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vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
June 04 2012 01:31 GMT
#501
any WD knows if
1) The Atk spd increase on the armor pieces that say "Increase atk spd" will be fixed to match "Atk spd increase"
2) The poison dmg % on items such as Zunimassa's Journey (boots).. When is the multiplier added?
Thanks.
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 03:42:34
June 04 2012 03:41 GMT
#502
WD tanking build



would like to see it versus harder elite packs in A2 though and wonder if its still viable without spending tons of gold versus A3 mobs which hit harder than A2

will probably try this build one day once I have 10s of millions of gold and I'm bored
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
June 04 2012 07:12 GMT
#503
On June 04 2012 12:41 udgnim wrote:
WD tanking build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txw8aLvMdxE

would like to see it versus harder elite packs in A2 though and wonder if its still viable without spending tons of gold versus A3 mobs which hit harder than A2

will probably try this build one day once I have 10s of millions of gold and I'm bored

Nice, would like to try myself but i don't have enough life on hit gear ^^

Currently farming gold to buy a new weapon. My current weapon has ~650DPS but is pretty slow (1.20). Therefor it gives me a fair amount of int (248) and a bit of vita. I'm now unsure whether to buy a blue 950DPS weapon (with 1.40+ as) with no additional stats beside the damage or a ~800DPS weapon with a bit of life on hit and stats (kinda nuking myself when going vs reflect damage).

My stats so far: ~25k damage, 43k HP, ~250 resi to all, 2.5k armor, 1.72attacks/sec. Could also try to grab some of those imba boots (only have movement on them so far) or bracers (lacuni). Kinda dislike those as helms without a socket.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#504
On June 04 2012 16:12 dezi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 12:41 udgnim wrote:
WD tanking build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txw8aLvMdxE

would like to see it versus harder elite packs in A2 though and wonder if its still viable without spending tons of gold versus A3 mobs which hit harder than A2

will probably try this build one day once I have 10s of millions of gold and I'm bored

Nice, would like to try myself but i don't have enough life on hit gear ^^

Currently farming gold to buy a new weapon. My current weapon has ~650DPS but is pretty slow (1.20). Therefor it gives me a fair amount of int (248) and a bit of vita. I'm now unsure whether to buy a blue 950DPS weapon (with 1.40+ as) with no additional stats beside the damage or a ~800DPS weapon with a bit of life on hit and stats (kinda nuking myself when going vs reflect damage).

My stats so far: ~25k damage, 43k HP, ~250 resi to all, 2.5k armor, 1.72attacks/sec. Could also try to grab some of those imba boots (only have movement on them so far) or bracers (lacuni). Kinda dislike those as helms without a socket.


if you are using the Splinters build, get a weapon with attack speed

the way the attack speed formula works is that it takes weapon attack speed multiplied by gear attack speed

so let's say you have a 1.4 attack speed sword with a 25% increased attack speed and have 50% increased attack spread out over the rest of your gear

the weapon attack speed would be 1.4 * 1.25 = 1.75 and the 1.75 attack speed would then get multiplied by 1.5 for an attack speed of 2.625
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 04 2012 09:30 GMT
#505
Finaly made it to inferno SK is down with my splinter / locust build mostly. 19k DPS atm, how much u guys think ill need for butcher (25khp) to be able to solo him, and with what build?

Up till now its been actually more easy then I expected, think I died once on the whole way to SK because I didnt think Id need my walk to get out of trouble ^_^
KCCO!
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
June 04 2012 09:30 GMT
#506
Hmm, how much dps is needed for Butcher runs with splinters? I have 23k and i seem to still die to him quite a lot, but some1 said they can do it just fine with 21k... I am thinking its just a L2P issue for me, but looking for some reassurance on that, so i don't spend time practicing for nothing.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
June 04 2012 09:55 GMT
#507
I've killed Inf-Butcher solo with ~18k damage. Just need to dodge his hook, charge and ofc the fire. Had Splinters + BBV + Hex(Heal) + SH(Heal) + GW(Heal) + Locust (Mana Regain). Just spammed Splinters till he died and maybe a Locust when he was near after charge. Passives: PtV, Vessel, up to you.

Now using Splinters + Fetish(last rune) + GotD(80%) + Hex(Heal) + GW(Heal) + Wall(width), Passives: PtV, %chance to get a fetish and Vessel.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10831 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 10:05:27
June 04 2012 10:04 GMT
#508
I don't see any reason to not use Bears in Act 1 Inferno.. I killed him the first time with ~14k DMG and 30k HP and i am now doing it with 22k DMG and 25k HP (or something around there, it's a lil low on the HP tho)...

They are extremly strong against the Butcher, 100% viable against "whites" and still "okish" against most Elites/Champs.

This changes extremly in Act 2 tho... But if you just want to farm some Gold in Inferno Act 1 --> Go Bears.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
June 04 2012 10:05 GMT
#509
butchers attacks are predictable. if you have enough hp that butcher cant one shot you with his 5-hook shot thingy you can kill him with 20k+ dps easily.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 04 2012 10:15 GMT
#510
K ill try my best tonight tnx
KCCO!
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 13:47:07
June 04 2012 13:46 GMT
#511
Okay, some help required. I've hit a plateau where I cannot gear up at a reasonable cost. My dps is 37.5k and I can't find anything good that's priced at a decent rate. I can do Warden/Butcher runs in ~30 mins, Maghda runs in ~40 minutes. Is there a better place to farm? I get 1-shot on a regular basis in A3.

Some questions:
1: Is it worth to pay 500k to unlock Hell Whimsyshire?
2: Is there a difference in loot quality between Warden/Butcher and Maghda? Is there a better place to farm in order to get higher quality loot? Consider my gear.
3: What should I upgrade with my limited cash (1.6 million), and what is a reasonable price for that upgrade?

So here is a screenshot of my gear and my stats. Advice needed.
[image loading]
[image loading]

If anybody has items that I could use, pm me to trade!
Edit: Forgot to mention Americas server.
=Þ
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 14:00:00
June 04 2012 13:58 GMT
#512
Over all your gear is fine, you are at the point where you need to improve your items bit by biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I would switch dat axe for a dagger/knife/sword/spear for faster attack speed so you can dodge in act 2 better.
Maybe get an amulet with crt chance+damage if you don't want attack speed on it. Also your helmet seems like 15k gold crap

also act 1 farm isn't that bad, you can roll very good jewelery or gloves or other armor pieces (worth 1m+)
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 04 2012 14:04 GMT
#513
On June 04 2012 22:58 DrGreen wrote:
Over all your gear is fine, you are at the point where you need to improve your items bit by biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I would switch dat axe for a dagger/knife/sword/spear for faster attack speed so you can dodge in act 2 better.
Maybe get an amulet with crt chance+damage if you don't want attack speed on it. Also your helmet seems like 15k gold crap

also act 1 farm isn't that bad, you can roll very good jewelery or gloves or other armor pieces (worth 1m+)

I thought 1.91 attack speed was pretty fast already? I do die to the occasional projectile, but usually it's because I was too greedy or my "oh shit" buttons were on cooldown or misclicked (press horrify instead of haunt...) What stats on the helm do you recommend? I'll probably spend 1-1.5 million I guess.

Paying 1 million to improve my dps by 500 (and lose 5k hp too) feels really silly. Are there good "benchmark" items that I can invest in, that I won't need to change for a while?
=Þ
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 14:34:46
June 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#514
On June 04 2012 22:46 Heh_ wrote:
Okay, some help required. I've hit a plateau where I cannot gear up at a reasonable cost. My dps is 37.5k and I can't find anything good that's priced at a decent rate. I can do Warden/Butcher runs in ~30 mins, Maghda runs in ~40 minutes. Is there a better place to farm? I get 1-shot on a regular basis in A3.

Some questions:
1: Is it worth to pay 500k to unlock Hell Whimsyshire?
2: Is there a difference in loot quality between Warden/Butcher and Maghda? Is there a better place to farm in order to get higher quality loot? Consider my gear.
3: What should I upgrade with my limited cash (1.6 million), and what is a reasonable price for that upgrade?

So here is a screenshot of my gear and my stats. Advice needed.
[image loading]
[image loading]

If anybody has items that I could use, pm me to trade!
Edit: Forgot to mention Americas server.


Your weapon needs improvement. Search for 1 handed daggers and ceremonial knives with 22%+ increased attack speed. A 1.88 attack speed dagger of the same dps as your wep would increase your attack speed by 58 ALONE which is more than all that attack speed gear you have been stacking. With your attack speed gear, that new weapon speed would bring you near 2.9 attacks per second and give you at least 10k dps more.

I managed to get a good attack speed dagger for 800k but that was kinda a steal. You have to check the AH every 5 mins because the daggers/ceremonial knives sell so fast.
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Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 04 2012 14:51 GMT
#515
On June 04 2012 23:33 DeltruS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 22:46 Heh_ wrote:
Okay, some help required. I've hit a plateau where I cannot gear up at a reasonable cost. My dps is 37.5k and I can't find anything good that's priced at a decent rate. I can do Warden/Butcher runs in ~30 mins, Maghda runs in ~40 minutes. Is there a better place to farm? I get 1-shot on a regular basis in A3.

Some questions:
1: Is it worth to pay 500k to unlock Hell Whimsyshire?
2: Is there a difference in loot quality between Warden/Butcher and Maghda? Is there a better place to farm in order to get higher quality loot? Consider my gear.
3: What should I upgrade with my limited cash (1.6 million), and what is a reasonable price for that upgrade?

So here is a screenshot of my gear and my stats. Advice needed.
[image loading]
[image loading]

If anybody has items that I could use, pm me to trade!
Edit: Forgot to mention Americas server.


Your weapon needs improvement. Search for 1 handed daggers and ceremonial knives with 22%+ increased attack speed. A 1.88 attack speed dagger of the same dps as your wep would increase your attack speed by 58 ALONE which is more than all that attack speed gear you have been stacking. With your attack speed gear, that new weapon speed would bring you near 2.9 attacks per second and give you at least 10k dps more.

I managed to get a good attack speed dagger for 800k but that was kinda a steal. You have to check the AH every 5 mins because the daggers/ceremonial knives sell so fast.

This is what I don't understand: what's the point of having 2.8+ attacks per second if each attack does next to nothing? Isn't the 22% increased attack speed already factored in to the weapon dps? If I can find a weapon on the AH with the same dps but higher attack speed, doesn't it simply mean that it attacks faster but less hard?

I know the advantages of high attack speed are faster reaction time and less overkill (but splinters don't overkill a ton). Disadvantages are lower damage from zombie bear spam and greater mana drain. So what's the idea compromise between these factors?
=Þ
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2012 15:10 GMT
#516
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 15:39:44
June 04 2012 15:21 GMT
#517
On June 04 2012 22:46 Heh_ wrote:
Okay, some help required. I've hit a plateau where I cannot gear up at a reasonable cost. My dps is 37.5k and I can't find anything good that's priced at a decent rate. I can do Warden/Butcher runs in ~30 mins, Maghda runs in ~40 minutes. Is there a better place to farm? I get 1-shot on a regular basis in A3.


my WD is in A3 and has transitioned from trying to obtain a balance of resist, HP, and DPS for A2 to all out glass cannon and is currently at 61K+ DPS.

I highly suggest sacrificing survivability (you already don't have much in A3) and just looking for gear that will up your DPS and attack speed, but keep the gear you completely A2 with because its a lot more convenient to be able to play and tank hits and A2 DPS doesn't need to be as high as A3 to make decent headway

one thing you should definitely get though is 12% move speed boots + gear that ups movement speed like Lacuni Prowlers because the run speed definitely becomes useful since Inferno WD for most people is a ton of kiting

get a weapon with attack speed though (preferably as close to 25% IAS as possible). it will up your attack speed significantly assuming you have other gear with IAS

This is what I don't understand: what's the point of having 2.8+ attacks per second if each attack does next to nothing? Isn't the 22% increased attack speed already factored in to the weapon dps? If I can find a weapon on the AH with the same dps but higher attack speed, doesn't it simply mean that it attacks faster but less hard?


your timing window for DPSing is wider. you have more chances to attack with higer attack speed whereas a lower attack speed might have needed more space to attack. this is especially important to me when dealing with elites/bosses

61K DPS @ 2.92 attack speed does plenty of Splinter damage albeit single target damage which is one the biggest issues with WDs in comparison to what Wizard/DH has imo since WD damage is 90%+ splinters (at least mine)

Disadvantages are lower damage from zombie bear spam and greater mana drain. So what's the idea compromise between these factors?


you can keep Zombie Bears if you want, but if your main DPS skill is Splinters, imo I'd give up Zombie Bears
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
June 04 2012 15:22 GMT
#518
On June 04 2012 23:51 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 23:33 DeltruS wrote:
On June 04 2012 22:46 Heh_ wrote:
Okay, some help required. I've hit a plateau where I cannot gear up at a reasonable cost. My dps is 37.5k and I can't find anything good that's priced at a decent rate. I can do Warden/Butcher runs in ~30 mins, Maghda runs in ~40 minutes. Is there a better place to farm? I get 1-shot on a regular basis in A3.

Some questions:
1: Is it worth to pay 500k to unlock Hell Whimsyshire?
2: Is there a difference in loot quality between Warden/Butcher and Maghda? Is there a better place to farm in order to get higher quality loot? Consider my gear.
3: What should I upgrade with my limited cash (1.6 million), and what is a reasonable price for that upgrade?

So here is a screenshot of my gear and my stats. Advice needed.
[image loading]
[image loading]

If anybody has items that I could use, pm me to trade!
Edit: Forgot to mention Americas server.


Your weapon needs improvement. Search for 1 handed daggers and ceremonial knives with 22%+ increased attack speed. A 1.88 attack speed dagger of the same dps as your wep would increase your attack speed by 58 ALONE which is more than all that attack speed gear you have been stacking. With your attack speed gear, that new weapon speed would bring you near 2.9 attacks per second and give you at least 10k dps more.

I managed to get a good attack speed dagger for 800k but that was kinda a steal. You have to check the AH every 5 mins because the daggers/ceremonial knives sell so fast.

This is what I don't understand: what's the point of having 2.8+ attacks per second if each attack does next to nothing? Isn't the 22% increased attack speed already factored in to the weapon dps? If I can find a weapon on the AH with the same dps but higher attack speed, doesn't it simply mean that it attacks faster but less hard?


It is factored in and you're right.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2012 15:26 GMT
#519
whoops, I meant to write that I just beat him on Inferno
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
June 04 2012 15:38 GMT
#520
For Butcher I found 20k dps was not enough to kill him reliably, I had to manouver too perfectly or he would enrage. At 25k dps I could do it comfortably. Now at 35k dps I can snooze through him.
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