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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 27 2014 21:35 GMT
#1361
does it seem likely that jade harvester + quetz will get nerfed in upcoming patches?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 28 2014 02:31 GMT
#1362
with the new tiered rift and competitive balancing based from that it'll probably be nerfed.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Totenkopf!
Profile Joined May 2014
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 17:15:17
May 29 2014 17:13 GMT
#1363
So if you play a Pet-Build what Elemental-Damage should you get on Bracers, and should you get more than one Item with it? I guess its Physical Damage to boost pet-damage?!

On May 28 2014 06:35 Frolossus wrote:
does it seem likely that jade harvester + quetz will get nerfed in upcoming patches?


Whats that?
ChooChooChua
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
May 29 2014 19:14 GMT
#1364
Does the "increased damage to fetish army" work with the Passive who summons them?
NiTroSc2
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States144 Posts
June 04 2014 02:28 GMT
#1365
On May 30 2014 04:14 ChooChooChua wrote:
Does the "increased damage to fetish army" work with the Passive who summons them?


nope, only +physical iirc
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 01:20:25
June 22 2014 01:14 GMT
#1366
which one is better, 2500 dps rhenho flayer vs 2050 dps starmetal?

i've tested the SMK a bit and it seems the clear speed is not that much better if at all, but i tend to get low more often or stuck with CD and no army. (HC)

i feel like i'm playing this SMK wrong. maybe i should try a higher torment level so the fetishes don't keep idle that often?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
NiTroSc2
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States144 Posts
June 22 2014 01:20 GMT
#1367
rhenho offers great survivability thru the cc it has with addling toads (also spawns fetish sycophants quickly)
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 04:59:54
June 22 2014 01:20 GMT
#1368
^yea the addling toads are great, the survivability is very noticeable

edit: nvm lol ripped the smk
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 23 2014 18:12 GMT
#1369
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 23 2014 18:17 GMT
#1370
On June 24 2014 03:12 Terranasaur wrote:
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?

Pet is far easier to gear than Jade.
Actually, Jade/DoT WD isn't even possible until you have the set for the 6p bonus. Trying to kill mobs with just DoT at anything above T3 would take forever.
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
June 24 2014 01:07 GMT
#1371
On June 24 2014 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:12 Terranasaur wrote:
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?

Pet is far easier to gear than Jade.
Actually, Jade/DoT WD isn't even possible until you have the set for the 6p bonus. Trying to kill mobs with just DoT at anything above T3 would take forever.



I half disagree. Pet is MUCH harder to gear than Jade, but Jade is almost useless until you get 7 specific legendaries. Most people start off with Pet and then use it to start gearing Jade.


Pet is harder because you need MoJ (semi-rare), Tasker and Theo (very rare), Starmetal Kukri (ultra rare), Hexing Pants (ultra rare), Tall Man's Finger (ultra rare). And then on top of that, things like SoJ/etc. However, pet builds are playable without any of these items, they just aren't very effective until you get them. You'll be in T3-T4 for a long time until you get enough of these items.

Jade is completely useless until you get 7 legs. You need 5pc Jade, RoRG, and Quetz helm. However, the full build does not have any ultra rare items in it. Once you get those 7 legs, it doesn't take long before you are facerolling T6.
NiTroSc2
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States144 Posts
June 24 2014 01:31 GMT
#1372
the dps of an smk pet wd is pants on head retarded strong if you get all the items you need. probably clears t6 solo the fastest (or at least one of the fastest)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 01:35:37
June 24 2014 01:33 GMT
#1373
On June 24 2014 10:07 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:12 Terranasaur wrote:
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?

Pet is far easier to gear than Jade.
Actually, Jade/DoT WD isn't even possible until you have the set for the 6p bonus. Trying to kill mobs with just DoT at anything above T3 would take forever.



I half disagree. Pet is MUCH harder to gear than Jade, but Jade is almost useless until you get 7 specific legendaries. Most people start off with Pet and then use it to start gearing Jade.


Pet is harder because you need MoJ (semi-rare), Tasker and Theo (very rare), Starmetal Kukri (ultra rare), Hexing Pants (ultra rare), Tall Man's Finger (ultra rare). And then on top of that, things like SoJ/etc. However, pet builds are playable without any of these items, they just aren't very effective until you get them. You'll be in T3-T4 for a long time until you get enough of these items.

Jade is completely useless until you get 7 legs. You need 5pc Jade, RoRG, and Quetz helm. However, the full build does not have any ultra rare items in it. Once you get those 7 legs, it doesn't take long before you are facerolling T6.

you can have a horribly geared pet doc and reach t4-5 really early zuni 4 piece and moj will get you there really quickly
t4-5 jade doc doesn't kick in til you have the 7 items and t6 won't kick in until you get a nice SoJ and strongarms

most people don't go for the full endgame BiS pet doc before they switch to jade if they are going to switch
NiTroSc2
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States144 Posts
June 24 2014 01:37 GMT
#1374
On June 24 2014 10:33 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 10:07 Wangsta wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:12 Terranasaur wrote:
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?

Pet is far easier to gear than Jade.
Actually, Jade/DoT WD isn't even possible until you have the set for the 6p bonus. Trying to kill mobs with just DoT at anything above T3 would take forever.



I half disagree. Pet is MUCH harder to gear than Jade, but Jade is almost useless until you get 7 specific legendaries. Most people start off with Pet and then use it to start gearing Jade.


Pet is harder because you need MoJ (semi-rare), Tasker and Theo (very rare), Starmetal Kukri (ultra rare), Hexing Pants (ultra rare), Tall Man's Finger (ultra rare). And then on top of that, things like SoJ/etc. However, pet builds are playable without any of these items, they just aren't very effective until you get them. You'll be in T3-T4 for a long time until you get enough of these items.

Jade is completely useless until you get 7 legs. You need 5pc Jade, RoRG, and Quetz helm. However, the full build does not have any ultra rare items in it. Once you get those 7 legs, it doesn't take long before you are facerolling T6.

you can have a horribly geared pet doc and reach t4-5 really early zuni 4 piece and moj will get you there really quickly
t4-5 jade doc doesn't kick in til you have the 7 items and t6 won't kick in until you get a nice SoJ and strongarms

most people don't go for the full endgame BiS pet doc before they switch to jade if they are going to switch


sunkeeper is really good as well. although if you rift with a zdps monk you won't need too much outside of the 7 pieces.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 01:44:33
June 24 2014 01:43 GMT
#1375
l0l Wangsta, totally not what I was talking about, not sure why you're bringing BiS/end game items into the discussion when I obviously wasn't going there. Terranasaur even says in his post that he's just starting out.

A from scratch WD with common legendaries can easily rift on T1-3 just by using Addling Toads/FS. You can then swap FS into FA if you happen to come across 3 Zuni's and a RoRG. Or stick with FS if you find a Rhenho, etc.

Point is, Haunt/Locust WD is simply not viable until you have the full 5-6 piece Jade set + RoRG. I don't know why you're arguing otherwise.
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 24 2014 02:41 GMT
#1376
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Terranasaur-1719/hero/18127891

Been gearing this guy for 2 days. Already can clear t4 solo and can hang in a t6 group.

Pet is definitely the way to go for starters.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 24 2014 04:21 GMT
#1377
On June 24 2014 10:07 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 24 2014 03:12 Terranasaur wrote:
Just starting out with WD, Pet is probably better than Jade, ya?

Pet is far easier to gear than Jade.
Actually, Jade/DoT WD isn't even possible until you have the set for the 6p bonus. Trying to kill mobs with just DoT at anything above T3 would take forever.



I half disagree. Pet is MUCH harder to gear than Jade, but Jade is almost useless until you get 7 specific legendaries. Most people start off with Pet and then use it to start gearing Jade.


Pet is harder because you need MoJ (semi-rare), Tasker and Theo (very rare), Starmetal Kukri (ultra rare), Hexing Pants (ultra rare), Tall Man's Finger (ultra rare). And then on top of that, things like SoJ/etc. However, pet builds are playable without any of these items, they just aren't very effective until you get them. You'll be in T3-T4 for a long time until you get enough of these items.

Jade is completely useless until you get 7 legs. You need 5pc Jade, RoRG, and Quetz helm. However, the full build does not have any ultra rare items in it. Once you get those 7 legs, it doesn't take long before you are facerolling T6.

You can go up to T4 with MoJ+well-rolled common random legs, and T5 once you find a tasker, or zuni's, maybe with a serpent if you need toughness. If my dad(see blog for details) can do it(albeit with a few deaths from standing in stuff), pretty much anybody can.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
June 24 2014 20:33 GMT
#1378
On June 24 2014 10:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l Wangsta, totally not what I was talking about, not sure why you're bringing BiS/end game items into the discussion when I obviously wasn't going there. Terranasaur even says in his post that he's just starting out.

A from scratch WD with common legendaries can easily rift on T1-3 just by using Addling Toads/FS. You can then swap FS into FA if you happen to come across 3 Zuni's and a RoRG. Or stick with FS if you find a Rhenho, etc.

Point is, Haunt/Locust WD is simply not viable until you have the full 5-6 piece Jade set + RoRG. I don't know why you're arguing otherwise.


I said half-disagree, because your points are valid.

What I mean is, Pet WD starts out strong but plateaus quickly, and then takes a massive amount of time to reach BiS. Jade WD has a barrier to entry, but once you get over that small hump, it takes very little time to get BiS or close
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
July 09 2014 04:58 GMT
#1379
The last thing I had done in D3 (weeks ago) was get my WD to 70, and did very little after that with regards to gearing and such. Cracked it back open today and have been enjoying toads+FS quite a bit

Gambled a Mask of Jeram, and one dropped too. Both were the set version......

Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 27 2014 03:36 GMT
#1380
So a Starmetal Kukri dropped for me while I was playing on my Crusader. It had pretty decent rolls so I decided that I'll be playing my WD now.

He's how he looks: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Melkor-1140/hero/42198777.

He's pretty crappy because my Barbs/Crusader/DH are the ones I've primarily invested in. Any suggestions for builds and items? I'm guessing the orange Mask of Jeram is BIS for helm as well as TnT for gloves. Is Hexing pants possible with Zunimassas?
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