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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On February 07 2012 11:29 nvs. wrote: Blizzard keeps seeming less and less like the company I remember growing up. Well it isn't and your not as naive and have standards now edit ps +1 | ||
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TossFloss
Canada606 Posts
On March 23 2012 08:18 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: I don't understand what they're so afraid of with chat channels in B.Net. From what I see, blizzard gamers and the communities in general are the best of any gaming community in terms of maturity and constructive talking. Even the B.Net general forums, despite what many people on TL may say, are several steps above any other gaming forum i've seen. The community as a whole is asking for open chat channels. I haven't met a single gamer who says otherwise. Just give them to us! Or give us an extraordinarily articulate reason as to why "[we] really don't want them." If D3 B.Net is not noticeably improved from what it is in SC2, I really don't see myself playing D3 very long after release. Social is everything in online gaming, and, through their actions, Blizzard is actively trying to fail it's customers and community. Done for entirely economic reasons. They probably crunched the numbers and figured they'd they'd save millions in sever costs by cutting chat. As I see it, Act/Blizzard is milking their brands for everything their worth over the short term. I doubt the brand will command as much resepct in 10 years. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
Doesnt matter too much in SC2 since you basically hit the find match button and are all set... | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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Rumpus
United States136 Posts
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... Certainly won't be getting Diablo if this is the crap we'll have to deal with. Already went through this issue with Starcraft 2, and still going through it =/. For those who don't understand, the social aspect is insanely important to a game like this. How would I find people to trade/group with and actually do some friendly banter and so forth? I don't want to have to go through TL or the Diablo 3 forums, swap friend codes and start getting people together every time I want to meet or play with someone. That is ridiculous. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:24 Rumpus wrote: Man, I have played the Diablo 3 beta and I didn't really know anyone else that did so I sort of said I'd shrug off the social aspects until launch. But after reading this, and going through it myself....I don't think so Blizzard. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... Certainly won't be getting Diablo if this is the crap we'll have to deal with. Already went through this issue with Starcraft 2, and still going through it =/. For those who don't understand, the social aspect is insanely important to a game like this. How would I find people to trade/group with and actually do some friendly banter and so forth? I don't want to have to go through TL or the Diablo 3 forums, swap friend codes and start getting people together every time I want to meet or play with someone. That is ridiculous. They dont want you to trade, they want you to use RMAH to sell/buy your items  Seriously I'm not sure why they are making this with SC2 and now D3... it makes almost no sense. This is easy to do and I don't see the economic problem for them (direct or inderect costs). The cost is very small for chats and the benefit in terms of clientele satisfaction is probably worth this small cost. Really I just don't know. I'll still play since I have many friends that will play it, but I agree it is a shame and for this one thing (compared to RMAH) they cannot justify why they dont do it, my bet is a shameful reason that they purposely hide from the public. | ||
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Rolz
United States9 Posts
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kcbgoku
Poland156 Posts
I'm putting ? next to the 0 because I just don't see them. Does anyone? | ||
nimdil
Poland3747 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On March 26 2012 16:27 nimdil wrote: Of all features of d2 chat channels was the most useless for me to a point of being annoying and irritating. It was a place were teen players were bitching about stuff using more abbreviations than words and were spam bots made any activity a hell. I praise blizzard for kicking open chat channels out. They were discouraging. you dont have to join them.................. and its not like bots cannot be prevented by blizzard. i dislike the direction blizzard is taking with new games. why would they change stuff that was awesome in the old games?! | ||
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nimdil
Poland3747 Posts
On March 26 2012 17:03 TRAP[yoo] wrote: you dont have to join them.................. and its not like bots cannot be prevented by blizzard. Fighting bots is an endless fight - one that requires constant work = cost. Plus the open chat made the whole D2 design "dirty" imho. I can't really understand why you can't use chat outside the game in various D3 communities which - no doubt here - appear on the internet? Plus nobody is complaining there is no central "facebook" chat. I can't imagine why D3 should have one. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On March 26 2012 17:03 TRAP[yoo] wrote: you dont have to join them.................. and its not like bots cannot be prevented by blizzard. i dislike the direction blizzard is taking with new games. why would they change stuff that was awesome in the old games?! Because a lot of modern day games do not have great synergy with old school mechanics (like ui's.) Also, the old school games are looked upon with rose tinted glasses. With a nostalgia look, us being younger, etc. sort of influence our perspective. Which is why Diablo II chat channels were nice and all, but they became very mundane and not really that spectacular. With the current mechanics in the game (how we view other people's characters, our own, party members), it would be a lot of the exact same. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
I recently got into the Dota 2 beta, and I was totally blown away by what I saw, it was amazing. Everything you wanted was in one screen and presented in a very nice way. Chat channels, personal skill level, friends, game selection,stats etc. And whats more they also promote the e-sport aspect of it by constantly tellling you what matches are on, and which pro's are playing. it was really well done(it does have a lot of bugs currently, but it's beta for a reason). After a while I realized that it was basically the war3 interface with some nice tweaks. Going back to sc2,I realized how much more they could've done to the ui. You can even watch whole pro-matches from the dota 2 game. I think they made a mistake in using a console UI designer. It's a little bit sad to see because it is blizzards original design made better, while blizzards current designs going backwards. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On March 26 2012 10:24 Rumpus wrote: Man, I have played the Diablo 3 beta and I didn't really know anyone else that did so I sort of said I'd shrug off the social aspects until launch. But after reading this, and going through it myself....I don't think so Blizzard. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... Certainly won't be getting Diablo if this is the crap we'll have to deal with. Already went through this issue with Starcraft 2, and still going through it =/. For those who don't understand, the social aspect is insanely important to a game like this. How would I find people to trade/group with and actually do some friendly banter and so forth? I don't want to have to go through TL or the Diablo 3 forums, swap friend codes and start getting people together every time I want to meet or play with someone. That is ridiculous. Actually fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. No shame in being conned once. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3747 Posts
On March 26 2012 20:01 MrTortoise wrote: Actually fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. No shame in being conned once. Can someone explain me what's wrong with social aspects of Starcraft 2, because I'm not getting it? | ||
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2078 Posts
On March 26 2012 19:31 dartoo wrote: I recently got into the Dota 2 beta, and I was totally blown away by what I saw, it was amazing. Everything you wanted was in one screen and presented in a very nice way. Chat channels, personal skill level, friends, game selection,stats etc. And whats more they also promote the e-sport aspect of it by constantly tellling you what matches are on, and which pro's are playing. it was really well done(it does have a lot of bugs currently, but it's beta for a reason). After a while I realized that it was basically the war3 interface with some nice tweaks. Going back to sc2,I realized how much more they could've done to the ui. You can even watch whole pro-matches from the dota 2 game. I think they made a mistake in using a console UI designer. It's a little bit sad to see because it is blizzards original design made better, while blizzards current designs going backwards. Same here. Dota2 interface is what sc2 should've had | ||
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CosmicHippo
United States547 Posts
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Okiesmokie
Canada379 Posts
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