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GSL soundproof issue - Official comment - Page 2

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Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 18:25:09
January 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#21
Baller ? No. Just childish.

User was temp banned for this post.
Liam
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland22 Posts
January 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#22
Childish, how is this childish?

In my opinion it took a lot of courage to actually mention this in an interview after the game. Knowing the impact this could have, people calling him a cheater and what not.
Swiss Starcraft 2 Team/Community - www.skilled.ch
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
January 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#23
On January 20 2011 03:22 Ancient.eu wrote:
Baller ? No. Just childish.


What? Childish for being ( from the best of my knowledge ) the first person to comment on the sound problem? And it's not like he gained any useful information from the sounds at the time.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
January 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#24
.......How the hell is admitting a possible (although it wasn't in this case) advantage childish?

Pretty disappointed with some of the reactions on TL to be honest.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#25
On January 20 2011 02:42 oPPRoBe wrote:
That's pretty cool. They should get sponsored by BOSE to get those nice noise-canceling headphones.

I wonder how idra feels about having no rematch...


Just like to point out that noise-cancelling does not work this way. Noise cancellling is only effective against constant, very specific frequencies. BOSE for instance make headphones designed for travel use. They will block out constant noise like say, aircraft engines, train ambience etc. They are not particularly effective against speech, which produces very broad frequency sounds. They may reduce the volume of it certainly, but they cannot cancel it entirely, or even by a reasonable amount.
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KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
January 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#26
On January 20 2011 02:32 Xeph wrote:
We recognized the problem, so now we have a plan to reinforce sound curtain and change headset device.

Players felt uncomfortable about soundproofing earset and headset and pointed out sound curtain is too big. So we have used only headset without an earset and eased sound curtain. Behind of Jinro's booth, there is a speaker. All these circumstances made the issue today.


I'm confused by "sound curtain is too big". If it's some sort of baffling around the booth it doesn't make sense that players would care how big it is. Maybe it's that curtain over the door in the back of the booth? If that was too big it would be annoying to get in/out of the booth I suppose.

I saw some interviews where some players explained they blast music in the booth to drown out the noise of the crowd/commentators. Anyone have a link to that or more info about it?

Also they mention there is a speaker behind Jinro's booth, so I guess they mean they will move the studio speakers around so they aren't blasting the studio sound right at the booths (oops!).


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Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
January 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#27
If he wanted to address the issue he should have spoken with the officials after the game, let them know the situation and fix it, not say it in an interview, create doubt about the match and about Gom's professionalism.
Liam
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland22 Posts
January 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#28
On January 20 2011 03:25 Ancient.eu wrote:
If he wanted to address the issue he should have spoken with the officials after the game, let them know the situation and fix it, not say it in an interview, create doubt about the match and about Gom's professionalism.


I agree, but keep in mind. He just finished his game and and probably was full of adrenalin and still happy about the win. He started to swear again and I bet he did not think about everything he said.
Swiss Starcraft 2 Team/Community - www.skilled.ch
gibb
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden288 Posts
January 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#29
Nicely done GOM and nicely done Jinro.
Manners.
Archvil3
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark989 Posts
January 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#30
I think that is was a very good call by GOM. While the noise definetly triggered Jinro I dont think it was the deciding factor in the match. By the looks of it Jinro would have taken it anyway.

Good to see the issue adressed and an official statement about it.
Let thy speech be better than silence, or be silent.
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 18:32:55
January 19 2011 18:29 GMT
#31
I'll never forget artosis's face when Jinro said "I heard the announcers go "OOOOOOO"" I hope MLG takes this seriously as well. I remember TTone saying at the last MLG that he was afraid to 4 gate or stargate because it was so easy to pick out them saying "4 gate" or "Stargate" among all the noise, because the players could hear the commentators.
:)
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#32
It's not that he really did all that much to prepare for a 6 pool. Obviously a rematch isn't required, or even viable.

However its good to hear that in the future GOM will take the necessary precautions to prevent scenarios like this, in the future.
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insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
January 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#33
Nice of Gom to adress it this instantly. Don't think there should be a rematch, if Jinro had scouted 6pool he'd walled off.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 19 2011 18:31 GMT
#34
On January 20 2011 03:25 Ancient.eu wrote:
If he wanted to address the issue he should have spoken with the officials after the game, let them know the situation and fix it, not say it in an interview, create doubt about the match and about Gom's professionalism.


Doesn't matter.

The only way to deal with these things is complete transparency or else your image and support is ruined.

I would bet money that the only reason Jinro even mentioned it in the interview, is because it had no effect upon his play what-so-ever. Its not like he got to make a hard wall-in due to overhearing info.

Regardless that it was 'exposed' as a flaw, and had no change or effect upon the game it happened, everyone is fortunate. If this had happened instead with a DT rush in the semi-finals in the middle of a tied series on a fair map it would have been seriously worse.

As far as outcomes could go, this is as good as it could have been.
Socke Fighting!!!!
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
January 19 2011 18:31 GMT
#35
Because of the interview action might now be taken to resolve the soundproofing issue which by all accounts is known and brushed under the carpet. I recall an Idra interview (don't know when, sorry) where he said he could sometimes hear the commentators, but it didn't really matter to him because he couldn't make out what they were saying.

You don't have to speak any language to understand excitement that early on in the game.
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
January 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#36
On January 20 2011 03:25 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 02:42 oPPRoBe wrote:
That's pretty cool. They should get sponsored by BOSE to get those nice noise-canceling headphones.

I wonder how idra feels about having no rematch...


Just like to point out that noise-cancelling does not work this way. Noise cancellling is only effective against constant, very specific frequencies. BOSE for instance make headphones designed for travel use. They will block out constant noise like say, aircraft engines, train ambience etc. They are not particularly effective against speech, which produces very broad frequency sounds. They may reduce the volume of it certainly, but they cannot cancel it entirely, or even by a reasonable amount.


So what can you do for noise cancelling? How do they do it in BW ? Can't you use in-ear phones for the starcraft sounds and put attenuators above that?
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
January 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#37
On January 20 2011 03:31 andytb wrote:
Because of the interview action might now be taken to resolve the soundproofing issue which by all accounts is known and brushed under the carpet. I recall an Idra interview (don't know when, sorry) where he said he could sometimes hear the commentators, but it didn't really matter to him because he couldn't make out what they were saying.

You don't have to speak any language to understand excitement that early on in the game.


But a korean player who can understand what they are saying could definitely hear something that could win them the game.
:)
Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
January 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#38
On January 20 2011 03:28 Liam wrote:
I agree, but keep in mind. He just finished his game and and probably was full of adrenalin and still happy about the win. He started to swear again and I bet he did not think about everything he said.

Oh, of course, he was very excited and in that excitement it slipped that he had heard something.

That is why I said it he was a bit like a child, overexcited.
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
January 19 2011 18:34 GMT
#39
Is that the reason why Jinro's interview is not up on the site yet?
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 19 2011 18:35 GMT
#40
On January 20 2011 03:29 Reborn8u wrote:
I'll never forget artosis's face when Jinro said "I heard the announcers go "OOOOOOO"" I hope MLG takes this seriously as well. I remember TTone saying at the last MLG that he was afraid to 4 gate or stargate because it was so easy to pick out them saying "4 gate" or "Stargate" among all the noise, because the players could hear the commentators.



Lol i wanted to re-watch the interview cause i missed artosis's face. However jinro's interview isn't even up on GomTv.net.

while the winner of Nada and MKP interview is.
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