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ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 15:18:23
April 18 2012 11:54 GMT
#1
Greetings adventurers,

As many of you already know, Blizzard announced the end of beta testing (May 1st) (announcement below).
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We'd like to thank everyone who has participated in the Diablo III beta. You've done an admirable job of testing, and we greatly appreciate all of the feedback you provided during this critical phase of development.

In preparation for the launch of Diablo III on Tuesday, May 15, the beta servers will be brought offline on Tuesday, May 1. At that time, all beta accounts and character information will be reset. Leading up to Diablo's May 15 launch date, players will only be able to create comments and forum posts on the official Diablo III community site if they have pre-purchased Diablo III or have a StarCraft II or an active World of Warcraft game license attached to their Battle.net account. In the meantime, we encourage everyone to stay tuned to this website for exciting news and updates regarding the upcoming release.

Thank you again for your participation, and we'll see you soon on Battle.net!



Blizzard is also working on a shareware version of the game: Diablo 3 - Starter Edition.
This version is available to everyone for free but has certain limitations.



You can* play this shareware version using the beta launcher. You must first create a battletag (via battle.net account profile). If your account isn't flagged for beta access, you will automatically log in as the starter edition. You can only play with people with starter edition.

Download link (launcher)
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Windows:

US: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/4de82d80-ddeb-4e61-80ae-b4e8817f54b0/Diablo-III-Beta-enUS-Setup.exe
GB: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta enGB Setup.exe
FR: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta frFR Setup.exe
DE: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta deDE Setup.exe

MAC:

US: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/4de82d80-ddeb-4e61-80ae-b4e8817f54b0/Diablo-III-Beta-enUS-Setup.zip
GB: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta enGB Setup.app.zip
FR: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta frFR Setup.app.zip
DE: http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net/downloads/d3-installers/da85694f-aa95-ea2a-32bd-396b6c9e90fb/Diablo III Beta deDE Setup.app.zip



Update: This work-around using the beta launcher was not intended. You will more likely have to wait for May 15 before you can play using the Diablo 3: Starter Edition.

Sorry for getting your hopes up!
Coutcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada519 Posts
April 18 2012 11:55 GMT
#2
Confirmed!
This is what the world is for Making ELECTRICITY :D
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
April 18 2012 12:15 GMT
#3
So what is this..? Just the beta content made available for everyone, or is there more to it?
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
April 18 2012 12:18 GMT
#4
On April 18 2012 21:15 ShivaN wrote:
So what is this..? Just the beta content made available for everyone, or is there more to it?


I haven't run trough all of it yet, but I believe its the same content (if not less).
Blizzard is just testing their shareware version prior to release.
Luzar
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2 Posts
April 18 2012 12:23 GMT
#5
Can we play with the Beta client or do we have to use the download link that has been posted here?
remodemo
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany120 Posts
April 18 2012 12:24 GMT
#6
i was able to play for like 5 minutes, then i was kicked from the server and everytime i try to log back on i get the error 3005. so if this was just a bug that has now been fixed by blizzard, i hope you havent gotten your hopes too high. for as it seems right now, the open access for everyone lasted only 3 hours.
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
April 18 2012 12:24 GMT
#7
You can play with the beta client. The link is there only for people that can't access it trough their battle.net account (not flagged for beta). It's the same launcher.
Toshirotl
Profile Joined January 2012
Portugal128 Posts
April 18 2012 12:25 GMT
#8
Cant login anymore either
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:31:29
April 18 2012 12:27 GMT
#9
On April 18 2012 21:24 remodemo wrote:
i was able to play for like 5 minutes, then i was kicked from the server and everytime i try to log back on i get the error 3005. so if this was just a bug that has now been fixed by blizzard, i hope you havent gotten your hopes too high. for as it seems right now, the open access for everyone lasted only 3 hours.


Yep, same disconnect error 3005 on the Starter Edition Account.
The account flagged for beta doesn't work anymore either.
Maybe servers crashed or Blizzard temporarily removed access. Waiting for bluepost
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:30:19
April 18 2012 12:28 GMT
#10
Yea its been fixed, at least I got to run through with the wizard =)

EDIT: now its (error 33) Battlenet down for maintanance, maybe its just temporary.
Luzar
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2 Posts
April 18 2012 12:29 GMT
#11
I'm so exicted! Wow.. Praying to get a sneak peak before the full version is released!
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 12:41:19
April 18 2012 12:39 GMT
#12
Nethaera (Blue Poster) on 2012/04/18 12:36:00 PM (Source)

The Diablo III beta is currently unavailable while we work to resolve an issue. We do not have a current ETA for when the beta will be available, but will provide further updates in approximately 2 hours.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
April 18 2012 12:44 GMT
#13
sources? I see no news on battle.net.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
April 18 2012 13:03 GMT
#14
I hope this is true.

Finally in the beta! I have been waiting for this.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
April 18 2012 13:04 GMT
#15
As it seems that was a mistake on Blizzards part and they are fixing it/it is fixed.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 18 2012 13:10 GMT
#16
Would be too good to be true so I don't expect to see the access remain after they've "fixed the issue". But hey, who expects EU users to see a glimpse of the Beta anway.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 18 2012 13:14 GMT
#17
so there wont be any open beta?
Mettyman
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark132 Posts
April 18 2012 13:17 GMT
#18
Doesn't look like it. Blizzard shut down the servers to fix an issue. Let's just hope that issue isn't the fact that the doors temporarily were open to everyone.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
April 18 2012 13:18 GMT
#19
So this was a joke or what ? All i get trying to install this is that D3 hasnt been released yet. And no official words on this at all.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
April 18 2012 13:24 GMT
#20
On April 18 2012 22:18 Avean wrote:
So this was a joke or what ? All i get trying to install this is that D3 hasnt been released yet. And no official words on this at all.


You're trying to use the release client, there is a different client for the beta.
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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
April 18 2012 13:25 GMT
#21
Just using the client that was linked in this thread.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1890 Posts
April 18 2012 13:29 GMT
#22
this "starter version" was flagged as "beta" to me plus I received an invitational email... that was one hell of a disappointment when this text at the end of the boss fight popped up. biggest bullshit blizz has ever done to me...
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
April 18 2012 13:41 GMT
#23
I am still confused as to what content is available in the starter's edition. Only allowed to play 1 hero and no quests? How far can we go in the game?
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 13:53:24
April 18 2012 13:51 GMT
#24
On April 18 2012 22:41 Tryndamere wrote:
I am still confused as to what content is available in the starter's edition. Only allowed to play 1 hero and no quests? How far can we go in the game?


Everything is the same as beta (content wise).
You can create all 5 characters and level up to level 13.
I think you even had the message "Congratulations, you have beaten the Diablo 3 Beta!” after killing the Skeleton King.

You also have this "Upgrade Now" menu in the top right corner.
[image loading]
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
April 18 2012 14:00 GMT
#25
On April 18 2012 22:51 ezk wrote:
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On April 18 2012 22:41 Tryndamere wrote:
I am still confused as to what content is available in the starter's edition. Only allowed to play 1 hero and no quests? How far can we go in the game?


Everything is the same as beta (content wise).
You can create all 5 characters and level up to level 13.
I think you even had the message "Congratulations, you have beaten the Diablo 3 Beta!” after killing the Skeleton King.

You also have this "Upgrade Now" menu in the top right corner.
[image loading]


That's just beta in a different name. I was hoping for more content.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
April 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#26
On April 18 2012 23:00 Tryndamere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:51 ezk wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:41 Tryndamere wrote:
I am still confused as to what content is available in the starter's edition. Only allowed to play 1 hero and no quests? How far can we go in the game?


Everything is the same as beta (content wise).
You can create all 5 characters and level up to level 13.
I think you even had the message "Congratulations, you have beaten the Diablo 3 Beta!” after killing the Skeleton King.

You also have this "Upgrade Now" menu in the top right corner.
[image loading]


That's just beta in a different name. I was hoping for more content.


Well...yeah, you should probably buy the game then.
gugarutz
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria110 Posts
April 18 2012 14:27 GMT
#27
anyone knows what the differences will be when the game comes out?
would've been interesting if i could take my chars/items from the starters edition to a full one so i could try it out and buy only if i like the game.

SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 18 2012 14:38 GMT
#28
On April 18 2012 23:27 gugarutz wrote:
anyone knows what the differences will be when the game comes out?
would've been interesting if i could take my chars/items from the starters edition to a full one so i could try it out and buy only if i like the game.



When they release the game, you will probally be able to do that. I assume it will be like the WoW trial period, or any other MMO.
atmospheric
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria49 Posts
April 18 2012 14:39 GMT
#29
On April 18 2012 23:27 gugarutz wrote:
anyone knows what the differences will be when the game comes out?
would've been interesting if i could take my chars/items from the starters edition to a full one so i could try it out and buy only if i like the game.



most likely, it's the same in WoW.

bergsprekken
Profile Joined April 2012
1 Post
April 18 2012 14:45 GMT
#30
Is it only for US accounts that bought the retail on the battlenet account? Or can you just sign up for a battle.net account and create a battletag and use the downloaded client?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 18 2012 14:49 GMT
#31
How do you get the starter edition client? I can't find anything about it on battle.net.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 14:53:01
April 18 2012 14:52 GMT
#32
On April 18 2012 23:38 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 23:27 gugarutz wrote:
anyone knows what the differences will be when the game comes out?
would've been interesting if i could take my chars/items from the starters edition to a full one so i could try it out and buy only if i like the game.



When they release the game, you will probally be able to do that. I assume it will be like the WoW trial period, or any other MMO.

Or... Starcraft 2! It's a free version where you can only play with certain classes/quests.

On April 18 2012 23:49 Tobberoth wrote:
How do you get the starter edition client? I can't find anything about it on battle.net.

afaik it was the beta client, but they're probably fixing it right now, so people won't be able to do this anymore.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 18 2012 15:01 GMT
#33
"Issue resolving" still going on, next update at 11:00 PDT.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
April 18 2012 15:06 GMT
#34
Just an accessibility error that we're correcting.


Well well, no fun for us.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#35
On April 19 2012 00:06 TunaBarrett wrote:
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Just an accessibility error that we're correcting.


Well well, no fun for us.


Ah, fucking great. Not that I had too high hopes but it's still annoying.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 15:30:45
April 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#36
so if i download starters edition now i wont have to download the game again after release?
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
April 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#37
not gonna download 7GB for nothing...
boppel
Profile Joined March 2012
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 15:48:39
April 18 2012 15:47 GMT
#38
wrong thraed
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:10:13
April 18 2012 16:31 GMT
#39
Sometimes I hate the community. Reading through the D3 Beta forums and the aftermath of the accidental open beta, there are people boasting with their three (!) accounts with Beta access while ridiculing the "non-beta whiners".

Really, really makes you wish you could punch people in the face over broadband.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
April 18 2012 16:41 GMT
#40
Ow this really hurts.
We know nothing.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 18 2012 17:15 GMT
#41
Ah well, now I got both the full game client and the beta client so I'm ready no matter what.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 18 2012 17:25 GMT
#42
I'm still downloading in some vague hope it still works TT
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:30:37
April 18 2012 17:30 GMT
#43
So to get this straight: being able to play was unintended behavior which is being fixed right now, and there's no point in downloading the Starter Edition?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 18 2012 17:32 GMT
#44
On April 19 2012 02:30 Scorch wrote:
So to get this straight: being able to play was unintended behavior which is being fixed right now, and there's no point in downloading the Starter Edition?

I don't know if it's been confirmed but that's the working theory.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
April 18 2012 17:34 GMT
#45
does any1 got tired of d3 beta ? if so could u be so kind to gimme an invite so i could try out.Thanks ^^ (u never know)
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
April 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#46
It hasnt been confirmed, but i doubt theres another accessability error that they would be fixing.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
April 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#47
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 18 2012 17:57 GMT
#48
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.


I'm pretty sure their servers currently couldn't handle the load of an open beta, with potentially millions of players downloading, updating and using the client. Then again their latest wave of beta invites does hint at a stress test scenario, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'd be happy if I could simply play the game for a few hours to see if it has the right "feel" to it, that is, if everything - killing, casting, looting - is as smooth and as fun as it was in D2, and if they managed to make the B.Net experience more enjoyable than the rather bad implementation of SC2. But alas, it's not supposed to be, with europeans getting the shaft beta-wise time and time again.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
April 18 2012 18:03 GMT
#49
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.

Then you should try out the Starter Edition. When it's released, probably quickly after D3 release.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3370 Posts
April 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#50
On April 19 2012 02:57 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 02:39 Jakkerr wrote:
I really don't get it if blizzard doesn't 'open' the beta even if it's only the starter version.
I am considering to buy Diablo 3 but not without trying it since I don't know what to expect.
Surely that goes for a lot of people, especially people that haven't played D2.


I'm pretty sure their servers currently couldn't handle the load of an open beta, with potentially millions of players downloading, updating and using the client. Then again their latest wave of beta invites does hint at a stress test scenario, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'd be happy if I could simply play the game for a few hours to see if it has the right "feel" to it, that is, if everything - killing, casting, looting - is as smooth and as fun as it was in D2, and if they managed to make the B.Net experience more enjoyable than the rather bad implementation of SC2. But alas, it's not supposed to be, with europeans getting the shaft beta-wise time and time again.

[1] Gameplay is amazing
[2] Bnet is lackluster, like SC2, but I'm not hugely bothered by it
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 18 2012 18:20 GMT
#51
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3370 Posts
April 18 2012 18:23 GMT
#52
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
April 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#53
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 18 2012 18:34 GMT
#54
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 18 2012 18:38 GMT
#55
On April 19 2012 03:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important


Aren't servers usually maintained by another company?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 18:42:39
April 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#56
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..

Maybe, but if my memory serves me right non-us citizens didn't get shafted in the same regard for the sc2 beta and I'd assume that would be bigger server logistic issues. But whatever I don't really care, I just don't think it's all about convinience. Maybe you could argue that it was more important for sc2 to try the servers for each individual region than it is for D3 since it's focused on single player and co-op moreso than PvP.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 18 2012 18:49 GMT
#57
i'm pretty sure that they set the servers up based on their projections of sales, if 30% of the beta invites went to EU (implying 30% of server capacity is for/in the EU) then they expect about 30% of D3's sales to come from the EU
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Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 19:46:11
April 18 2012 19:42 GMT
#58
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#59
On April 19 2012 04:42 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.

Agreed, it seems EU got WAY too few invites... out of all my friends, only one actually got the beta, in the last EU wave. That's a group of about 10 loyal blizzard fans, and one only got the beta. That doesn't seem all that reasonable compared to most betas. It's up to blizzard obviously, but it seems pretty much everyone in the US who were signed for the beta from the start got it, at least a big proportion.
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
April 18 2012 21:20 GMT
#60
On April 19 2012 03:38 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:31 kuresuti wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..


Why? Are we still in the age where physical presence is important?


to a fairly large degree, yes, where the servers are physically located is still important


Aren't servers usually maintained by another company?


I guess by "usually" you mean for websites.

Blizzard and other large studios have their own servers in their own halls or rent space at halls, but its still their servers.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 18 2012 22:43 GMT
#61
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..

There is this concept called "outsourcing" though.. Blizzard being a US company is not a valid reason in the present day. There are data centres all over the world.
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
April 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#62
On April 19 2012 05:13 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 04:42 Shockk wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.

Agreed, it seems EU got WAY too few invites... out of all my friends, only one actually got the beta, in the last EU wave. That's a group of about 10 loyal blizzard fans, and one only got the beta. That doesn't seem all that reasonable compared to most betas. It's up to blizzard obviously, but it seems pretty much everyone in the US who were signed for the beta from the start got it, at least a big proportion.

EU? Try living in Australia. Not only did none of my close RL friends get in, but even in my AU gaming groups (Via steam etc) I only know 1 person who got in. Less than a month now tho so I don't mind too much anymore :D
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
April 19 2012 01:24 GMT
#63
On April 19 2012 10:15 DeCoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 05:13 Tobberoth wrote:
On April 19 2012 04:42 Shockk wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:17 Gescom wrote:
[3] Blizzard has Europe specific beta servers and probably 30% of the total invites went out to Europe, what more can you want from a US-based company?


Those 30% certainly aren't the quota for non-NA gamers - it's much, much lower.

Of course it makes sense to have NA players be the prime audience for the beta - technical reasons, language issues etc. But then they should either clearly communicate that they'll grant the vast majority of their keys to NA, or they should make it NA exlusive from the start. Over the course of the Beta there have been several cases like the very last wave where 275.000 "world wide" keys went out but the majority of those landed back in NA, and that was after the same number of keys had been distributed NA-exclusively prior to that.

Throughout the D3 Beta EU gamers have been left waiting and hoping and it's become extremly frustrating. Especially compared to SC2's beta where pretty much everyone who wanted to got a chance at a first impression, or the Beta for the upcoming WoW addon, which again pretty much everyone who's interested gets to play, regardless of location. Everyone I know interested in SC2 in Germany/Europe played the Beta. Everyone of my friends into WoW currently tests MoP. Noone (!) of my european/german friends and contacts got into the D3 Beta.

I realize I'm in no way entitled to take part in the Beta test but somewhere - being the loyal fan and all and having seen quite a number of "international beta invite waves" going out - I had expected to have a chance at a key, or at least have a friend of mine get one so I could play for an hour or two. Nada. Nothing.

Agreed, it seems EU got WAY too few invites... out of all my friends, only one actually got the beta, in the last EU wave. That's a group of about 10 loyal blizzard fans, and one only got the beta. That doesn't seem all that reasonable compared to most betas. It's up to blizzard obviously, but it seems pretty much everyone in the US who were signed for the beta from the start got it, at least a big proportion.

EU? Try living in Australia. Not only did none of my close RL friends get in, but even in my AU gaming groups (Via steam etc) I only know 1 person who got in. Less than a month now tho so I don't mind too much anymore :D


Indeed, I am almost certain that the only keys that hit Aust were through contests, which wasn't many at all. I havent heard of anyone actually receiving a key from the beta invites. Spent so long thinking that there might be a chance of getting a key.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
April 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#64
"Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last."
"En taro adun, Executor."
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 07:44:21
April 19 2012 07:44 GMT
#65
On April 19 2012 07:43 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 03:23 Gescom wrote:
On April 19 2012 03:20 nam nam wrote:
If 30 % reflect their market demographic that's fine. But it being a US-based company is pretty irrelevant.

If 85% of their manpower is in California, then I imagine it is easiest for them to set up their initial deployment of beta servers there..

There is this concept called "outsourcing" though.. Blizzard being a US company is not a valid reason in the present day. There are data centres all over the world.

This. In fact, all the eu wow servers (a ton) are situated in Sweden and handled by Telia. Outsourcing servers is the most common thing ever.
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