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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 22 2012 08:16 GMT
#2701
On August 22 2012 11:18 SirKibbleX wrote:
I hate to ask such a broad question, but I haven't played in like 6 months (before RMAH), and a lot of stuff seems to have changed. First, I don't really have much gold (200k) and I never really cleared A2 Inferno. What is an extra-cheap build and raiding target? What stats should I focus on once I start gearing up? Also I wanted to post a Screenshot of my buid/stats but i can't seem to take a screenshot in game. Where do the screenshots I take go?

Thanks for all the help guys.


Screenshots go to My Documents/Diablo 3/Screenshots, at least if you install everything the normal way on Win7.

This is a fairly standard build, though there's some leeway with rune choices. I personally don't use it, but I won't pretend my personal build is optimal or anything.

Hungering Arrow: Use Shatter Shot until you have a fairly high crit rate (30-40, I think). Spray of Teeth becomes better once you're critting a lot.

Caltrops: Some people use Bait the Trap or Carved Stakes, I guess this is somewhat subjective.

Vault: I think Tumble is the best, if only for the fact that it's so useful for covering ground while running past white mobs... vault once, wait about five seconds, then vault again, and you're covering ground hilariously fast without your discipline dipping dangerously low. Experiment with Trail of Cinders, too, though... 1500% weapon damage is hilarious and probably going to be nerfed.

Preparation: I think Backup Plan is the most popular, though I personally hate it (I don't like leaving stuff up to chance). Focused Mind and Battle Scars also see a fair bit of use, and I personally think Battle Scars is really good for undergeared players because it gives you a massively useful "ohshi-" button.

Smoke Screen: You need Smoke Screen. Lingering Fog is pretty much the clear favorite, here.

Tactical Advantage/Archery: They're just plain good, fairly self-explanatory.

Steady Aim: Use this if your crit chance is above 25-30%, otherwise use Sharpshooter. Sharpshooter stops being useful when you're critting a lot (since it resets every time you crit and is therefore somewhat useless once you're critting consistently), but is godly when you're undergeared.


If you haven't cleared A2, it's infinitely more efficient to farm A1... some people (myself included) would even argue that it's best to farm A1 until you're at the level where you can farm A3, because A2 kind of sucks in terms of elite distribution, and there's a lot of mob types that just straight up suck for DH to deal with, particularly the teleport snake dudes and the sand shark guys.

I'm also the kind of person that likes to just use gear that has really good stats and then swap into shit gear with lots of MF right before the elite dies, which I find a lot easier in A1, since the mobs are almost universally slow and easy to deal with. It only takes a second or two to pop on MF gear, and makes a huge difference. I just whittle them down to ~100k hp, start running, and swap it out.

My A1 route is:

Set quest to Cursed Hold
1. Go to Northern Highlands, check the western wall to see if Watchtower spawns (it seems like it's usually up, but sometimes doesn't spawn). If it's not there, remake and check again, if it is there, port back home. Kill the elite(s) if they're there, Northern Highlands can spawn up to two, but don't go searching for them if they're not on your path.
2. Port back to town, go to Festering Woods. Clear Warrior's Rest and Crypt of the Ancients, there's a guaranteed elite spawn in each. One of them is always to the east-southeast of the big hole in the middle, one is always north-northwest. There can be up to two elite spawns in Festering Woods proper, but again, don't seek them out, just kill them if you see them. If you get the "defend the hill" event, it spawns an elite, so do it.
3. Port to Leoric's Manor, then go backwards through the chapel area towards the courtyard. There's sometimes an elite there, though it's rare. Go into the courtyard, there's always at least one pack, sometimes two.
4. Port to Cemetery of the Forsaken, check all three crypts. There's a guaranteed elite in each Defiled Crypt (unless you get Development Hell), and sometimes an elite in the outside area. Once you've found and killed the elite pack in each crypt, leave it behind; there's sometimes a second pack, but it's not worth checking for. If you find the Jar of Souls, start the event and then leave the room through the door you entered from; you don't need to be physically present, all the skeles will die after a minute whether you're there or not, and the Jar pops a few blues and maybe a rare. If you get the event where the ghost lady asks you to free her husband or whatever bullshit (which is rare, you generally find the elite before the event), just ignore the ghost dude that spawns and do all three altars, he doesn't really do any damage and he disappears once you've done all 3. Again, a few blues and maybe a rare pops, so it's worth the time.
5. Port to Northern Highlands and clear the Watchtower. There can be one elite in Level 1, and a huge number in Level 2 (I've had ten!).
6 (optional). You can port to whatever Leoric's dungeon place is called (Halls of Agony, maybe?) and clear Butcher too, if you want. There's generally 1-2 elites in level 2, 1-2 in the area where Warden is (plus Warden drops decent loot), and 1-2 more in level 3. I don't do it anymore, personally, but some people do.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
August 22 2012 09:27 GMT
#2702
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On August 22 2012 13:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
So I'm compiling a list of ideal endgame items, not including set bonuses, so I know what to look for in the AH. Would appreciate any suggestions as this is very rough

Weapon: Manticore > Hellrack
Helm: Mempo of Twilight > Andarial's Visage
Shoulders: Vile Ward > Seven Sins
Chest: The Inquisitor/Natalya's Embrace
Bracers: Lacuni Prowlers > Strongarm Bracers
Gloves: Tasker and Theo/Rare
Belt: Inna's Favor/The Witching Hour
Pants: Inna's Temperance
Boots: ???
Amulet: Rare
Ring: Natalya's Reflection
Quiver: Dead Man's Legacy

So with set bonuses included, what do you guys think would be the ideal setup?

My first act 3 run this morning and this is what dropped after just getting 5 NV, .... never had a legendary drop ever.
This was straight up 5k DPS upgrade over my old shoulders
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d(O_O)b
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
August 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#2703
I remember a while back someone calculated that Devouring Arrow was the best Hungering Arrow rune. Has this changed since I stopped playing for some reason? Also, I'm using Frost Arrow on my off-weapon. I did some buying/questing the other day and now I'm running slightly better gear. Is there any sort of spreadsheet or calculator I could use to determine the relative value of certain stats, i.e. whether getting +1% attack speed is better than +20 dex or +1% crit rate, etc.?
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 22 2012 21:51 GMT
#2704
spray of teeth is superior with sufficient crit
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ktang
Profile Joined September 2010
United States196 Posts
August 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#2705
So what is everyone's thought after a day of playing on the new patch?

I feel like everything is so easy now that it's sorta boring. Some of the new items are great and would be an upgrade to replace a few pieces I currently have, but then again I think to myself, what's the point when I'm already killing things in seconds. I use to get pretty happy getting a new upgrade from auction to finding an upgrade from farming but now it's just meh. There is absolutely no challenge in this game anymore.
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Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
August 23 2012 00:06 GMT
#2706
Trail of cinders is hilariously overpowered. I'm using discipline as my new hatred now.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 01:06:15
August 23 2012 01:05 GMT
#2707
On August 23 2012 09:06 Savant wrote:
Trail of cinders is hilariously overpowered. I'm using discipline as my new hatred now.

1500% da best, and holy shit it does a ton of dmg. This is just...what is this I don't even...
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 23 2012 01:14 GMT
#2708
On August 22 2012 13:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
So I'm compiling a list of ideal endgame items, not including set bonuses, so I know what to look for in the AH. Would appreciate any suggestions as this is very rough

Weapon: Manticore > Hellrack
Helm: Mempo of Twilight > Andarial's Visage
Shoulders: Vile Ward > Seven Sins
Chest: The Inquisitor/Natalya's Embrace
Bracers: Lacuni Prowlers > Strongarm Bracers
Gloves: Tasker and Theo/Rare
Belt: Inna's Favor/The Witching Hour
Pants: Inna's Temperance
Boots: ???
Amulet: Rare
Ring: Natalya's Reflection
Quiver: Dead Man's Legacy

So with set bonuses included, what do you guys think would be the ideal setup?

Fot boots probably Ik boots or natalyas boots. Both are pretty similar, can get 200 str 200 dex 100 vita 80 allres.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 02:40:18
August 23 2012 02:38 GMT
#2709
ooops, sorry.
gape.ninja
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan249 Posts
August 23 2012 03:35 GMT
#2710
Trail of cinders is ridiculous... Azmodan dies as his first voidzone is spawning
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
August 23 2012 03:55 GMT
#2711
sign me up for the trail of cinders fan club.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
August 23 2012 04:10 GMT
#2712
Is inna's pants attack speed bonus working?
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#2713
just tried trail of cinders....no way this was intended @_@
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
August 23 2012 05:22 GMT
#2714
On August 21 2012 12:08 Azzur wrote:
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Skill Rune - Trail of Cinders
Now leaves a trail of fire behind the player dealing 1500% weapon damage over 3 seconds

An interesting change to Vault that I have not seen discussed much - it seems like a lotta damage - anyone going to use Vault and this skill rune?

I'm running Bat, Gloom, SS, Prep with HA and Cluster Arrow. I'm already thinking of swapping Bat and Gloom for RoV and Vault. If I feel gloom is too valuable, I may just swap Bat for RoV.

I'm going to claim credit for being one of the first DHs to realise the power of the upgraded rune :p

I haven't had the chance to test it yet, since I was testing RoV but judging for the experiences of the other DHs, I must give it a go!
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
August 23 2012 05:59 GMT
#2715
On August 23 2012 10:14 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 13:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
So I'm compiling a list of ideal endgame items, not including set bonuses, so I know what to look for in the AH. Would appreciate any suggestions as this is very rough

Weapon: Manticore > Hellrack
Helm: Mempo of Twilight > Andarial's Visage
Shoulders: Vile Ward > Seven Sins
Chest: The Inquisitor/Natalya's Embrace
Bracers: Lacuni Prowlers > Strongarm Bracers
Gloves: Tasker and Theo/Rare
Belt: Inna's Favor/The Witching Hour
Pants: Inna's Temperance
Boots: ???
Amulet: Rare
Ring: Natalya's Reflection
Quiver: Dead Man's Legacy

So with set bonuses included, what do you guys think would be the ideal setup?

Fot boots probably Ik boots or natalyas boots. Both are pretty similar, can get 200 str 200 dex 100 vita 80 allres.


why not 300 dex firewalkers?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 23 2012 07:58 GMT
#2716
need to get more tanky to use trail, and less lag would help too
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
August 23 2012 08:45 GMT
#2717
On August 23 2012 07:18 ktang wrote:
So what is everyone's thought after a day of playing on the new patch?

I feel like everything is so easy now that it's sorta boring. Some of the new items are great and would be an upgrade to replace a few pieces I currently have, but then again I think to myself, what's the point when I'm already killing things in seconds. I use to get pretty happy getting a new upgrade from auction to finding an upgrade from farming but now it's just meh. There is absolutely no challenge in this game anymore.


you can play HC mode then.
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wkk6813
Profile Joined June 2012
30 Posts
August 23 2012 14:19 GMT
#2718
I wanna check which Rain of Vengeance people are using ???

Currently i am using dark cloud and wonders if it is the best....just share the thoughts.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/rain-of-vengeance
MysticaL
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada118 Posts
August 23 2012 15:58 GMT
#2719
lol, made a trail of cinders video, using this skill is SO fun (but prolly gonna get nerfed tho).

5 stack cydaea in less than 3 mins woo
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 23 2012 17:29 GMT
#2720
On August 24 2012 00:58 MysticaL wrote:
lol, made a trail of cinders video, using this skill is SO fun (but prolly gonna get nerfed tho).

5 stack cydaea in less than 3 mins woo
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCGb5D6PEU


Lolz, just tried it out with my 230 allres 58kdps dh and it works even with that. No problems with phasebeasts anymore. DH are the new WW barbs c/d?
I wish i had a nats helm with socket though, but they are so expensive
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