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Cascade
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DODswe4
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On December 21 2012 13:14 travis wrote: well i really have trouble believing the top heroscore wizards on diabloprogress are dying at a difficulty level they are farming at but maybe im wrong lol depends on how much +xp stuff you try to carry at the same time and its not only about them dying but also killing stuff with +xp gear. although for archon at some point you don't need cm anymore because you have it up when you need it | ||
Pokebunny
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- archon cd is two minutes - armor spells last two minutes - galvanizing ward adds another two minutes - evocation is -15% CD, making the archon cooldown 102 seconds therefore, we can draw these conclusions: - even without CM, galvanizing ward, or evocation, archon cooldown will always be up (or a couple seconds from up) when you need to refresh your armor spell - the benefit of CM is that if you manage to get in a weird situation and lose archon, you can easily refresh it fairly quickly instead of derping around for 30+ seconds. while archon does reduce its own cooldown, it's not a significant amount, probably comparable to using evocation - the benefit of evocation is that you can reset your armor/archon a bit before your armor is done - the benefit of galvanizing ward is primarily convenience, as there may be times where two minutes have passed since you turned on archon but you're not at a part of the run where you can easily build up a ton of time (rare but also a bit of a quality of life thing) | ||
Cascade
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Also, no matter how high you rank, no one is immune to a piece with few monsters just when you refreshed your archon. Maybe they know exacty where they can and cannot refresh though, what do I know? ![]() | ||
KiWiKaKi
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On December 21 2012 13:36 Cascade wrote: For the very top players, I guess it is about getting in as many teleports as possible, and then cm helps a bit, specially if you have a high attack speed. Maybe you can go from 77MXP/h to 80MXP/h or something... Maybe it is also a matter of not having any other passives that they really need... If you already have the dps and ehp you need, what other passive would you take? Also, no matter how high you rank, no one is immune to a piece with few monsters just when you refreshed your archon. Maybe they know exacty where they can and cannot refresh though, what do I know? ![]() yeah i mean i know when to refresh so they definitely do i really just don't get it, it seems like it'd be better to take blur or evocation than cm maybe they are playing in groups at high mp.. i dunno lol its weird cuz i do see a lot of them with pinpoint barrier | ||
Eschaton
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On December 21 2012 13:37 KiWiKaKi wrote: CM doesnt work for archon teleport I've always found this strange, as it definitely works for the explosion skill. Wonder if this is intended? | ||
ximae
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btw here is what ive been hoarding for when pvp hits, the build itself might change but i like the idea of the gear. 21% reduced damage from elites and 40% increased damage to elites. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ximae-1789/hero/1342065 | ||
Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:18 FallDownMarigold wrote: Hey I picked up my Oculus with the same thinking in mind. It turns out, however, that it's only the duration that is increased -- just like it says -- and not the damage. It's still the same damage, it's just over a longer period of time. This is not necessarily any better than the same damage over a shorter period of time. I too have been running this build a lot, and I have found that the bonus to blizzard does not help or hurt, really. There are some reasons you want your blizzard to kill faster, while there are other reasons you may want it to hang around longer, but still dealing the same overall dmg. For pvp, I think this blizzard bonus will be nice. Everyone (well, most people) seem to ignore blizzard for pvp, but i imagine a build/style that involves perma-filling the screen with constant blizzard, made possible by +arcane regen gear/skills, along with consta-teleoprting via TP cooldown oculus+evo and perhaps even the teleporting passive, although my testing shows that for high mitigation, it's almost never proc'd (this could change in pvp where it could be the case that all dmg is massive) wow! did not know sojs could roll magic missile. thanks for the tip, sir =] I tried it out now on Asmodean, fact of the matter is that the damage is actually the same per second and that hence if you have 100000k over 6 seconds you'll do about 260000k damage. If you have 4 seconds higher blizzard damage on your oculus you actually do 260000+4/6*260000 or something similar. While the text sais what you say it's as always with "Blizzard" wrong thankfully enough ![]() | ||
FallDownMarigold
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KiWiKaKi
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ximae
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the ehp of the setup i posted is 480k or so with pa and 605K vs elites (players), if i switched the wailing host for a litany that 7% more damage reduction is 100k more ehp, so that is 705k ehp. i dont think a shield would put me much ahead of that and dps hit would be massive. i think im sticking with chants set. but i will go to d3up and check my stats switching th source for a shield in case im wrong, but i dont think im gona like the trade off. edit: did some numbers using a 1400 armour 80 ar 200 int 10cc shield, jumped my damage reduction to 92.7 using pa with a 45k dps hit. so that would be 630k ehp and 730k ehp vs elites. So its not worth it imho, in my case at least. i could be at a very similar ehp values with a minimal dps loss just switching from wailing host to litany. i could also use the litany with the shield which would make a 100k ehp difference. so as seen the shield is a 130k ehp boost in exchange for 45k dps where as 7% elite damage reduction is a 100k ehp gain with no dps reduction.... i think i know what im choosing, but it really is balancing ur toon for your specific needs. edit 2: shit just remembered that you can roll elite damage reduction on shields, so yeah a shield might be a good tradeoff if you add it in. So i guess my previous rant is sort of useless, it will just be a matter if i need the 130k ehp boost more than the 45k dps or if those mitigation levels are enough and its better to push dps from there on, as u still gotta kill the other guy too. | ||
b0yer8402
Canada17 Posts
I`m a noob and i want to change my gear ! What should i change FIRST or do to have better gear FAST! Thanks for posting ![]() p.s I got 500k :S | ||
dAPhREAk
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On December 22 2012 10:10 b0yer8402 wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/B0yer-1335/hero/1092300 I`m a noob and i want to change my gear ! What should i change FIRST or do to have better gear FAST! Thanks for posting ![]() p.s I got 500k :S weapon. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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for 500k you can up your dps a lotttt and then you should probably start playing archon ![]() | ||
FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
looking for a badboy with 250+ int, +armor, 65+ res all, 8+ CC, and +life regen. Dont care about the block % that much... | ||
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