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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 23 2012 17:50 GMT
#2721
i vaulted through act 2 and 3, and the difference is that in act 2 you don't have to fire a single arrow, while in act 3 you might have to. occasionally.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
MysticaL
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada118 Posts
August 23 2012 19:25 GMT
#2722
lol yeah you barely need to use your generator, I just use (LFB + vengeance) & vault cinder rune, by the time you AOE everything down with LFB, then use your disc with vengeance, you collected enough health globes to spam more LFB
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
August 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#2723
Wish I had the old 4pc nat's set so I could take advantage of this while it's around.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 23 2012 21:11 GMT
#2724
On August 24 2012 04:25 MysticaL wrote:
lol yeah you barely need to use your generator, I just use (LFB + vengeance) & vault cinder rune, by the time you AOE everything down with LFB, then use your disc with vengeance, you collected enough health globes to spam more LFB

i have this random +1k life per kill from somewhere and it manages to keep me up as i vault through masses of scorpions and the like
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 23 2012 22:05 GMT
#2725
Yay, I beat inferno Diablo today! After slaying Ghom a couple days ago, it was pretty much smooth sailing with 50k dps, 28k hp and ~450 all res. The new 1500% damage vault is very strong indeed, but I didn't use it offensively much. Without Nat's set I just run out of discipline too quickly, even with the Nightstalker passive. The guy in the video has 100k dps and regenerates discipline, so of course it's overly powerful with that.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#2726
i hope to god they will nerf the rune rather than nat set.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
August 23 2012 22:36 GMT
#2727
On August 24 2012 07:23 oneofthem wrote:
i hope to god they will nerf the rune rather than nat set.



I have a nat set as well but i can't possibly imagine how they will keep 2 disc/s in PVP.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#2728
On August 24 2012 07:36 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 07:23 oneofthem wrote:
i hope to god they will nerf the rune rather than nat set.



I have a nat set as well but i can't possibly imagine how they will keep 2 disc/s in PVP.


Easy. Never release PVP never nerf
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
August 24 2012 02:35 GMT
#2729
Haha, we know a skill is OP when even the DHs are saying that it is and predicting it's nerf :p
gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
August 24 2012 03:52 GMT
#2730
I think I am missing a lot of survivability to feel the OPness as I have literally no resist. I am dying way too often trying to vault around =/

Should I just completely give up on magic find on my gears? if I could get like 300 all resist I think I can use the vault very well even though I dont have the old nats set. I obviously can't afford both mf and ar, what do you guys suggest?
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#2731
It's not really Trail of Cinders that's broken but rather the 2 Disc Regen from the old Nat's set.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 04:23:39
August 24 2012 04:14 GMT
#2732
On August 24 2012 12:52 gutshot wrote:
I think I am missing a lot of survivability to feel the OPness as I have literally no resist. I am dying way too often trying to vault around =/

Should I just completely give up on magic find on my gears? if I could get like 300 all resist I think I can use the vault very well even though I dont have the old nats set. I obviously can't afford both mf and ar, what do you guys suggest?

Do you have 4p (old) nat's set? If you don't, then it's not really possible to vault around like all the DHs are doing. Trail of Cinders is still very powerful even without 4p, but you have to do the kiting method and not the crazy stuff DHs are doing now. In other words, it's not really resists that is the issue, because gloom can keep you alive against practically anything, but more of a lack-of-disc issue. Also, having high DPS helps immensely, so you kill the mobs fast enough.

For some bosses (e.g. Cyndaea and Azmodan), even though 4p, it's possible to vault past them using ToC
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 24 2012 06:16 GMT
#2733
On August 24 2012 12:52 gutshot wrote:
I think I am missing a lot of survivability to feel the OPness as I have literally no resist. I am dying way too often trying to vault around =/

Should I just completely give up on magic find on my gears? if I could get like 300 all resist I think I can use the vault very well even though I dont have the old nats set. I obviously can't afford both mf and ar, what do you guys suggest?

you can get cheap resist on belt, boots, shoulders and rings.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:08:02
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#2734
I'm having lots of fun since the patch hit.

my elite encounters go like this (I'm currently in a1 inferno)
- vault 2 to 3 times (with trail of cinders)
- spawn caltrops (tort. ground)
- hit preparation
- vault again
- watch everything die
- collect loot.

It will get nerfed, but I'll enjoy the time until this will happen My gear is average.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
August 24 2012 13:08 GMT
#2735
If anyone fancies taking a look at my crappy DH gear and making some suggestions that would be appreciatted
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 24 2012 14:45 GMT
#2736
On August 24 2012 13:14 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 12:52 gutshot wrote:
I think I am missing a lot of survivability to feel the OPness as I have literally no resist. I am dying way too often trying to vault around =/

Should I just completely give up on magic find on my gears? if I could get like 300 all resist I think I can use the vault very well even though I dont have the old nats set. I obviously can't afford both mf and ar, what do you guys suggest?

Do you have 4p (old) nat's set? If you don't, then it's not really possible to vault around like all the DHs are doing. Trail of Cinders is still very powerful even without 4p, but you have to do the kiting method and not the crazy stuff DHs are doing now. In other words, it's not really resists that is the issue, because gloom can keep you alive against practically anything, but more of a lack-of-disc issue. Also, having high DPS helps immensely, so you kill the mobs fast enough.

For some bosses (e.g. Cyndaea and Azmodan), even though 4p, it's possible to vault past them using ToC


I switched to bola shot (bitter pill) yesterday in an attempt to regen disc faster. Mobs are uncooperative enough that sometimes it's easier to just cluster arrow/bola shot them instead of vaulting around. I don't have Nat's set, either. I mainly use vault against elite and champion packs.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 24 2012 15:01 GMT
#2737
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Unkk-2615/hero/17088619

Can i safely farm act 2 with this? Could use some input. I can skimp on the MF and gain slight amounts of vit and maybe 3-4k more dps.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 15:18:15
August 24 2012 15:16 GMT
#2738
act 2 has a lot of crazy damage elements such as the fire skeletal constructs, poison from environment, jumping fire chain huntresses etc etc etc. you are better off staying in a1.

you could try using trail of cinders to keep distance to some of the nasty mobs and make them chase you. depends on how much risk you want to assume
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
August 24 2012 17:14 GMT
#2739
On August 24 2012 22:08 Nallen wrote:
If anyone fancies taking a look at my crappy DH gear and making some suggestions that would be appreciatted

Upgrade your shoulders obviously, your armor is low so perhaps look at just dex/vit/armor or if you can get some all resist here so you can drop the all resist on your bracers and get a cheap upgrade there, either just more dex+vit or more dex+armor+crit. Helmet would also be cheap to upgrade, get one with a socket so you can put your choice of mf, hp, or exp in it. Get crit damage on your gloves and I don't know how you feel about dropping the mf on your amulet, but crit damage on your amulet would give you a big dps boost. And invest in a better weapon.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
August 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#2740
On August 24 2012 22:08 Nallen wrote:
If anyone fancies taking a look at my crappy DH gear and making some suggestions that would be appreciatted

I advice you to only get around 120ish AR with around 25k HP. The rest should be dex/crit dmg/crit%. With 120 AR, you can use gloom to safely take dmg and farm Act2.
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