[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 6

On October 30 2010 02:57 TheAntZ wrote:


But i do. i post regularly in the nada's body thread.

On October 30 2010 02:17 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't think a lot of you are understanding the meaning behind Zenio's gestures towards Idra. His point is that Idra was really condescending and didn't respect Zenio. Why wouldn't he respect Zenio? Because Idra implies that Zenio isn't good. Now Zenio beat Idra 2-0. So it is somewhat sarcastic/mocking Idra in the way that he BMs Idra. Kinda like "Look, you BM'ed and lost, look at me, I can BM too! hur hur!!". Its not that he's saying "HEY YO MAN, SUCK A DICK!". He's BM'ing in a way that is meant to show how silly Idra's BM is.

On October 30 2010 03:10 cocoa_sg wrote:
Idra, to me, has always been a terrible person and a long-time BM'er. Zenio did the right thing because he wanted to retaliate for his friends in the OGS clan whom Idra also BM'ed in the past. It exasperates me when fanboys keep clamouring to Idra's defense by saying Zenio is BM too; Zenio had the right to express what he and other Koreans feel towards Idra lately.

It is way too late now, and Idra's continued arrogance is not getting him anywhere in the SC2 proscene. So please don't be so surprised if Idra receives more BM retaliation in the future; he totally deserves it for his own actions.

Idra, if you are reading this, treat other people with more respect, like Slayers'Boxer. Just because you thought you were the best in the SC2 beta, does not give you the right to look down on others. You should have taken Rekrul's advice LONG AGO; yes, I read that very old thread posted by him about your excuses for the loss against China's F91. -_- Grow up already.

On October 30 2010 03:17 Krigwin wrote:


Basically this, from what it sounds like Idra's basically been BMing Zenio's entire clan, not to mention himself, as well as beating his captain(coach? ?) in the previous round. Zenio's BM isn't to BM, it's to make Idra shut up, after all he did just get resoundingly beaten 2-0.

I really don't get how anyone can defend Idra's BM if you're an American esports fan. He's basically the only real American presence right now in the GSLs and do you really want the image of your country to be represented by a guy who badmouths everyone on the ladder and has basically made an enemy of a huge number of Koreans? This isn't like the NA ladder where your opponent might be some moose-hunter from Alaska or some retiree down from Florida, in Korea word of his antics spread fast.

Now, TLO, there's a guy much more suited to representing the western foreign scene.

On October 30 2010 02:42 Zyphen wrote:
IdrA's burned too many bridges to turn it around now. The players he mocked (and in the Beta of a NEW game no-less) weren't going to stay worse than him forever and are passing him by. He has an overinflated opinion of himself, propped up by fanboys who don't know any better. His weaknesses will become bigger and bigger because he doesn't recognize them as such. He makes excuses and blames the game instead of improving. He practices inside a pampered bubble without having his strategies challenged. He's got hundreds of enablers (called TL) that are pretty much "yes" men that don't question him. He'll be trapped in this rut of his own making.

He doesn't want any help. The first step to improving is admitting that you're not that great. And he's not going to get any because he alienated just about the entire pro scene in Korea.

On October 30 2010 00:25 Snowfield wrote:
I liek the gosugamer translation better

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/thread/637083-zenio-idra-don-t-be-a-dick

Q: Your gesture after the game received a lot of attention.
A: IdrA had no respect on B.net and I got to know his personality during Beta. My gesture was to tell him to stop being being a dick.

Q: Your ceremony is making buzz.
+ Show Spoiler +

A: IdrA has been very impolite on BN so I do this to ask him to watch his mouth. He was BM to me during the Beta.

On October 30 2010 00:44 Jombozeus wrote:
For context, IdrA BM'ed the entire oGs team.
oGsGon has stated that sometime before, correct me if I'm wrong.

You dont go to someone's country, diss their best pro-team, and expect not to get retaliated.

On October 30 2010 03:32 Xxavi wrote:

Great post.

I agree entirely. When your excuse list for your loss is:
1. opponents strategy (making carriers is a great talent toi have, all in, fucking nooby cheesers etc.)
2. game imba (first terran, then protoss, now obviously has to be zerg)
3. ...
...

Does he have a reasoning like "hey may be I am not as good as I think?" or "I certainly suck at ZvP and ZvZ" or "I just played garbage, should improve?"

With such attitude, he will not improve much. He should wait for new patches to come out, in the meantime, whine about something.