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gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 18:48:22
August 26 2012 05:45 GMT
#2761
edited
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 06:48:27
August 26 2012 05:51 GMT
#2762
So umm, rakanoth is harder than ghom was pre patch, great :/

Anyone got pro 1337 h4x tips cos ive died over 70 times now :''(((
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 26 2012 07:00 GMT
#2763
On August 26 2012 14:51 Phenny wrote:
So umm, rakanoth is harder than ghom was pre patch, great :/

Anyone got pro 1337 h4x tips cos ive died over 70 times now :''(((


Unless they changed anything with Rakanoth, you can do it by using stuns. I killed Rakanoth back when I had 20k dps. I went on the AH and bought a pair of cheap xbox, and stacked attack speed. I used grenades and cluster arrow, both with the stun rune. Keep spanning grenades until the stun doesn't proc in time, at which time you use cluster arrow. Impale will probably work as well. Basically you just wanna keep Rakanoth permastunned. It took me like 10 tries since my dps was too low.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
August 26 2012 07:34 GMT
#2764
On August 26 2012 16:00 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 14:51 Phenny wrote:
So umm, rakanoth is harder than ghom was pre patch, great :/

Anyone got pro 1337 h4x tips cos ive died over 70 times now :''(((


Unless they changed anything with Rakanoth, you can do it by using stuns. I killed Rakanoth back when I had 20k dps. I went on the AH and bought a pair of cheap xbox, and stacked attack speed. I used grenades and cluster arrow, both with the stun rune. Keep spanning grenades until the stun doesn't proc in time, at which time you use cluster arrow. Impale will probably work as well. Basically you just wanna keep Rakanoth permastunned. It took me like 10 tries since my dps was too low.


My health was too low for that to work, cheers for the suggestion though. I ended up just using loaded for bear and the 6 hatred regen entangling and got him in like 4 goes.

Can't believe I didnt think of it sooner lol.
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:09:13
August 26 2012 10:05 GMT
#2765
On August 26 2012 14:45 gutshot wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gutshot-1242/hero/1475473

I would like to get help on gear settings as well, my goal is to hit 110k~120k dps and i have about 80m
do you guys think its possible with such budget?

Hey bro, my DPS is in that range, some differences when I compare our gear is:
- CC: 38 to 32 (i do have nats for the 7% extra - also which follower are you using btw? and i have both rings with CC)
- CD: 266 to 256 pretty much the same there
- Dex: 2317 to 1591 - this is biggest difference (I approximately have way more dex on, shoulders +110, ammie +70 and +50 crit damage, gloves +90, bracers +80, weapon +180, quiver +100, and nats set +130 bonus and my gems are level higher than yours)
- AS: I also have AS on gloves.

I also note that you have 100+ more dps on your weapon than me, but i have the +180dex, 10 attack speed and 10 more crit damage on mine.

Not sure what you should do first, but should try to get CC on your other wring also, and your quiver should be upgraded as well also. Pants with no sockets is also robbing you a bit of dex from gems. I know you're also stacking magic find so this makes it a little harder for you to upgrade gear if you want to keep your MF up. With your budget to maintain MF and getting better gear you'll have to sacrifice a bit of MF to get better gear.

If it was my gear I'd prob try to get pants with sockets while mainting the current stats on those and getting a better quiver as a first port of call. Hope this helps.

d(O_O)b
ChaZzza
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom162 Posts
August 26 2012 10:44 GMT
#2766
Hello you lovely people!

My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve?

Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want!
"We can't whine, we can't do shit, just fucking play," EE-sama
McNulty
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway184 Posts
August 26 2012 13:24 GMT
#2767
Anyone able to link me simple calculator which lets me compare DPS gain from weapons im considering buying? I have 217 DEX on my current 1250 DPS X-bow, and would like to know how much i gain/lose with lets say 1350 DPS 80% crit Xbow.

Also probably mentioned before, but since I haven't seen it:

Of those using Evasive Fire / Covering, have you noticed that when you are standing up against a wall, shooting at an enemy that's so close it makes you Vault, the "attack timer" seems to reset. Basically instead of having 1,2 attack speed, i shoot atleast twice a second as long as the enemy is close enough to make me vault.

Don't know if I explained it well enough but I guess you will understand.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
August 26 2012 13:48 GMT
#2768
On August 26 2012 22:24 McNulty wrote:
Anyone able to link me simple calculator which lets me compare DPS gain from weapons im considering buying? I have 217 DEX on my current 1250 DPS X-bow, and would like to know how much i gain/lose with lets say 1350 DPS 80% crit Xbow.

Also probably mentioned before, but since I haven't seen it:

Of those using Evasive Fire / Covering, have you noticed that when you are standing up against a wall, shooting at an enemy that's so close it makes you Vault, the "attack timer" seems to reset. Basically instead of having 1,2 attack speed, i shoot atleast twice a second as long as the enemy is close enough to make me vault.

Don't know if I explained it well enough but I guess you will understand.


Here you go:

http://diablodamagecalculator.com/index.php?wep_dmg_min=397&wep_dmg_max=813&wep_spd=1.48&primary_stat=1997&skill_bon=15&atk_spd_bon=7&crit_chance=29.5&crit_dmg=207&item_dmg_min=82&item_dmg_max=250
nappiiboii
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States27 Posts
August 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#2769
Could someone tell me what i should upgrade, i only have 1 mil right now but that's being worked on right now.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rorizon-1408/hero/5103527
p.s. I usually run w a tank barb
thanks
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#2770
On August 27 2012 07:40 nappiiboii wrote:
Could someone tell me what i should upgrade, i only have 1 mil right now but that's being worked on right now.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rorizon-1408/hero/5103527
p.s. I usually run w a tank barb
thanks


Upgrade your chest to something with 3 sockets and you can easily get 200 Dex in that spot. Also your rings need upgraded with Crit Damage, Chance, and Dex. Start there and then get a new weapon with a socket and a green gem.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 03:15:30
August 27 2012 03:13 GMT
#2771
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote:
Hello you lovely people!

My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve?

Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want!

I reckon you're definitely able to do Act 3. The key to avoid getting 1-shot is to use gloom alot. With that in mind, I would advice you to upgrade your chest + quiver to items with at least 8+ discipline. Of course, everything can be upgraded but I would concentrate on those 2 first and you'll see your survivalbility sky-rocket.

Also, you can consider using cluster arrow instead of ball lighting.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
August 27 2012 07:46 GMT
#2772
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote:
Hello you lovely people!

My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve?

Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want!

The others have covered most of it but it would help a lot to get something like another 100 resists (mostly physical/fire) and vit if you can afford it. Gloom isn't that strong if you don't have much reduction to begin with and more survivability would give you a lot more breathing room.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
August 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#2773
Ok, why does my DH suck:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HardlyNever-1891/hero/2850485

A few things to keep in mind:

-I know my build is "non-standard" or "suboptimal," but I'm trying to get it to work reasonably well. I not 100% wedded to every part of it, but I want to keep the hatred generator and spender for now and the general slow/kite theme going, as I like trying other builds.

-This is an "alt," and I have a monk that farms act 3 with basically no issues, so farming/getting gear isn't a big problem. All my good dex gems are on the monk.

-I feel like my damage is pretty low (might be mostly because of my build). Perhaps too much of my survival-mindedness from the monk has carried over, and I'm sacrificing too much damage for protection (I have about 300 AR). I have some options in the stash to up my dps to over 50k, but I lose about 100 AR and some health (which is already pretty low).

Any insight, within the context of trying to keep the build working, would be great. If this build is just complete trash, I might just try to out-gear it or something. Right now I can do act 2 pretty easily, but act 3 is pretty hard. What should I be looking to upgrade?
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#2774
^^ had a quick look, seems like your chance to critical hit, is round abouts 17%,including archery? That seems kind of low, especially because your putting a passive skill into it, and it is still very chancy, and hence your not getting the best out of your 256% crit damage.

And act 3 has a ton of fast moving stuff, even when slowed, in addition as dh you need to move constantly because no matter how tanky you are there's only so many hits you can take.Your spender,rapid fire,needs you to stand in a position and fire for a certain period, so it automatically doesnt translate well. It's good if your way op and can easily shred them down, but not otherwise.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
August 27 2012 08:27 GMT
#2775
On August 27 2012 16:46 Ig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote:
Hello you lovely people!

My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve?

Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want!

The others have covered most of it but it would help a lot to get something like another 100 resists (mostly physical/fire) and vit if you can afford it. Gloom isn't that strong if you don't have much reduction to begin with and more survivability would give you a lot more breathing room.

I disagree... Chazzza already has 250 AR and that is sufficient with Gloom (in fact, 150-200 is already enough). I would advice instead to get higher DPS instead of the 100 AR. Also, see my previous post about getting more Disc first.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
August 27 2012 08:30 GMT
#2776
On August 27 2012 17:04 HardlyNever wrote:
Ok, why does my DH suck:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HardlyNever-1891/hero/2850485

A few things to keep in mind:

-I know my build is "non-standard" or "suboptimal," but I'm trying to get it to work reasonably well. I not 100% wedded to every part of it, but I want to keep the hatred generator and spender for now and the general slow/kite theme going, as I like trying other builds.

-This is an "alt," and I have a monk that farms act 3 with basically no issues, so farming/getting gear isn't a big problem. All my good dex gems are on the monk.

-I feel like my damage is pretty low (might be mostly because of my build). Perhaps too much of my survival-mindedness from the monk has carried over, and I'm sacrificing too much damage for protection (I have about 300 AR). I have some options in the stash to up my dps to over 50k, but I lose about 100 AR and some health (which is already pretty low).

Any insight, within the context of trying to keep the build working, would be great. If this build is just complete trash, I might just try to out-gear it or something. Right now I can do act 2 pretty easily, but act 3 is pretty hard. What should I be looking to upgrade?

It'll probably be hard to get advice since most DHs play a more conventional style of 2h xbow + quiver with burst damage. I guess the only thing I can comment is that if you're already having trouble surviving, Fan of Knives is probably not a good choice.

Another thing I heard about dual-wielding is that +damage (on rings/amulets) helps alot but I don't have the source and am unable to verify this.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:51:30
August 27 2012 08:48 GMT
#2777
Got to lvl 60 the other day (played Witch Doctor before this). Geared up on the cheap (<250k) and was able to farm the shit out of Act 1 for basically 2 days. Upgraded and now working through Act 2. Seems like Act 2 is not a good place farm-wise for a Demon Hunter is that right?

This is my DH: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780

Think I should just try farming in Act 3? I'm also wondering which gear slot I should prioritise upgrading (probably rings and amulet I'm thinking).
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6100 Posts
August 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#2778
How do you deal against reflect damage with no LoH?
#1 Terran hater
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
August 27 2012 09:22 GMT
#2779
On August 27 2012 18:09 Highways wrote:
How do you deal against reflect damage with no LoH?

You've got 3 options:
1) Shadow Power: Gloom rune (recommended).
2) SS if your DPS is high enough.
3) Mobs don't heal to full now, so you can zone in/out.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 10:10:42
August 27 2012 09:53 GMT
#2780
On August 27 2012 17:27 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:46 Ig wrote:
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote:
Hello you lovely people!

My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve?

Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want!

The others have covered most of it but it would help a lot to get something like another 100 resists (mostly physical/fire) and vit if you can afford it. Gloom isn't that strong if you don't have much reduction to begin with and more survivability would give you a lot more breathing room.

I disagree... Chazzza already has 250 AR and that is sufficient with Gloom (in fact, 150-200 is already enough). I would advice instead to get higher DPS instead of the 100 AR. Also, see my previous post about getting more Disc first.

If he's getting one shot by the little non-elites he'll want to at least up his physical resist or no amount of disc will save him against jailer ranged/fast or other annoying packs. I agree with disc on quiver as its cheap and easy to get, but not disc on chest because its above what you need for a 3x gloom/ss cycle and usually comes as a tradeoff for AR or even dex/vit (unless you get lucky or have a higher budget). Its really not worth it unless you're desperate for disc for some reason. He also simply doesn't have the dps to ignore survivability upgrades yet.

On August 27 2012 17:48 Entropic wrote:
Got to lvl 60 the other day (played Witch Doctor before this). Geared up on the cheap (<250k) and was able to farm the shit out of Act 1 for basically 2 days. Upgraded and now working through Act 2. Seems like Act 2 is not a good place farm-wise for a Demon Hunter is that right?

This is my DH: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780

Think I should just try farming in Act 3? I'm also wondering which gear slot I should prioritise upgrading (probably rings and amulet I'm thinking).

Act 2 isn't necessarily a bad place to farm but the cheesy mobs can screw over DHs with lower survivability and some mobs are just plain annoying so people usually stick with Act 1 until they can do Act 3. Your dps is on the low side if you want to try Act 3 and you'll probably (I personally don't like glass cannon/weaker defense setups) want 200 AR and some more physical on top of that so you don't get one shot by anything outside of gloom. I wouldn't recommend Act 3 yet in your gear but once you up your crit damage and resists you can definitely give it a shot.

For your gear, you want to get some crit chance on your rings and crit damage on your amulet and gloves. A little more crit and a lot more dex shouldn't be too expensive on quiver these days either and you can probably get a significant upgrade cheap. Try to find a socketed helm for paragon exp (and life% if you really need it) if you can too.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
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