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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 18 2012 17:15 GMT
#41
Ah well, now I got both the full game client and the beta client so I'm ready no matter what.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 18 2012 17:25 GMT
#42
I'm still downloading in some vague hope it still works TT
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:30:37
April 18 2012 17:30 GMT
#43
So to get this straight: being able to play was unintended behavior which is being fixed right now, and there's no point in downloading the Starter Edition?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 18 2012 17:32 GMT
#44
On April 19 2012 02:30 Scorch wrote:
So to get this straight: being able to play was unintended behavior which is being fixed right now, and there's no point in downloading the Starter Edition?

I don't know if it's been confirmed but that's the working theory.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
April 18 2012 17:34 GMT
#45
does any1 got tired of d3 beta ? if so could u be so kind to gimme an invite so i could try out.Thanks ^^ (u never know)
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
April 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#46
It hasnt been confirmed, but i doubt theres another accessability error that they would be fixing.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#47
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 18 2012 17:57 GMT
#48
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.


I'm pretty sure their servers currently couldn't handle the load of an open beta, with potentially millions of players downloading, updating and using the client. Then again their latest wave of beta invites does hint at a stress test scenario, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'd be happy if I could simply play the game for a few hours to see if it has the right "feel" to it, that is, if everything - killing, casting, looting - is as smooth and as fun as it was in D2, and if they managed to make the B.Net experience more enjoyable than the rather bad implementation of SC2. But alas, it's not supposed to be, with europeans getting the shaft beta-wise time and time again.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
April 18 2012 18:03 GMT
#49
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.

Then you should try out the Starter Edition. When it's released, probably quickly after D3 release.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
April 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#50
On April 19 2012 02:57 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.


I'm pretty sure their servers currently couldn't handle the load of an open beta, with potentially millions of players downloading, updating and using the client. Then again their latest wave of beta invites does hint at a stress test scenario, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'd be happy if I could simply play the game for a few hours to see if it has the right "feel" to it, that is, if everything - killing, casting, looting - is as smooth and as fun as it was in D2, and if they managed to make the B.Net experience more enjoyable than the rather bad implementation of SC2. But alas, it's not supposed to be, with europeans getting the shaft beta-wise time and time again.

[1] Gameplay is amazing
[2] Bnet is lackluster, like SC2, but I'm not hugely bothered by it
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 18 2012 18:20 GMT
#51
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
April 18 2012 18:23 GMT
#52
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
April 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#53
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 18 2012 18:34 GMT
#54
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#55
On April 19 2012 03:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important


Aren't servers usually maintained by another company?
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 18:42:39
April 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#56
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..

Maybe, but if my memory serves me right non-us citizens didn't get shafted in the same regard for the sc2 beta and I'd assume that would be bigger server logistic issues. But whatever I don't really care, I just don't think it's all about convinience. Maybe you could argue that it was more important for sc2 to try the servers for each individual region than it is for D3 since it's focused on single player and co-op moreso than PvP.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 18 2012 18:49 GMT
#57
i'm pretty sure that they set the servers up based on their projections of sales, if 30% of the beta invites went to EU (implying 30% of server capacity is for/in the EU) then they expect about 30% of D3's sales to come from the EU
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 19:46:11
April 18 2012 19:42 GMT
#58
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#59
On April 19 2012 04:42 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.

Agreed, it seems EU got WAY too few invites... out of all my friends, only one actually got the beta, in the last EU wave. That's a group of about 10 loyal blizzard fans, and one only got the beta. That doesn't seem all that reasonable compared to most betas. It's up to blizzard obviously, but it seems pretty much everyone in the US who were signed for the beta from the start got it, at least a big proportion.
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
April 18 2012 21:20 GMT
#60
On April 19 2012 03:38 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important


Aren't servers usually maintained by another company?


I guess by "usually" you mean for websites.

Blizzard and other large studios have their own servers in their own halls or rent space at halls, but its still their servers.
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