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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 21 2012 03:16 GMT
#2681
The complete and utter murder of the Tank DH kind of kills the whole 1.04 hype for me...and I don't even have a tank DH.

The patch itself wasn't the big deal for me, as it was the Devs actually trying to make their game better. So them basically going back on their word and outright killing a unique, creative build (and nerfing many Proc chances in general) essentially kills my excitement.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 21 2012 04:44 GMT
#2682
RIP Tank DH
/commercial
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 21 2012 04:54 GMT
#2683
On August 21 2012 12:08 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
Skill Rune - Trail of Cinders
Now leaves a trail of fire behind the player dealing 1500% weapon damage over 3 seconds

An interesting change to Vault that I have not seen discussed much - it seems like a lotta damage - anyone going to use Vault and this skill rune?

I'm running Bat, Gloom, SS, Prep with HA and Cluster Arrow. I'm already thinking of swapping Bat and Gloom for RoV and Vault. If I feel gloom is too valuable, I may just swap Bat for RoV.

eh, seems dangerous to use though. will try it out. with nat regen one can leap indefinitely.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
August 21 2012 19:20 GMT
#2684
To those who use RoV: Which Rain of Vengance rune are you using post-patch?

I have never really used it before, but with the massive damage buff I have decided to give it a try.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 21 2012 22:07 GMT
#2685
http://i.imgur.com/kHIyz.jpg

o.O
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 22:38:03
August 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#2686
surprised noones talking about the vault change...just tried it and it kills elites ridiculously fast

maybe a gloom=>vault combo will work
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
August 21 2012 23:04 GMT
#2687
On August 22 2012 07:07 JoeSchmoe wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/kHIyz.jpg

o.O

omg lol... That's ridiculous.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
August 22 2012 01:36 GMT
#2688
On August 22 2012 08:04 ShivaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 07:07 JoeSchmoe wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/kHIyz.jpg

o.O

omg lol... That's ridiculous.

rofl, fucking off the wall weapon. seriously.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 01:50:50
August 22 2012 01:48 GMT
#2689
On August 22 2012 07:36 thoradycus wrote:
surprised noones talking about the vault change...just tried it and it kills elites ridiculously fast

maybe a gloom=>vault combo will work


The new vault is nuts damage, it and gloom with decent tankiness is massive. Unfortunately it basically begs to be used with old nats set....but you could do it with just a ton of disc

EDIT: can you do a tank DH now with new vault? what is its coefficiant?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
August 22 2012 02:18 GMT
#2690
I hate to ask such a broad question, but I haven't played in like 6 months (before RMAH), and a lot of stuff seems to have changed. First, I don't really have much gold (200k) and I never really cleared A2 Inferno. What is an extra-cheap build and raiding target? What stats should I focus on once I start gearing up? Also I wanted to post a Screenshot of my buid/stats but i can't seem to take a screenshot in game. Where do the screenshots I take go?

Thanks for all the help guys.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 02:50:42
August 22 2012 02:47 GMT
#2691
On August 22 2012 11:18 SirKibbleX wrote:
I hate to ask such a broad question, but I haven't played in like 6 months (before RMAH), and a lot of stuff seems to have changed. First, I don't really have much gold (200k) and I never really cleared A2 Inferno. What is an extra-cheap build and raiding target? What stats should I focus on once I start gearing up? Also I wanted to post a Screenshot of my buid/stats but i can't seem to take a screenshot in game. Where do the screenshots I take go?

Thanks for all the help guys.

Gear was very cheap just prior to 1.04 - but, due to 1.04, there seems to be an influx of alot of new players so the economy is in chaos at the moment. Still, my gut feeling is that gear will be relatively cheap.

A good place to farm is Vault of the Assassin (where you find Kulle's blood). You start at the Blood and Sands quest (Waterlogged passage), find the VotA and reach the checkpoint. Thereafter, if you don't complete the quest, if you relogin, you'll always start at the entrance of the zone.

As for stats, I can farm it at 120 AR (190 Physical Resist), 58k DPS and 27k HP. I can have better stats but I sacrifice them for magic find. You'll only need about 150-200 AR because gloom will keep you alive through anything if used proactively. I'm quite sure that you can farm the zone with about 40k DPS.

My build is:
Bat, Gloom, SS, Prep, with Hungering Arrow and Cluster Arrow (Loaded for Bear).

Because of 1.04 I'm thinking of experimenting with Rain of Vengence (swap with Bat) and Vault (Cinder Trail).
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 02:56:19
August 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#2692
1500% Vault is so disgusting, it's begging to be nerfed.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 22 2012 02:57 GMT
#2693
On August 22 2012 11:18 SirKibbleX wrote:
I hate to ask such a broad question, but I haven't played in like 6 months (before RMAH), and a lot of stuff seems to have changed. First, I don't really have much gold (200k) and I never really cleared A2 Inferno. What is an extra-cheap build and raiding target? What stats should I focus on once I start gearing up? Also I wanted to post a Screenshot of my buid/stats but i can't seem to take a screenshot in game. Where do the screenshots I take go?

Thanks for all the help guys.


There really isn't a "cheap build" for DH, just get generally good gear and you can try out whatever skills you want.

If you are just trying to MF then running warriors rest is going to be the easiest way, especially on a 200k budget. If you wait a day or two prices will lower considerably on many items as the economy irons out with all the new stats. With 200k you can gear a quite solid general DH, or you can get a slightly less solid one with some MF who can run WR well. I geared my DH a few days ago for 130k and got 44% crit, 40k dps, 49 max disc, and 21k health, but that was with no MF. Now items have been hugely buffed in stats so it can be much better (quiver base dex went from 190max to 290max or something)

Quiver: 14+ AS, High crit (max is 8.5), 8+max discipline, as much dex as you can afford on your budget

Boots: Movespeed, as much dex/vit/res as you can afford

Weapon: Socket and as much crit damage as you can afford, as much dex/dps as you can afford.

Gloves: high crit, as much other dex/critdmg/AS as you can afford.

Rings: Critdmg, as much dex/as/crit as you can afford.

Belt: high Dex, as much vit res as afford

Chest: high dex, max disc, as much vit res as afford

Helm: 3+ crit, dex, vit as can afford. socket if you are MFing

Shoulders: dex/vit

Bracers: 3+ crit, dex, as much vit/res as can afford.

Amulet: Crit, as much AS/critdmg/dex/vit/MF as can afford.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
ktang
Profile Joined September 2010
United States196 Posts
August 22 2012 03:40 GMT
#2694
You don't even need the DH tank build anymore. This game is so easy now. If you could farm act 3 prior to patch easily, now you will just melt things away. I can gloom and take hits now and even get sliced with arcane once which I wasn't able to do prior to patch. Vault at 1500% is just wow! Vault twice through white mobs and they all just melt. This game is so easy now that it's kind of boring, anyone else agrees?
ツ
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
August 22 2012 03:52 GMT
#2695
If you haven't been able to clear act2, then you aren't ready to farm there yet. Besides that, Act2 is kinda rough on a DH... shit pops up out of nowhere and jumps on you and throws shit at you constantly. Though maybe it's just seems that way for me because the best latency I can hope for is around 200...

Either way, with that kind of budget, and if you haven't played in 6 months, then just farm the hell out of Act1. Start with Festering Woods and look for the dungeons right away for 2 guaranteed NV stacks. After those (or on the way too them, as is usually the case) find the other Elites/Goblin in the Woods. After that, go to the Cemetery and clear the Defiled Crypts. I usually skip straight to Norther Highlands after that just because Southern and Fields of Misery have shitty mob types for DH. The only reason I do Northern is because there is almost always a goblin there, and there is a chance of getting a Watchtower spawn, which typically has a ton of elites. After Highlands, continue on to Leoric's Manor and then the Halls of Agony/Cursed Hold. Ideally, you started at the Cursed Hold quest so that you can kill the Warden for a full-loot, but easy-kill elite. After him, kill the Butcher and then repeat from the start as many times as you feel like.

I recommend not IDing your rares until the end of the round. The key to making money from farming is streamlining your method, and IDing everything at the same time means less time spent at the Blacksmith/Vendor (depending on whether you prefer to salvage your junk drops or vendor them). Not to mention, your Town Portal trips will be super fast if all you have to do is drop your rares into your stash, offload your blues to the Blacksmith/Vendor, Repair, and then go back. I'm usually back to killing stuff in under a minute.

Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 04:29:41
August 22 2012 04:09 GMT
#2696
So I'm compiling a list of ideal endgame items, not including set bonuses, so I know what to look for in the AH. Would appreciate any suggestions as this is very rough

Weapon: Manticore > Hellrack
Helm: Mempo of Twilight > Andarial's Visage
Shoulders: Vile Ward > Seven Sins
Chest: The Inquisitor/Natalya's Embrace
Bracers: Lacuni Prowlers > Strongarm Bracers
Gloves: Tasker and Theo/Rare
Belt: Inna's Favor/The Witching Hour
Pants: Inna's Temperance
Boots: ???
Amulet: Rare
Ring: Natalya's Reflection
Quiver: Dead Man's Legacy

So with set bonuses included, what do you guys think would be the ideal setup?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 22 2012 04:15 GMT
#2697
i found a hellrack last week :/

sucks to be me
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
August 22 2012 05:45 GMT
#2698
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SiRe-1336/hero/14303428

There's my account. I have 500k budget now to work with. What would you guys recommend me focusing on gear-wise? I'm probably just going to be running A1 for a while then working on Vault runs in A2. I'm not really skilled enough yet with AH use lately to know what items I find are worth, so I've just been vending them all unless they seem obviously awesome. Maybe improving my skillset by starting a new char would be a good way to relearn what is valuable. Or maybe shopping might teach me some stuff. Let me know what you think I should do.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 22 2012 06:06 GMT
#2699
On August 22 2012 13:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
So I'm compiling a list of ideal endgame items, not including set bonuses, so I know what to look for in the AH. Would appreciate any suggestions as this is very rough

Weapon: Manticore > Hellrack
Helm: Mempo of Twilight > Andarial's Visage
Shoulders: Vile Ward > Seven Sins
Chest: The Inquisitor/Natalya's Embrace
Bracers: Lacuni Prowlers > Strongarm Bracers
Gloves: Tasker and Theo/Rare
Belt: Inna's Favor/The Witching Hour
Pants: Inna's Temperance
Boots: ???
Amulet: Rare
Ring: Natalya's Reflection
Quiver: Dead Man's Legacy

So with set bonuses included, what do you guys think would be the ideal setup?


I would consider windforce for main weapon. chance to roll 50% of knockback on hit which is insane. Tyrael's might has bonus damage to elites and can sub for inquisitor if you don't care about the potential discipline or skill property or aren't going for set bonus. tasker and theo is pretty bad. the witching hour is just insane. if only it had a guaranteed dex roll. for the boots, natalya's if you're going for set bonus, otherwise just rare. Stone of Jordan has potential to be a very good ring. up to 30% bonus against elites is insane and you can roll DH skill damage bonuses as well. and dead man's legacy is like a no brainer considering they buffed the shit out of it.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 22 2012 06:29 GMT
#2700
On August 22 2012 14:45 SirKibbleX wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SiRe-1336/hero/14303428

There's my account. I have 500k budget now to work with. What would you guys recommend me focusing on gear-wise? I'm probably just going to be running A1 for a while then working on Vault runs in A2. I'm not really skilled enough yet with AH use lately to know what items I find are worth, so I've just been vending them all unless they seem obviously awesome. Maybe improving my skillset by starting a new char would be a good way to relearn what is valuable. Or maybe shopping might teach me some stuff. Let me know what you think I should do.


Sob3k posted a pretty good guide in the GD thread about budget gearing. It's in the last couple pages. Check that out.

Shopping will def help you get a feel for what items are worth. What I do is stash everything I think might be good (good combos of stats/ high rolls) and then search for like +- 10 of each stat and see what they are going for. If its a fair amount (this varies based on how much your auction slots are worth) then I undercut the market by 5-10% and list it. If not. I vendor in my next game. Pretty simple.
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