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gutshot
United States429 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
Anyone got pro 1337 h4x tips cos ive died over 70 times now :''((( | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On August 26 2012 14:51 Phenny wrote: So umm, rakanoth is harder than ghom was pre patch, great :/ Anyone got pro 1337 h4x tips cos ive died over 70 times now :''((( Unless they changed anything with Rakanoth, you can do it by using stuns. I killed Rakanoth back when I had 20k dps. I went on the AH and bought a pair of cheap xbox, and stacked attack speed. I used grenades and cluster arrow, both with the stun rune. Keep spanning grenades until the stun doesn't proc in time, at which time you use cluster arrow. Impale will probably work as well. Basically you just wanna keep Rakanoth permastunned. It took me like 10 tries since my dps was too low. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On August 26 2012 16:00 Chairman Ray wrote: Unless they changed anything with Rakanoth, you can do it by using stuns. I killed Rakanoth back when I had 20k dps. I went on the AH and bought a pair of cheap xbox, and stacked attack speed. I used grenades and cluster arrow, both with the stun rune. Keep spanning grenades until the stun doesn't proc in time, at which time you use cluster arrow. Impale will probably work as well. Basically you just wanna keep Rakanoth permastunned. It took me like 10 tries since my dps was too low. My health was too low for that to work, cheers for the suggestion though. I ended up just using loaded for bear and the 6 hatred regen entangling and got him in like 4 goes. Can't believe I didnt think of it sooner lol. | ||
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crisiscore
Australia72 Posts
On August 26 2012 14:45 gutshot wrote: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/gutshot-1242/hero/1475473 I would like to get help on gear settings as well, my goal is to hit 110k~120k dps and i have about 80m do you guys think its possible with such budget?  Hey bro, my DPS is in that range, some differences when I compare our gear is: - CC: 38 to 32 (i do have nats for the 7% extra - also which follower are you using btw? and i have both rings with CC) - CD: 266 to 256 pretty much the same there - Dex: 2317 to 1591 - this is biggest difference (I approximately have way more dex on, shoulders +110, ammie +70 and +50 crit damage, gloves +90, bracers +80, weapon +180, quiver +100, and nats set +130 bonus and my gems are level higher than yours) - AS: I also have AS on gloves. I also note that you have 100+ more dps on your weapon than me, but i have the +180dex, 10 attack speed and 10 more crit damage on mine. Not sure what you should do first, but should try to get CC on your other wring also, and your quiver should be upgraded as well also. Pants with no sockets is also robbing you a bit of dex from gems. I know you're also stacking magic find so this makes it a little harder for you to upgrade gear if you want to keep your MF up. With your budget to maintain MF and getting better gear you'll have to sacrifice a bit of MF to get better gear. If it was my gear I'd prob try to get pants with sockets while mainting the current stats on those and getting a better quiver as a first port of call. Hope this helps. | ||
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ChaZzza
United Kingdom162 Posts
My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve? Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want! | ||
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McNulty
Norway184 Posts
Also probably mentioned before, but since I haven't seen it: Of those using Evasive Fire / Covering, have you noticed that when you are standing up against a wall, shooting at an enemy that's so close it makes you Vault, the "attack timer" seems to reset. Basically instead of having 1,2 attack speed, i shoot atleast twice a second as long as the enemy is close enough to make me vault. Don't know if I explained it well enough but I guess you will understand.  | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On August 26 2012 22:24 McNulty wrote: Anyone able to link me simple calculator which lets me compare DPS gain from weapons im considering buying? I have 217 DEX on my current 1250 DPS X-bow, and would like to know how much i gain/lose with lets say 1350 DPS 80% crit Xbow. Also probably mentioned before, but since I haven't seen it: Of those using Evasive Fire / Covering, have you noticed that when you are standing up against a wall, shooting at an enemy that's so close it makes you Vault, the "attack timer" seems to reset. Basically instead of having 1,2 attack speed, i shoot atleast twice a second as long as the enemy is close enough to make me vault. Don't know if I explained it well enough but I guess you will understand. Here you go: http://diablodamagecalculator.com/index.php?wep_dmg_min=397&wep_dmg_max=813&wep_spd=1.48&primary_stat=1997&skill_bon=15&atk_spd_bon=7&crit_chance=29.5&crit_dmg=207&item_dmg_min=82&item_dmg_max=250 | ||
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nappiiboii
United States27 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rorizon-1408/hero/5103527 p.s. I usually run w a tank barb thanks | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On August 27 2012 07:40 nappiiboii wrote: Could someone tell me what i should upgrade, i only have 1 mil right now but that's being worked on right now. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rorizon-1408/hero/5103527 p.s. I usually run w a tank barb thanks Upgrade your chest to something with 3 sockets and you can easily get 200 Dex in that spot. Also your rings need upgraded with Crit Damage, Chance, and Dex. Start there and then get a new weapon with a socket and a green gem. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote: Hello you lovely people! My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve? Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want! I reckon you're definitely able to do Act 3. The key to avoid getting 1-shot is to use gloom alot. With that in mind, I would advice you to upgrade your chest + quiver to items with at least 8+ discipline. Of course, everything can be upgraded but I would concentrate on those 2 first and you'll see your survivalbility sky-rocket. Also, you can consider using cluster arrow instead of ball lighting. | ||
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On August 26 2012 19:44 ChaZzza wrote: Hello you lovely people! My DH is not quite Act 3 worthy as my damage is a little too low and I get 1 shot by everything including crawlers and critters like that. Now, I'm by no means a hardcore player and tend to smoke/drink/think/chat while playing so my question is of course: what do you think I need to improve? Also, am always up for a bit of coop play so add me if u want! The others have covered most of it but it would help a lot to get something like another 100 resists (mostly physical/fire) and vit if you can afford it. Gloom isn't that strong if you don't have much reduction to begin with and more survivability would give you a lot more breathing room. | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HardlyNever-1891/hero/2850485 A few things to keep in mind: -I know my build is "non-standard" or "suboptimal," but I'm trying to get it to work reasonably well. I not 100% wedded to every part of it, but I want to keep the hatred generator and spender for now and the general slow/kite theme going, as I like trying other builds. -This is an "alt," and I have a monk that farms act 3 with basically no issues, so farming/getting gear isn't a big problem. All my good dex gems are on the monk. -I feel like my damage is pretty low (might be mostly because of my build). Perhaps too much of my survival-mindedness from the monk has carried over, and I'm sacrificing too much damage for protection (I have about 300 AR). I have some options in the stash to up my dps to over 50k, but I lose about 100 AR and some health (which is already pretty low). Any insight, within the context of trying to keep the build working, would be great. If this build is just complete trash, I might just try to out-gear it or something. Right now I can do act 2 pretty easily, but act 3 is pretty hard. What should I be looking to upgrade? | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
And act 3 has a ton of fast moving stuff, even when slowed, in addition as dh you need to move constantly because no matter how tanky you are there's only so many hits you can take.Your spender,rapid fire,needs you to stand in a position and fire for a certain period, so it automatically doesnt translate well. It's good if your way op and can easily shred them down, but not otherwise. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On August 27 2012 16:46 Ig wrote: The others have covered most of it but it would help a lot to get something like another 100 resists (mostly physical/fire) and vit if you can afford it. Gloom isn't that strong if you don't have much reduction to begin with and more survivability would give you a lot more breathing room. I disagree... Chazzza already has 250 AR and that is sufficient with Gloom (in fact, 150-200 is already enough). I would advice instead to get higher DPS instead of the 100 AR. Also, see my previous post about getting more Disc first. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On August 27 2012 17:04 HardlyNever wrote: Ok, why does my DH suck: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HardlyNever-1891/hero/2850485 A few things to keep in mind: -I know my build is "non-standard" or "suboptimal," but I'm trying to get it to work reasonably well. I not 100% wedded to every part of it, but I want to keep the hatred generator and spender for now and the general slow/kite theme going, as I like trying other builds. -This is an "alt," and I have a monk that farms act 3 with basically no issues, so farming/getting gear isn't a big problem. All my good dex gems are on the monk. -I feel like my damage is pretty low (might be mostly because of my build). Perhaps too much of my survival-mindedness from the monk has carried over, and I'm sacrificing too much damage for protection (I have about 300 AR). I have some options in the stash to up my dps to over 50k, but I lose about 100 AR and some health (which is already pretty low). Any insight, within the context of trying to keep the build working, would be great. If this build is just complete trash, I might just try to out-gear it or something. Right now I can do act 2 pretty easily, but act 3 is pretty hard. What should I be looking to upgrade? It'll probably be hard to get advice since most DHs play a more conventional style of 2h xbow + quiver with burst damage. I guess the only thing I can comment is that if you're already having trouble surviving, Fan of Knives is probably not a good choice. Another thing I heard about dual-wielding is that +damage (on rings/amulets) helps alot but I don't have the source and am unable to verify this. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
This is my DH: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780 Think I should just try farming in Act 3? I'm also wondering which gear slot I should prioritise upgrading (probably rings and amulet I'm thinking). | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On August 27 2012 18:09 Highways wrote: How do you deal against reflect damage with no LoH? You've got 3 options: 1) Shadow Power: Gloom rune (recommended). 2) SS if your DPS is high enough. 3) Mobs don't heal to full now, so you can zone in/out. | ||
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Ig
United States417 Posts
On August 27 2012 17:27 Azzur wrote: I disagree... Chazzza already has 250 AR and that is sufficient with Gloom (in fact, 150-200 is already enough). I would advice instead to get higher DPS instead of the 100 AR. Also, see my previous post about getting more Disc first. If he's getting one shot by the little non-elites he'll want to at least up his physical resist or no amount of disc will save him against jailer ranged/fast or other annoying packs. I agree with disc on quiver as its cheap and easy to get, but not disc on chest because its above what you need for a 3x gloom/ss cycle and usually comes as a tradeoff for AR or even dex/vit (unless you get lucky or have a higher budget). Its really not worth it unless you're desperate for disc for some reason. He also simply doesn't have the dps to ignore survivability upgrades yet. On August 27 2012 17:48 Entropic wrote: Got to lvl 60 the other day (played Witch Doctor before this). Geared up on the cheap (<250k) and was able to farm the shit out of Act 1 for basically 2 days. Upgraded and now working through Act 2. Seems like Act 2 is not a good place farm-wise for a Demon Hunter is that right? This is my DH: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Entr0pic-1555/hero/20850780 Think I should just try farming in Act 3? I'm also wondering which gear slot I should prioritise upgrading (probably rings and amulet I'm thinking). Act 2 isn't necessarily a bad place to farm but the cheesy mobs can screw over DHs with lower survivability and some mobs are just plain annoying so people usually stick with Act 1 until they can do Act 3. Your dps is on the low side if you want to try Act 3 and you'll probably (I personally don't like glass cannon/weaker defense setups) want 200 AR and some more physical on top of that so you don't get one shot by anything outside of gloom. I wouldn't recommend Act 3 yet in your gear but once you up your crit damage and resists you can definitely give it a shot. For your gear, you want to get some crit chance on your rings and crit damage on your amulet and gloves. A little more crit and a lot more dex shouldn't be too expensive on quiver these days either and you can probably get a significant upgrade cheap. Try to find a socketed helm for paragon exp (and life% if you really need it) if you can too. | ||
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