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On May 24 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 00:09 NExt wrote:On May 23 2012 23:29 Tobberoth wrote:So, for people who are playing a more "legit" style, what gear/stats do you have and what build are you using? I'm trying to play the more standard kite style and I'm still having massive trouble. I have about 19k damage and 16k hp (give me a break, I'm working from a 0vita/crit set  ). White trash is ezpz, just blizzard and poison hydra, I rarely have to do anything else, they are dead before they are out of the blizzard, otherwise I use acane bolt with obliteration, frost nova if they come too close. Problem is, it's still complete shit against every elite pack I've found. Wallers lock you in and kill you, reflect damage does so much damage to me that I kill myself, any form of speed, teleport, or cc like vortex/jailer owns me by denying my kiting. Do I need a lot more HP to get this working, or what can I do? I found Teleport (Wormhole) + Illusionist procs everytime you take any sort of damage in Inferno. So I don't only use it to skip when I feel like it but its pretty damn good to survive a tough/long elite mob fight. Lets you regen ur other CDs + you get simply get away etc.. check it out. While this is a good idea, 1. What skill do I skip to get teleport? Removing arcane orb leaves me without a nuke, hydra and blizzard are obvious musts, force weapon raises my damage an important lot, energy armor is still vital unless you want to get oneshotted... my only option is to remove frost nova, which I still find really useful  2. This will not really be viable in later acts, where any attack will oneshot you (apparently, even with perfect gear you'll be oneshotted in act 4), so illusionist will never be activated...
for a kite style, get rid of arcane orb cast those extra blizzards and hydras. if you really need Teleport (it was just a suggestion) for those elite mobs. some combos can be pretty disgusting
eh im not a fan of 'viable later' till you get there and see it for urself.
gl hf
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so do we just wait until blizzard does something? right now pretty much anything ranged will oneshot you...
I mean melee is manageable with no cooldown frost nova, but good luck managing to freeze a group of winged moloks for example, seriously
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Should have just rushed through the game from the very beginning and gotten all the good stuff with those buggy armor mechanics.
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Boo, have to quit my wizard until stuff sells on the AH so I can rebuy more VIT gear. I kept 3 pieces, but not enough to make me not die in one hit still!
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I'm currently going throuh hell using this build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#WlYOSX!aWg!YZZZca
I still have some issue with some particular rare mobs but under then that, it's going good.
I got a low dps (about 3.7k) but I got enough like (about 26k) and dmg reduction (nearly 50%).
so far soo good. will see if I can still manage to find my way in inferno with that.
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just try to bought something on auction house, money gona and no item... transaction cancel and no item... after that they took it down... now i dont even have enough money to repair, having 0 vitality and got 1 shot by EVERYTHING.
I demand a sever reset.
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Ok so that crit build is still working? I quess i could give it a try if someone confirms.
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On May 24 2012 01:50 Juissi wrote:
Ok so that crit build is still working? I quess i could give it a try if someone confirms.
no, no build is working right now, go play barbarian.
edit: and no, im seriously considering this...
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On May 24 2012 01:51 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 01:50 Juissi wrote:
Ok so that crit build is still working? I quess i could give it a try if someone confirms. no, no build is working right now, go play barbarian. edit: and no, im seriously considering this...
lol, on last page u said it was working? I have barbarian alt on nightmare difficulty maybe i should change :D
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On May 24 2012 01:54 Juissi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On May 24 2012 01:50 Juissi wrote:
Ok so that crit build is still working? I quess i could give it a try if someone confirms. no, no build is working right now, go play barbarian. edit: and no, im seriously considering this... lol, on last page u said it was working? I have barbarian alt on nightmare difficulty maybe i should change :D
I'll put it this way, I died 13 times to a pack of Winged Moloks. I mean normal ones. Force Armor + Crystal Shell @ 27k hp still get oneshotted right now.
In other words, it's pretty much unplayable right now until Blizz does something. Melee packs are doable with the crit/stun build, but good luck trying to stack together the ranged mobs so you can do the same. Just not gonna happen.
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I got one shot by azmodan on hell with force armor and diamond skin on. just north of 20k hp
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On May 24 2012 01:54 Juissi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On May 24 2012 01:50 Juissi wrote:
Ok so that crit build is still working? I quess i could give it a try if someone confirms. no, no build is working right now, go play barbarian. edit: and no, im seriously considering this... lol, on last page u said it was working? I have barbarian alt on nightmare difficulty maybe i should change :D
well that was before the patch hit my end....... i thought people were just complaining about yesterday bugs reports...
currently im sitting with 1k gold, 0 vitality, all items are out of endurance... my 140k is in AH and i cant do anything until then...
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*sigh*
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4662223
Skill Rune - Force Armor
Amount of damage absorbed from a single attack will now cap at 100% of a player's maximum Life
I guess now it's just a matter of finding that sweet spot of HP to make the skill useful, but I'm not really happy with this nerf -_-
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k, this is a completely retarded nerf. Wtf? Even with force armor, it wasn't that easy mode to solo inferno. Elites have mechanics to kill you if youre too slow (enrage until they regain full hp) and bosses too (i.e. the butcher with his full-room fire). Now, wizards are simply useless compared to like the witch doctor or the demon hunter because our 2 defense spells can't even tank 1 hit. Oh, and since when Blizzard ninja nerf something without thinking of an alternate solution before?
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Well now they HAVE to change diamond skin, theres no reason ever to use it at lvl 60 and it's before that immuneshield that's up 50% of time is beyond overpowered. Retarded ability design, at least force armor made it somewhat interesting.
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Im still doing well with the critbuild with just vitality
but thats only on act 1, so I am not sure how act 2 and on will go, having trouble with certain affixes but I can handle most of them, going to experiment with other builds now to see if anything else works.
and lets be honest, FA was retarded with the 0 vit build and it was stupid to believe they would not change that.
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I don't deny FA was too strong, but what I'm pissed about is they insta nerfed 2 spells at once (diamond skin is close to useless in inferno now), wich were the only 2 reliable defensive skills for a wizard, and they did that ninja mode. Even the demon hunter nerf isn't that bad because they can still escape the worst situation with their 1/1.5 secs invis. Witch doctors still have their anti-death thing, and monks/barbarians are melee class so they are made to tank more things.
Oh, and if the only viable wizard build in inferno is a crit one, THAT is retarded. I understand the game scales well with gear, but I just fail to see how the wizards can even compete without their 2 defensive spells, even with top gear. I guess we'll have to wait and see...
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On May 24 2012 02:23 red_b wrote:
I got one shot by azmodan on hell with force armor and diamond skin on. just north of 20k hp
Luckily all of his attacks are insanely easy to dodge.
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What's going on? Are players generally struggling with the Wizard? (Barbarian here)
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On May 24 2012 02:50 PatouPower wrote:
I don't deny FA was too strong, but what I'm pissed about is they insta nerfed 2 spells at once (diamond skin is close to useless in inferno now), wich were the only 2 reliable defensive skills for a wizard, and they did that ninja mode. Even the demon hunter nerf isn't that bad because they can still escape the worst situation with their 1/1.5 secs invis. Witch doctors still have their anti-death thing, and monks/barbarians are melee class so they are made to tank more things.
They only nerfed FA, DS was useless to begin with because it doesn't scale, it only found some use with the FA combination, and now that the FA is nerfed, DS is back to useless as it was.
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