's already capped. It doesn't help that much. So that information was inaccurate. The only thing that provides a true increase in tornado ticks is your actual Offhand APS which is why a 1.66 dagger is so crucial. Your stat sheet ww dps is based only on your mainhand DPS + cd // Okay? Whirlwind is not what gives the most damage..Majority of your damage comes from your tornado ticks + dmg // Far too many people build their WW barbs improperly....For instance.
a 250k dps unbuff barb @ 2.2 aps OH will do less damage then a 150k dps unbuff barb @ 2.86 aps OH over time.
Mechanics are simple,
Your dps for stat sheet ww comes from your mainhaind dps / your tornado ww ticks come from your OH attacks per second speed.
So as discussed earlier.
250k dps @ 2.2 aps // 2.00001-2.22222 aps - 9 frames per tick - 6.67 ticks per second - 20 ticks
150k dps @ 2.86 aps // 2.85715-3.33333 aps - 6 frames per tick - 10.0 ticks per second - 30 ticks
So @ 2.86 aps you're doing 10 MORE TICKS per second...@ 50%cc thats a hell of a lot more dps...So your attacking faster?? w/ more crits? = more dps over time..
*Also as stated earlier, problems w/ keeping up Fury / WoTB //
1.0.5 patch notes = WW fury cost scales with aps in 1.0.5 while it had a fixed fury cost per tick in the previous versions of the game; ((((((((now the more aps you have the less fury it costs per tick.)))))) The fury cost ranges from 3 fury per tick at the lowest aps to 1.634 fury per tick at 4.4472 aps.
Less fury cost? = more fury, DUH!
I'm around 145k dps unbuff when in ww w/ my 1.66 OH dagger. @ 2.9 aps.
I kill MP10 Azmodan faster then 250k dps unbuff barbs @ 2.2 aps by around 30-45 second to give you a clear example of how incredible it is.
*it's important to learn tornado ticks because b4 you purchase an item, if it that extra 1% attack speed will put you over a new break pt. It's crucial to you, to get that extra 1%.
*W/ WotB it's a bit easier to use bash(instigation), also when in large packs try spamming battle rage / sprint same time to help clear ur fury out if ur generating it too fast.
Source:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4902400739
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On November 29 2012 18:18 alexnos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries. Thanks for the advice,i followed it! http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I spent 110 million and changed 2 pieces: pants and bracers. Profile not updated with lacuni yet. Lacuni have 95 str,180 armor,9as, 3.5% crit. I bought pants with more vit and str to compesate the loss from old bracers. I gained 8k dps but lost 85 ar. Is it worth buying a IK helm or saving 200 mil and hoping on a good mempo?
IK helm is trash unless ur super low on cc/ 50%cc is ideal. w/ passives ofc.
Always go for a Mempo if you can spare the cc% / the IAS as stated above will help push you above the break pt. Also the AR is always super nice too.
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Whoever geared you, geared you properly, the mass ias is the perfect route. IAS + cc is way better then CD + cc anyday of the week.
I'm not a big fan of Skorn since it's crazzzyyy slow. But if your on a cheaper route it makes sense. IMO w/ the 30m you should either uprade your Amulet or ring.
For amulet, aim for same cc + AR + STR / (ias) if u can afford it, but instead of having AR + Poison, u should be stacking Physical resistance, since a barb's dmg comes majority from physical dps...W/ proper LS + ww ticks arcane / poison/molten should never ever be an issue.
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On November 29 2012 19:03 jESUIT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 18:18 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries. Thanks for the advice,i followed it! http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I spent 110 million and changed 2 pieces: pants and bracers. Profile not updated with lacuni yet. Lacuni have 95 str,180 armor,9as, 3.5% crit. I bought pants with more vit and str to compesate the loss from old bracers. I gained 8k dps but lost 85 ar. Is it worth buying a IK helm or saving 200 mil and hoping on a good mempo? IK helm is trash unless ur super low on cc/ 50%cc is ideal. w/ passives ofc. Always go for a Mempo if you can spare the cc% / the IAS as stated above will help push you above the break pt. Also the AR is always super nice too.
Thanks for the advice. I think i will save a couple hundred millions and hope at a Mempo with as and crit
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On November 29 2012 19:17 alexnos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 19:03 jESUIT wrote:On November 29 2012 18:18 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries. Thanks for the advice,i followed it! http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I spent 110 million and changed 2 pieces: pants and bracers. Profile not updated with lacuni yet. Lacuni have 95 str,180 armor,9as, 3.5% crit. I bought pants with more vit and str to compesate the loss from old bracers. I gained 8k dps but lost 85 ar. Is it worth buying a IK helm or saving 200 mil and hoping on a good mempo? IK helm is trash unless ur super low on cc/ 50%cc is ideal. w/ passives ofc. Always go for a Mempo if you can spare the cc% / the IAS as stated above will help push you above the break pt. Also the AR is always super nice too. Thanks for the advice. I think i will save a couple hundred millions and hope at a Mempo with as and crit
Well you dont have to get 1 w/ crit unless your crit is super low they always roll w/ AS + AR / Socket / Life % the cc is just the random prop.
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On November 29 2012 19:22 jESUIT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 19:17 alexnos wrote:On November 29 2012 19:03 jESUIT wrote:On November 29 2012 18:18 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 20:10 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 19:31 alexnos wrote:On November 27 2012 19:05 Big G wrote:On November 27 2012 18:54 alexnos wrote:I would like some advice on how to progress further in this game: Eu server , http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I can do MP5 farming runs quite comfortably but doing MP7 Alkaizer for mf. A typical run takes me 45 minutes.I know it is not efficient but I am not running for experience... I kinda hit a wall on raising my dps any further and any advice would be greatly appreciated.. I was thinking of changing the helm with a IK one with lots of strength..but it is too expensive. Hard choices ..as i am willing to go to a maximum of 100 mil for 1 pice(at least 3-4k more dps). Lacuni bracers first, you need 24% ms. Then IK helm. You can drop a bit of resistances, so get a IK helm with +armor, they're very cheap. Thanks for the advice but i am a bit reluctant to drop my bracers.I will lose life,dps and str for extra 12% ms. For MP5 12% would have mattered but on MP7 it takes more time to kill stuff so I fill dps is a bit more important than extra 12% ms. On MP7 i manage to stay 95% of the time in wotb due to big health on monsters. What would be the optimal ar needed not to die on high mp?I currently die on MP7 only if i am boxed in by some nasty monsters. Why do you think you'll lose dps and vit? Take a look at my Lacuni: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709I bought 'em for 100mil several weeks ago, now you can probably find something better for less and you'll gain a lot of real dps due to 8-9%ias and movement speed. Sprint releases tornadoes the faster you move, so 24%ms is even more important than raw dps. As for all resist, I can't provide an exact number since what really matters is your total damage reduction. I got less AR than you but more armor, reduced melee and elite damage, life regeneration etc. Only thing I can say is that armor is really undervalued in AH, so be smart when searching for top legendaries. Thanks for the advice,i followed it! http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858I spent 110 million and changed 2 pieces: pants and bracers. Profile not updated with lacuni yet. Lacuni have 95 str,180 armor,9as, 3.5% crit. I bought pants with more vit and str to compesate the loss from old bracers. I gained 8k dps but lost 85 ar. Is it worth buying a IK helm or saving 200 mil and hoping on a good mempo? IK helm is trash unless ur super low on cc/ 50%cc is ideal. w/ passives ofc. Always go for a Mempo if you can spare the cc% / the IAS as stated above will help push you above the break pt. Also the AR is always super nice too. Thanks for the advice. I think i will save a couple hundred millions and hope at a Mempo with as and crit Well you dont have to get 1 w/ crit unless your crit is super low they always roll w/ AS + AR / Socket / Life % the cc is just the random prop.
Atm I have 55.5% crit chance and on my main i have 1.91 attacks /sec and on off hand 2.09.
Swapping my helm for a Mempo with no crit means I will dip under 50% cc(49.5).
I am looking at a price range of 200-300 million on a very low crit Mempo to keep me above the 50% threshold.
Still,hard to save up 300 mil 
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NarutO-2588/hero/4876216
I'd like to spend 100m , which route would you go? I'm aiming obviously to MP10 in the end, but that will be after 800+m are spent. Right now I'm trying to get into the direction of MP5-6, not to farm but to play and have fun
Edit: I already know that IK set is the beginning and should be replaced besides the chest which is BIS , but witching hour as a belt for example is too fucking expensive TT;
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On November 29 2012 19:38 Type|NarutO wrote:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NarutO-2588/hero/4876216I'd like to spend 100m , which route would you go? I'm aiming obviously to MP10 in the end, but that will be after 800+m are spent. Right now I'm trying to get into the direction of MP5-6, not to farm but to play and have fun Edit: I already know that IK set is the beginning and should be replaced besides the chest which is BIS , but witching hour as a belt for example is too fucking expensive TT;
If I had that money I would first change the ammy,20 millions will buy you a considerable better one.
Gloves would come in second place,I would try to find something with at least 8% cc and 30 cd and ar.
Next i would chance all green gems to max ones and find a helm with ar also.
A good echoing fury is worth every penny.
The general idea from 100k dps upward is to swap loh for life steal.I found that at least 5% ls will do.
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Right now I do have 97k DPS buffed with just Battlerage + Follower. I got an Echoing Fury in my stash with >1000 DPS but it just lacks the CHD unfortunately  ! I guess AR on gloves + amulett would end up in a way better DPS, could even get LOH on the amulett as well. Right now I do have 1400 LoH. As helm I'd go for a Mempo, Shoes Iceclimbers.. thing is, thats way more than 100m ;-)
Thanks for your headsup, will stalk the auction house to see what I can get, but please keep the suggestions coming
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jESUIT, I think you're oversimplifying the attack speed vs CC/CD balance. I tend to think of it this way - between one tick breakpoint to another, any additional IAS gear you invest in does not contribute to your tornado/WW dps until you reach that next breakpoint.
As an example, I'm at 2.5 APS in WotB, which gives me 8.57 ticks per second. In order to hit 10 ticks per second, I need an additional 25% IAS which is equivalent to 3 items. 1 ring, my amulet and my helmet currently do not have attack speed, so I would likely replace those. To test it out, I went on www.d3rawr.com/d and swapped out the crit damage on my ring and amulets for attack speed, and added attack speed to my helm as well. The tdps score went down as a result. Sure, if I had an unlimited budget, I could go for trifectas on the rings and amulet, but realistically a single such item with decent stats and +damage would cost more than all the rest of my gear combined. Similarly, a mempo with 5.5% crit is exorbitantly expensive.
I think a more achievable approach to gearing for dps is to get IAS on the off-slot items, stacking it with crit or crit damage whenever possible. This means lacuni with crit, mempo with crit, witching hour and inna's pants. From there, get just enough additional IAS to hit the nearest breakpoint, then for the remaining jewellery/gloves you can stack +dmg/CC/CD/mainstat.
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On November 29 2012 19:58 zylog wrote:jESUIT, I think you're oversimplifying the attack speed vs CC/CD balance. I tend to think of it this way - between one tick breakpoint to another, any additional IAS gear you invest in does not contribute to your tornado/WW dps until you reach that next breakpoint. As an example, I'm at 2.5 APS in WotB, which gives me 8.57 ticks per second. In order to hit 10 ticks per second, I need an additional 25% IAS which is equivalent to 3 items. 1 ring, my amulet and my helmet currently do not have attack speed, so I would likely replace those. To test it out, I went on www.d3rawr.com/d and swapped out the crit damage on my ring and amulets for attack speed, and added attack speed to my helm as well. The tdps score went down as a result. Sure, if I had an unlimited budget, I could go for trifectas on the rings and amulet, but realistically a single such item with decent stats and +damage would cost more than all the rest of my gear combined. Similarly, a mempo with 5.5% crit is exorbitantly expensive. I think a more achievable approach to gearing for dps is to get IAS on the off-slot items, stacking it with crit or crit damage whenever possible. This means lacuni with crit, mempo with crit, witching hour and inna's pants. From there, get just enough additional IAS to hit the nearest breakpoint, then for the remaining jewellery/gloves you can stack +dmg/CC/CD/mainstat.
Sure, okay maybe I gave the wrong impression. I'm not saying neglect everything except cc / ias. But most barbs simply barely cut the bare breaking pt in exchange for just raw dmg / dps. Where as that is the wrong approach by any means because the raw dmg dps output is much slower over time. Keep in mind this is APS on your OH, a quick way to find out your dps on your OH is so strike the air w/ stat sheet open and see what it shows, keep in mind it will always round to the nearest # so if your like between 1, you will have 2 calculate yourself. But as I stated before a 11% dagger @ 1.66aps w/ LS will bump you up tremoundsly so you don't HAVE to add the ias on your other items and you can keep the crit dmg on your items. Finding a 800-900 dps+ 1.66 dagger w/ LS + cd + open socket is roughly around 50-100m NA prices. Not a bad price to find a decent one if this will put you up over 2 breaking pts. Esp one like 8 ticks to around 16 ticks.
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On November 29 2012 19:58 zylog wrote:jESUIT, I think you're oversimplifying the attack speed vs CC/CD balance. I tend to think of it this way - between one tick breakpoint to another, any additional IAS gear you invest in does not contribute to your tornado/WW dps until you reach that next breakpoint. As an example, I'm at 2.5 APS in WotB, which gives me 8.57 ticks per second. In order to hit 10 ticks per second, I need an additional 25% IAS which is equivalent to 3 items. 1 ring, my amulet and my helmet currently do not have attack speed, so I would likely replace those. To test it out, I went on www.d3rawr.com/d and swapped out the crit damage on my ring and amulets for attack speed, and added attack speed to my helm as well. The tdps score went down as a result. Sure, if I had an unlimited budget, I could go for trifectas on the rings and amulet, but realistically a single such item with decent stats and +damage would cost more than all the rest of my gear combined. Similarly, a mempo with 5.5% crit is exorbitantly expensive. I think a more achievable approach to gearing for dps is to get IAS on the off-slot items, stacking it with crit or crit damage whenever possible. This means lacuni with crit, mempo with crit, witching hour and inna's pants. From there, get just enough additional IAS to hit the nearest breakpoint, then for the remaining jewellery/gloves you can stack +dmg/CC/CD/mainstat.
Not to mention, faster OH attack speed will also contribute to more tornado ticks, more tornado ticks produce more fury, more APS will use less fury cost, also increase your LS % because the more ticks on tornadoes the more LS, which is better mitigation for survability.
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I think WW is boring and not so good for farming. -_-
I play WT !
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On November 29 2012 20:49 Boonbag wrote:
I think WW is boring and not so good for farming. -_-
I play WT !
Not so good for farming? Is this a joke? Unless your referring to elite farming only @ higher MP levels then WW is not the best. But overall? Paragon farming? High MP farming? there is nothing faster...Tempest rush is close because of the MS but it's crazy hard to wear leorics / HF / cain set and do tempest rush @ decent dps. Archon is fairly close but the MS% on Sprint is just too great., then it goes back to wearing HF / leoric / cain, majority of Archon wiz dont have the mitigation to use all of that and do a good amount of dps + armor / AR. & Your favorite "Weapon Throw" build is still less efficient then HoTA in terms of "farming"
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On November 29 2012 22:40 jESUIT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 20:49 Boonbag wrote:
I think WW is boring and not so good for farming. -_-
I play WT ! Not so good for farming? Is this a joke? Unless your referring to elite farming only @ higher MP levels then WW is not the best. But overall? Paragon farming? High MP farming? there is nothing faster...Tempest rush is close because of the MS but it's crazy hard to wear leorics / HF / cain set and do tempest rush @ decent dps. Archon is fairly close but the MS% on Sprint is just too great., then it goes back to wearing HF / leoric / cain, majority of Archon wiz dont have the mitigation to use all of that and do a good amount of dps + armor / AR. & Your favorite "Weapon Throw" build is still less efficient then HoTA in terms of "farming"
why so angry?
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