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snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
January 17 2011 02:21 GMT
#421
On January 17 2011 10:35 OhThatDang wrote:
...your statement is ridiculous ~_~ I think his banning of this event was to show the world that they mean serious business and keeps people in check. Even though you guys think its a minor offense "rock paper scissoring" to win or lose games. its still something that doesnt display a competitive spirit and not a legitimate way to gain a spot in the tourney. Even though you guys say it doesnt give him an advantage and all that bullshit what if it does? then what..should he now be penalized for when it works? =p


Unless he's hacking, for which dq from just one event would be way to mild, there's no way he can gain an advantage over good players actually playing the games, and advancing in rank until evening out at the expected 50%.

The one thing he does gain is a lot of saved time for using up his bonus pool - but gee, how does he even have a bonus pool if he has been playing a lot.
Novon
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1 Post
January 17 2011 03:21 GMT
#422
lol, and how do they even play RPS in the first place?
I never finish anyth
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 04:33:07
January 17 2011 04:32 GMT
#423
looks like the sc2 council (made up of the korean teams) has made a new policy to deal with events such as this if they happen in the future, hopefully somebody can translate this article:
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2550455
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 17 2011 04:58 GMT
#424
On January 16 2011 13:21 bubblegumbo wrote:
Immature kids still don't know what it means to be a professional, the coach should have found out sooner and stopped him before GOM did.

He is the coach of fOu so...
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 17 2011 05:19 GMT
#425
On January 15 2011 20:05 Gold Fish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:24 mizU wrote:
I don't understand how you do rock paper scissors on SC2.
CHAT?

From tntrieu:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 18:46 tntrieu wrote:
On January 13 2011 17:58 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
More importantly, how do you play a game of rock paper scissors online? Example:

Player 1: Rock
Player 2: [looks at rock, and decides to go paper..]


You play three games at once. If player one types [Paper Rock Paper] and player two types [Rock Paper Scissor], then player two wins


Still confused.
Could wait till Paper rock paper then type scissors paper blank
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
MOOG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
January 17 2011 07:34 GMT
#426
Honest to god I saw someone play rps for a sc2 ladder game.

countdown
3
2
1
say rock paper or scissors simultaneously(korean of course)

of course its not perfect, but its good enough.
To Do: 1. finish the rest of my practice league matches 2. win GSL
ABCSFirebird
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany90 Posts
January 17 2011 08:02 GMT
#427
The GSL neither controls nor understands the ladder system - who are they to define what people are allowed to do on it? Using it as qualifier is even more stupid - how would they know for sure that it is completely fair if it's not their own system?
This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill - Fifteen percent concentrated power of will - Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain ..
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
January 17 2011 09:19 GMT
#428
so how do they play rock paper scissors?
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Xeph
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 10:10:44
January 17 2011 10:09 GMT
#429
On January 17 2011 16:34 MOOG wrote:
Honest to god I saw someone play rps for a sc2 ladder game.

countdown
3
2
1
say rock paper or scissors simultaneously(korean of course)

of course its not perfect, but its good enough.

This is the way how they play RPS.
Persistent Pursuit of Perfection
osten
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden316 Posts
January 17 2011 14:28 GMT
#430
What????

This is really upsetting, he has done nothing wrong!!

This is just terrible. There is nothing to stop the other player from staying if he loses the game.

What is this? They didn't bend any rules. They played a game of starcraft. What units they made what they type to each other, it's their own choice. This is exactly NOT abuse. Grr.... Gsl won wome points with fixing Lost temple and bringing in new maps, but then today the stream went offline, players got disconnected, and now this they punish a guy for playing the game...
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
January 17 2011 16:18 GMT
#431
back in the days everybody was crying about KeSPA, and how they dealt with things when the broadcasters fuck things up.
now the regulation is done by the broadcaster himself. there is no differentation between the law enforcing authority and the money-grabbng company.

wanna know what i think about it? GOM knows the old rule of "every publicity is good publicity" and they thought that SC2 could need a "scandal" to raise the viewing rates. for the sake of the players, lets hope this wont work, because otherwise we will soon have the next scandal.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Piege
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom128 Posts
January 17 2011 23:58 GMT
#432
For someone who is a director, The tone and words Jung-Won Chae used are appalling and unprofessional.
Never_V_ -> Fin
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
January 18 2011 01:28 GMT
#433
I'm sorry, but I don't know how he could win 20 points for winnig but only lose 3 by losing. How does this work? Do his opponents get the same deal?
You recognise me because of my signature!
Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
January 18 2011 01:43 GMT
#434
in sc2 now you get banned when you dont play ladder game seriously ?!

serious business


Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
January 18 2011 02:13 GMT
#435
On January 18 2011 10:28 Munk-E wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't know how he could win 20 points for winnig but only lose 3 by losing. How does this work? Do his opponents get the same deal?


Read up on how the ladder system works.
Moderator
palefountains
Profile Joined March 2010
China24 Posts
January 18 2011 02:18 GMT
#436
It's the problem of the ladder mechanism, not the players. Ridiculous to punish choya...

What Blizzard should do is taking play time/stats into account to calculate win/lose points. You can't earn your points within 10 seconds/mining nothing.

good
palefountains
Profile Joined March 2010
China24 Posts
January 18 2011 02:25 GMT
#437
And I guess most progamers don't, or won't play ladders very often. What they need for a tournament is specific training with dedicated partners, not hanging around playing with random opponents. It won't shock me if the juniors in a team will have to play ladder games for the seniors...Overall, ladder system should be just for fun, not for competitive e-sports.

However, maybe the achievements in GSL could be converted into BN points...
good
palefountains
Profile Joined March 2010
China24 Posts
January 18 2011 02:30 GMT
#438
I don't know how to play rock-paper-scissors in a sc2 game...But you could do this: pick out two healthy workers, let your opponents see and choose left/right, then make them attack each other...should be fair?
good
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
January 18 2011 02:58 GMT
#439
On January 18 2011 11:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 10:28 Munk-E wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't know how he could win 20 points for winnig but only lose 3 by losing. How does this work? Do his opponents get the same deal?


Read up on how the ladder system works.

I gave up on understanding that months ago. I know you're kind of the expert, but for me, I just take the points it gives me.
You recognise me because of my signature!
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
January 18 2011 04:45 GMT
#440
So can anyone explain how he was getting 20 for a win and only losing 2 - 4 per loss? I would like to use this = P
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