MLG 2011 Circuit Prize Money Announced - Page 15

On February 04 2011 07:37 Slasher wrote:
Some of the things said in this thread are completely asinine. The prize money for SC2 and Halo per player is exactly the same for all regular season stops, and is double for the finals. Halo and Black Ops are team games - it is extremely important that individual players are paid the same - for the players.

On February 04 2011 08:19 Liquid`Tyler wrote:

I don't see the importance of players of different games getting paid the same. I think the payout for each game needs to be competitive with other (non MLG) tournaments' payouts, which are different for each game. I think they need to be enough to draw good enough players to have a good competition, which could be different for each game. And I think that the games that carry the Pro Circuit on their shoulders for the lesser games on the circuit ought to give bigger payouts to the players (for example, the SC2 2010 payouts were completely reasonable).

I think MLG has done a good job with the payouts but that has nothing to do with the per player payouts being the same between their biggest games.

On February 04 2011 06:20 Liquid`Tyler wrote:

A 4 player game does not naturally get 4 times the sponsorship money. The fact that Halo is a 4 player competition could just as easily explain Halo players winning 1/4 the money of SC players. Sponsors have no reason to care that it takes 4 times as many players to put on a Halo match as it does an SC match. If Halo matches and SC matches draw similar crowds, then they justify equal amounts of money from sponsors.

I think what happens is MLG says "$5000 is a big enough first place prize to draw good players" so they budget that for the prize and use the rest of the sponsorship money for other things.

So if SC and Halo are able to bring in equal crowds, then MLG is valuing its SC players at 1/4 the value of Halo players. Halo players would have to be drawing in a crowd worth more than 4 times as much as SC's crowd in order for MLG to be valuing SC players higher than Halo players. That's not happening. MLG just values us lower than them because that's all that matters is having enough prize money to draw the best players. Any more than that is a waste.

On February 04 2011 09:14 kNightLite wrote:
@NexaS: Clearly you didn't actually read Tyler's argument. To simplify it even more, sponsors only care how many people are watching. If 10,000 people are watching a 1v1 SC match, and 10,000 people are watching a 4v4 Halo match, there's no reason why Halo's total prize pool should be 4x larger than SC2. Instead, the total prize pools should be equal, irrelevant of how much it's split up. I think Tyler is saying that the reason why they aren't equal is because it's cheaper to lure pro SC2 players to MLG than it is to lure a 4-man halo squad. (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Another way to look at is that if you are #8 in SC2 you make money equal to Halo player #32.

On February 04 2011 09:27 NexaS wrote:

Yeah, you're right, I didn't read it at all. I just wanted to complain on twitter. In fact, I stopped reading your post after the second sentence because I've decided that's how I roll.

On February 04 2011 09:43 kNightLite wrote:
Uh no offense but we're your customers. If you want to disagree with us (or ignore us) that's fine, but if you're going to officially respond to customer feedback you should probably read it first.

MLG has done a phenomenal job supporting the SC2 community, but that doesn't mean it should be immune to criticism or change.

On February 04 2011 09:24 Highways wrote:
Anyone know how prize money compares to Halo?

On February 04 2011 09:43 kNightLite wrote:
Uh no offense but we're your customers. If you want to disagree with us (or ignore us) that's fine, but if you're going to officially respond to customer feedback you should probably read it first.

MLG has done a phenomenal job supporting the SC2 community, but that doesn't mean it should be immune to criticism or change.