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On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly?
QFT
yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.
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This is awesome. I don't see myself purchasing it because I can't watch all the GSL matches and these matches so I'll just watch ro4/finals for free since this is in my timezone when it goes live. And GSL I must pay for because I'm not staying up until 4 am to watch the GSL. I do look forward to these matches though.
Does anyone else feel like theres too many competitions? I'm glad for SC2 growing and I want it to keep growing. But god damn, GSL, NASL, and other tournaments simply take up too much time.
I think I'll stick to watching alL GSL matches and ro4/finals for other tournaments.
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On February 22 2011 10:27 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +What other things are the premium members going to get? Is it going to be like GOM where they get VODs?
Yeah pretty much exactly like that. You'll get a season pass and then access to the high quality VODs. We're talking about creating additional content as well like giving them access to replays but then we thought that was kind of silly because it only takes one person to get a replay and then the whole internet has the replay. It's as easy to copy a VOD file as it is to copy a replay...
On February 22 2011 13:09 axellerate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly? QFT yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.
I'm pretty sure it's in case they intentionally behave in an unforeseeable, problematic way.
Professional athletes can be fined for behaving in a way that the league or their team deems inappropriate, it's necessary to ensure players won't hurt the league's reputation if things don't go their way.
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I may have misunderstood something, but is this going to be run by 5-10 people?
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On February 22 2011 13:06 huameng wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 13:02 ptell wrote:
I can see a potential problem with "5 groups with 10 players in each" arrangement. It is possible that towards the end of the league, maybe by the second half, the point difference between players might be big enough that some players at the bottom will have no chance of qualifying. These players will have no incentive to win games and might even just forfeit games by not showing up.
One possible solution is to more groups with a small number of players in each. This will also help lift the cap of five players per team limit. I agree that this might be an issue, but they have to put down a deposit to play and won't get it all back if they no show, so you'd have to really, REALLY not care to not show up. People not practicing as hard as they could is a real issue I guess, and I'm not a big fan of round robin tournaments because of it, but this format seems to do best what they want to accomplish: show as much high level SC2 as possible.
Yeah I agree, this could lead to a lot of cheesier, lower quality games towards the end. Let's hope this is balanced out by situations where the top two players are not determined until the very last week.
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Is awesome news for Western Esports and SC2 in general, just a shame its not league format  KO's are great and all, but Proleague, or individual league is a set up that is being really underutilised in SC2 so far.
Edit for clarity, I meant a straight up league, the current format is good but I'm not sure keeping teammates apart is really fair, it's a 1v1 game, they train in their teams but they play for themselves.
Especially as its an individual league this seems pretty odd. I was kind of expecting a proleague I guess. oh well.
Nice that they are going to restream for EU too, staying up to watch games is really inconvenient sometimes.
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On February 22 2011 13:09 axellerate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 13:07 FXOpen wrote:
Being fined for 'unforeseeable problems' is just awesome! Honestly, if a snow storm goes through someones area and they cant log on, you are going to make them pay for it? Don't you think thats just a little bit silly? QFT yeah this fine thing cannot possibly last.
Nah I think this idea is a great one. Keeps people in the tournament accountable. I'm sure if there some extreme circumstance then exceptions will be made. I would rather have this in place so that you can regularly schedule broadcasts without hiccups like people just not showing up.
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The format of this tournament is going to produce ALOT more exciting games than what the GSL does imo.
The reason for this is because of the length of a season and # of games I guess.
In GSL you could go "hmm let me try this weird build that might work and is really different" but then you lose and you could possibly be out of the whole tournament next game. Therefore you don't see people doing much of this and the games are very stale and routine.
There are exceptions to this (eg: Jinro going mech against MC was pretty epic). However, as a whole I think the style of play in GSL tournaments is very very stale - am really looking forward to this new extended tournament it should be great.
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i really cant wait for this. i hope this leads to many many great things for esports in the west.
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On February 22 2011 13:16 kampfer0 wrote:
i really cant wait for this. i hope this leads to many many great things for esports in the west.
If it's profitable enough it will.
Everyone: if you don't buy a ticket you're killing starcraft, and also kittens. And puppies, because for some people even kittens aren't cute enough to make you forget they're cats, and cats suck.
do you really want to kill the puppy starcraft?
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This looks amazing, great work guys, can't wait!
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This seems like a very biased league that no one will take seriously, no offense. It will definitely be fun to watch, but nothing at all as to what I was expecting. Its not very "fair", more "fun" I guess you could put it. I bet the people over at GSL are quite happy with how this turned out.
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I hope it makes absurd, offensive amounts of money for the organizers/promoters. Whatever they have to do in order to make that happen is fair game in my opinion.
They should be wiping their asses with benjamins. If that happens, other business minded people with capitol will be forced to start other high end, high stakes, competetive SC2 leagues, and sponsors will be forced to throw even more money at the event... making more prize pool and better events.
It can only be bad if people don't make money. Here's hopin.
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very exciting news, can't wait to see how everything pans out!
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On February 22 2011 13:20 Yotta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 13:16 kampfer0 wrote:
i really cant wait for this. i hope this leads to many many great things for esports in the west. If it's profitable enough it will. Everyone: if you don't buy a ticket you're killing starcraft, and also kittens. And puppies, because for some people even kittens aren't cute enough to make you forget they're cats, and cats suck. do you really want to kill the puppy starcraft?
you can't scare me.
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Awesome news! Definitely glad to see western e-sports take initiative to compete with korea. Idk how close to korean levels of viewers NASL will get (a fraction im sure) but who knows what the future holds- maybe the west can really get some movement.
A more in depth explanation of how the team restrictions work would be nice. Does a team with upwards of 5 people not get to sign up as a team? Or do they simply pick a "top" 5 players that the team wouldnt want to run into one another?
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The fine HAS to last. The clan wars for 10k have been ridiculously unprofessional with swaps galore. I don't know how much money you need to make your job a serious business, but they've got the right idea.
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The team thing in particular is very, very strange. What about players like WhiteRa? "Duckload" isn't really a team, its a website sponsoring him? The "EG and Liquid can have more players" is just a slap in the face, too.
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On February 22 2011 13:31 Phaint wrote:
The team thing in particular is very, very strange. What about players like WhiteRa? "Duckload" isn't really a team, its a website sponsoring him? The "EG and Liquid can have more players" is just a slap in the face, too.
The rule really says "EG and Liquid can't have too many players"
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