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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 23 2012 13:50 GMT
#541
Well derp, time to re-gear for some VIT T_T;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[TLMS] REBOOT
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 23 2012 13:59 GMT
#542
I heard it was reverted outside US servers? can anyone confirm?
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 23 2012 14:03 GMT
#543
Does anyone actually go through Inferno all over again?? or do you just zip around with Teleport and relevant zip-around-abilities?

Find it hard to find the motivation to snooze through mobs. btw, what are your Inferno builds?
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
unDef
Profile Joined June 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:06:58
May 23 2012 14:06 GMT
#544
I suspect in the next month or so, skills and the gear that cooresponds for the "best" Inferno build will change regularly due to patches. Because of this, I'm going to take my time and just keep farming particular spots and work the AH. That way, when everything is figured out, I will just buy the best available items.
Excuse me wat
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
May 23 2012 14:08 GMT
#545
On May 23 2012 22:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I heard it was reverted outside US servers? can anyone confirm?

Still broken on EU.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:11:03
May 23 2012 14:10 GMT
#546
On May 23 2012 23:08 Teliko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 22:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I heard it was reverted outside US servers? can anyone confirm?

Still broken on EU.


The game or the FA build?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 23 2012 14:12 GMT
#547
On May 23 2012 23:06 unDef wrote:
I suspect in the next month or so, skills and the gear that cooresponds for the "best" Inferno build will change regularly due to patches. Because of this, I'm going to take my time and just keep farming particular spots and work the AH. That way, when everything is figured out, I will just buy the best available items.


Tell me more about these spots
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 23 2012 14:21 GMT
#548
On May 23 2012 22:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Well derp, time to re-gear for some VIT T_T;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Dohohoh I spent the entire time saving and improving a set of 'proper' gear.

....and force armor still reduces more damage than every part of it.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 23 2012 14:29 GMT
#549
So, for people who are playing a more "legit" style, what gear/stats do you have and what build are you using?

I'm trying to play the more standard kite style and I'm still having massive trouble. I have about 19k damage and 16k hp (give me a break, I'm working from a 0vita/crit set ). White trash is ezpz, just blizzard and poison hydra, I rarely have to do anything else, they are dead before they are out of the blizzard, otherwise I use acane bolt with obliteration, frost nova if they come too close.

Problem is, it's still complete shit against every elite pack I've found. Wallers lock you in and kill you, reflect damage does so much damage to me that I kill myself, any form of speed, teleport, or cc like vortex/jailer owns me by denying my kiting.

Do I need a lot more HP to get this working, or what can I do?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 14:40:17
May 23 2012 14:39 GMT
#550
Crit/Permafrost build still works if you are wondering, a lot of elites are a pain with it though.
WriterXiao8~~
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 23 2012 14:43 GMT
#551
What exactly did they change?
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 23 2012 15:02 GMT
#552
On May 23 2012 23:43 CruelZeratul wrote:
What exactly did they change?

Energy armor with force armor rune no longer "always" reduces incoming damages to 35% of maximum health. According to damage tests done by other people in this thread, it seems like you need to meet a minimum health threshold before it starts actually reducing damage properly. That minimum health threshold seems arbitrary at the moment, but in general it seems like you need to have at least ~20k HP for the force armor to reduce incoming damage by a non-zero amount in inferno.

Thus, 0 vitality builds with massive hp regen (which was how most wizards solo'd inferno) are no longer viable. T_T
[TLMS] REBOOT
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 23 2012 15:09 GMT
#553
On May 23 2012 23:29 Tobberoth wrote:
So, for people who are playing a more "legit" style, what gear/stats do you have and what build are you using?

I'm trying to play the more standard kite style and I'm still having massive trouble. I have about 19k damage and 16k hp (give me a break, I'm working from a 0vita/crit set ). White trash is ezpz, just blizzard and poison hydra, I rarely have to do anything else, they are dead before they are out of the blizzard, otherwise I use acane bolt with obliteration, frost nova if they come too close.

Problem is, it's still complete shit against every elite pack I've found. Wallers lock you in and kill you, reflect damage does so much damage to me that I kill myself, any form of speed, teleport, or cc like vortex/jailer owns me by denying my kiting.

Do I need a lot more HP to get this working, or what can I do?


I found Teleport (Wormhole) + Illusionist procs everytime you take any sort of damage in Inferno. So I don't only use it to skip when I feel like it but its pretty damn good to survive a tough/long elite mob fight. Lets you regen ur other CDs + you get simply get away etc.. check it out.
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 23 2012 15:11 GMT
#554
suddenly everything turned impossible overnight lol

okay, so I've made a total gear makeover, I have 26k hp and similar dps with the crit build right now, still get oneshotted by just about everything in Act III despite FA, doesn't seem to do anything even now

exactly what are you supposed to do now then?
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 23 2012 15:14 GMT
#555
On May 24 2012 00:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
suddenly everything turned impossible overnight lol

okay, so I've made a total gear makeover, I have 26k hp and similar dps with the crit build right now, still get oneshotted by just about everything in Act III despite FA, doesn't seem to do anything even now

exactly what are you supposed to do now then?


I'm doing Act 1 now myself. I got 26k, get one shot by Act 1 mobs easily.
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
May 23 2012 15:18 GMT
#556
It's not like this is the finalised result of FA, they're obviously still messing around with it if it's one shotting people with high hp. I'd advise against completely rebuying gear sets until we get an official word on how FA is being changed. Just because people have done tests to work out how it was changed in the hotfix doesn't mean it's going to stay like that.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 23 2012 15:25 GMT
#557
--- Nuked ---
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 23 2012 15:34 GMT
#558
If they're gonna change something I hope it's something like: "Does not work with a total health pool below 15000" or something, cuz right now it's just nerfed too much, it's useless
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 23 2012 15:42 GMT
#559
On May 24 2012 00:09 NExt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 23:29 Tobberoth wrote:
So, for people who are playing a more "legit" style, what gear/stats do you have and what build are you using?

I'm trying to play the more standard kite style and I'm still having massive trouble. I have about 19k damage and 16k hp (give me a break, I'm working from a 0vita/crit set ). White trash is ezpz, just blizzard and poison hydra, I rarely have to do anything else, they are dead before they are out of the blizzard, otherwise I use acane bolt with obliteration, frost nova if they come too close.

Problem is, it's still complete shit against every elite pack I've found. Wallers lock you in and kill you, reflect damage does so much damage to me that I kill myself, any form of speed, teleport, or cc like vortex/jailer owns me by denying my kiting.

Do I need a lot more HP to get this working, or what can I do?


I found Teleport (Wormhole) + Illusionist procs everytime you take any sort of damage in Inferno. So I don't only use it to skip when I feel like it but its pretty damn good to survive a tough/long elite mob fight. Lets you regen ur other CDs + you get simply get away etc.. check it out.

While this is a good idea,
1. What skill do I skip to get teleport? Removing arcane orb leaves me without a nuke, hydra and blizzard are obvious musts, force weapon raises my damage an important lot, energy armor is still vital unless you want to get oneshotted... my only option is to remove frost nova, which I still find really useful

2. This will not really be viable in later acts, where any attack will oneshot you (apparently, even with perfect gear you'll be oneshotted in act 4), so illusionist will never be activated...
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 15:52:04
May 23 2012 15:50 GMT
#560
FUCKING NERF MY ONLY BUILD ASJHDKLJSGFHKJ jesus now i have nothing... NOTHING... How much vit i have to add so FA works again?

this is so anoying... thank god i still keep a bit of vit gem -_-


On May 24 2012 00:42 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 00:09 NExt wrote:
On May 23 2012 23:29 Tobberoth wrote:
So, for people who are playing a more "legit" style, what gear/stats do you have and what build are you using?

I'm trying to play the more standard kite style and I'm still having massive trouble. I have about 19k damage and 16k hp (give me a break, I'm working from a 0vita/crit set ). White trash is ezpz, just blizzard and poison hydra, I rarely have to do anything else, they are dead before they are out of the blizzard, otherwise I use acane bolt with obliteration, frost nova if they come too close.

Problem is, it's still complete shit against every elite pack I've found. Wallers lock you in and kill you, reflect damage does so much damage to me that I kill myself, any form of speed, teleport, or cc like vortex/jailer owns me by denying my kiting.

Do I need a lot more HP to get this working, or what can I do?


I found Teleport (Wormhole) + Illusionist procs everytime you take any sort of damage in Inferno. So I don't only use it to skip when I feel like it but its pretty damn good to survive a tough/long elite mob fight. Lets you regen ur other CDs + you get simply get away etc.. check it out.

While this is a good idea,
1. What skill do I skip to get teleport? Removing arcane orb leaves me without a nuke, hydra and blizzard are obvious musts, force weapon raises my damage an important lot, energy armor is still vital unless you want to get oneshotted... my only option is to remove frost nova, which I still find really useful

2. This will not really be viable in later acts, where any attack will oneshot you (apparently, even with perfect gear you'll be oneshotted in act 4), so illusionist will never be activated...


I think the wormhole + illusionist build is mostly targeted people who just run by everything so they could get to boss faster. pretty need if you equipped the warding passive so you always regen up the HP you lost.
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