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there will be a bump in old nat value as the patch approaches. people will look at the permagloom and forget about the bad stats and the increased ehp check imposed by players8.
you need to upgrade your pants to some innas though. if you do away with disc regen then vaulting around would not be that viable, so the extra movement speed is helpful.
if you are stacking crit chance, maybe get some dual wielding as your bow isn't that great and the quiver isn't with disc.
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oneofthem, thanks for your input 
What exactly would be a great bow then? By stacking crit damage pretty hard on my bow I get what I feel to be some pretty respectable dps output. And my understanding is that high end one hand bows really don't outproduce 2H crossbow + quiver combo atm. So I'd be curious to know exactly how you would make dual wielding work.
And as for movement speed, I 100% agree with you that I'll need some if I can't spam vault like I do now. But I was actually thinking of getting lacuni prowlers for that. 2-piece Inna's (pants+belt) can be a pretty sexy combo dps-wise but it nerfs survivability pretty hard, which is why I've kind of steered away from it.
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hmm, you'd gain 50 stat per socket on those pants, so i'd get some pants that have high vit, some dex and ar with sockets. those should not be too expensive especially with innas pushing them down.
the reason why i suggested dual wielding is that you are thinking of going 2x2 nat pieces. handbows can have 2 sockets, and also up to 200% crit dmg combined. however, i guess the 2 socket manticore also takes advantage of high crit chance, so it's not that big of an upgrade for possibly very very high cost.
maybe you should try out the nats for a while after patch and see how it holds up. the litany ring is much better than your mf ring right now, but you already knew that.
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Yeah only have mf ring on right now because I hate gear switching . And the more I think about it, while I seem to melt elites noticably faster with stone of Jordan, the resist and damage reduction of litany is going to be much better if I switch to something like inna's 2-piece set.
I might wait on switching out the nat's set it all depends on what kind of mood I'm in.
What do you think of using nightstalker as a passive for disc regen?
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never really tried nightstalker. everything dies too fast to regen that much disc for me. i think multishot - suppression is already enough disc regen to keep vaulting up constantly.
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My general impression of multishot is it's a bit UP unless you're heavily overgeared. But I'll definitely try it out
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yea, you definitely need to overgear the content to use multishot effectively. my multishot crits for about 350k so it wipes normal mobs at about 60% crit chance. it's a better clearing skill for now than lightning ball, but with the new player 8 thing, it may not be in the future.
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if you use nightstalker isn't ball lightning best as it offers more chances for crits? i haven't tried nightstalker much, but when i have the disc gain hasn't been impressive even with a decently high crit chance.
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Question, I got 70m right now, and 50% crit chance. Should I be aiming for the best 2 socket manticore I can find? Or should I try to get a 1400ish crit dmg socket XBOW, prices being comparable? I feel like the more crit dmg on the manticore is probably better for me with my crit chance.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MarshallD-1209/hero/1084764
edit: I'm sorry for the confusion, i meant a 1400ish crossbow w crit and socket.
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If u're serious about dealing damage, avoid bow. On my character screen I have 100k dps, but sometimes I crit for 80k...Moved from 46%crit chance to 53% and there's no visible difference in terms of killing speed.
Also, u'll be handicapped in terms of skill selection, since only ball lightning works well with bows. Go for manticore imo. I'm not using manticore mainly because I like the look of Windforce :p
My current set-up: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LaiShin-1641/hero/14057117
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Anyone feels like looking at my current set up and giving some pointers on where i could get some good upgrades in the 25-35 million gold range? 
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/McNulty-2847/hero/587219
Current DPS is 106k, 40,5% crit (shows only 35,5% in profile screen, why is that?), 310% crit dmg, and 44,5k HP. Feels like I could sacrifice some HP for more dex with possibly some all res.
Wondering about Nats boots + chest maybe, for the 7% more crit, but I guess thats not worth the 40 mill it costs...
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Hi guys, I would just like to ask how much all resist/hp is recommended for running act 3, i'm planning to reduce some of my all resist for dps if possible.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loire-6534/hero/1993039
i'm currently on a high mf build and can already run act 3 smoothly, my build changes depending on my mood on the days i play , any tips?
Also, i know that the MF cap is currently at 300% without NV, can someone please tell me whether the MF from my follower is affected by the cap? Many thanks
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On September 16 2012 03:53 Loire wrote:Hi guys, I would just like to ask how much all resist/hp is recommended for running act 3, i'm planning to reduce some of my all resist for dps if possible. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loire-6534/hero/1993039i'm currently on a high mf build and can already run act 3 smoothly, my build changes depending on my mood on the days i play  , any tips? Also, i know that the MF cap is currently at 300% without NV, can someone please tell me whether the MF from my follower is affected by the cap? Many thanks 
Your follower's MF is affected by this cap. There's no way to get above 300% (375% with NV).
I am able to run act 3 smoothly with 30k hp and 160 AR 85k dps. I would be a bit more comfortable with 200 AR since phase beasts can sometimes 1 hit me when my gloom is down.
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On September 15 2012 20:02 McNulty wrote:Anyone feels like looking at my current set up and giving some pointers on where i could get some good upgrades in the 25-35 million gold range? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/McNulty-2847/hero/587219Current DPS is 106k, 40,5% crit (shows only 35,5% in profile screen, why is that?), 310% crit dmg, and 44,5k HP. Feels like I could sacrifice some HP for more dex with possibly some all res. Wondering about Nats boots + chest maybe, for the 7% more crit, but I guess thats not worth the 40 mill it costs... i think you are at a point where you should be looking at some of the uniques and sets to get upgrades. i'd go with innas pants or nat cloak+boots.
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On September 16 2012 04:40 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 03:53 Loire wrote:Hi guys, I would just like to ask how much all resist/hp is recommended for running act 3, i'm planning to reduce some of my all resist for dps if possible. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loire-6534/hero/1993039i'm currently on a high mf build and can already run act 3 smoothly, my build changes depending on my mood on the days i play  , any tips? Also, i know that the MF cap is currently at 300% without NV, can someone please tell me whether the MF from my follower is affected by the cap? Many thanks  Your follower's MF is affected by this cap. There's no way to get above 300% (375% with NV).
MF from followers let's u go over the "cap" for now. Probably be fixed by next patch/hotfix though.
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On September 15 2012 20:02 McNulty wrote:Anyone feels like looking at my current set up and giving some pointers on where i could get some good upgrades in the 25-35 million gold range? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/McNulty-2847/hero/587219Current DPS is 106k, 40,5% crit (shows only 35,5% in profile screen, why is that?), 310% crit dmg, and 44,5k HP. Feels like I could sacrifice some HP for more dex with possibly some all res. Wondering about Nats boots + chest maybe, for the 7% more crit, but I guess thats not worth the 40 mill it costs...
Don't often bump my own posts, but still wondering about this. =)
Found Lacunis with 76 dex 9 ias 3,5 crit yesterday (first decent item in 20 paragon levels, yey), so switched out my shoes for ones with higher DEX but without movement speed. Brings me up to 110k DPS, 114k with Scoundrel. Still looking for places to spend 30-40 mill for some decent upgrades.
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On September 16 2012 23:40 McNulty wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 20:02 McNulty wrote:Anyone feels like looking at my current set up and giving some pointers on where i could get some good upgrades in the 25-35 million gold range? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/McNulty-2847/hero/587219Current DPS is 106k, 40,5% crit (shows only 35,5% in profile screen, why is that?), 310% crit dmg, and 44,5k HP. Feels like I could sacrifice some HP for more dex with possibly some all res. Wondering about Nats boots + chest maybe, for the 7% more crit, but I guess thats not worth the 40 mill it costs... Don't often bump my own posts, but still wondering about this. =) Found Lacunis with 76 dex 9 ias 3,5 crit yesterday (first decent item in 20 paragon levels, yey), so switched out my shoes for ones with higher DEX but without movement speed. Brings me up to 110k DPS, 114k with Scoundrel. Still looking for places to spend 30-40 mill for some decent upgrades.
Your shoulders and pants can be easily upgraded. At this point I wouldn't worry about upgrades anymore, I would go for endgame items instead. Look up whatever endgame legendaries you want to go for, and save up for one. Decently statted endgame items go for 40+ mil a piece.
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Hmm yeah, those are pretty "basic" items, with just high dex and vit. You are thinking of dex / vit / all ress i guess?
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On September 16 2012 13:32 LaiShin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2012 04:40 Chairman Ray wrote:On September 16 2012 03:53 Loire wrote:Hi guys, I would just like to ask how much all resist/hp is recommended for running act 3, i'm planning to reduce some of my all resist for dps if possible. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loire-6534/hero/1993039i'm currently on a high mf build and can already run act 3 smoothly, my build changes depending on my mood on the days i play  , any tips? Also, i know that the MF cap is currently at 300% without NV, can someone please tell me whether the MF from my follower is affected by the cap? Many thanks  Your follower's MF is affected by this cap. There's no way to get above 300% (375% with NV). MF from followers let's u go over the "cap" for now. Probably be fixed by next patch/hotfix though.
? Pretty sure Blizz said it was intended.
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Hey guys, I'm going to play my DH again, but considering the new patch is coming out soon, do you think I should buy the legacy nats set or the new nats set? The price of nats mark is ridiculously inflated right now...@_@, is the +2 disc regen really that good, or can i achieve similar survivability with the new nats set?
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