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[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 4

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Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
October 29 2010 16:36 GMT
#61
I hope someone BMs Zenio and it becomes an endless cycle of BM to show how stupid it is to do so on live television.
Priphea
Chriscanuck
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1 Post
October 29 2010 16:37 GMT
#62
Idra is a dick, i wish zenio would have just gone over and slapped him instead of just motioning it.... HAHAHAHA
you must construct additional....... I KNOW GOD DAMMIT!
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
October 29 2010 16:42 GMT
#63
This is good for the game. It's good that the players are showing emotion. It's going to be much easier to market and hype those players up now in future matches. I don't see how anyone can be upset.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
October 29 2010 16:44 GMT
#64
I love idra but I don't mind this. It definitely makes for more entertainment. Rivalries don't come out of nowhere
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
October 29 2010 16:45 GMT
#65
On October 30 2010 01:42 zerglingsfolife wrote:
This is good for the game. It's good that the players are showing emotion. It's going to be much easier to market and hype those players up now in future matches. I don't see how anyone can be upset.


"Every game needs a villain"

-Jason Lee (saying it right in front of Grack..)
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 29 2010 16:48 GMT
#66
LOOOOL at the ceremony. I'm an IdrA fan and it sucks that he lost, but oh man, gotta love that arm motion by Zenio. Now it is time for IdrA to unleash his rage at MLG Dallas.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 29 2010 16:50 GMT
#67
On October 30 2010 00:58 Phisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:53 Xxavi wrote:
So it is funny that there are people who come up with the ways to defend him. Funny. Or not.


Equally funny how IdrA's anti-fanboys come here talking about how justified the BM was when they go berserk every time IdrA BMs. I think BM'ing on TV is pretty bad taste, even tho I dont approve of IdrA's constant BM either. Zenio could either prove he is a bigger person than IdrA and just ignore his BM knowing that he beat him, or stoop to his level. He chose the latter.

I agree, Zenio's BM is still a BM, and probably shouldn't have done on TV. But Idra BMing constantly annoys me as a SC2 fan. Really, I enjoy when he loses to people like Masq and then rages.

He is arrogant, talks down others, while he has done sweet fuck all in the grand scheme of things. I would hate to see Boxer or Nada BM, although they could BM just about anybody in SC. When FruitDealer won against ITR, instead of congratulating, he was trash talking about ITR, which sounded bitter and jealous. That tells about his personality a lot. And I was hoping that somebody would put him in place.

I don't like BM, but Idra needs somebody to tell him actually he isn't as good as he thinks.
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
October 29 2010 16:54 GMT
#68
zenio is a fucking pimp! i love him!

hahahaha, goes down in the history books for that``
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 29 2010 16:55 GMT
#69
But like others have said, I enjoyed it. Laughed so hard.

Actually, would have been awesome if he went and just bitch slapped him :D
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 29 2010 16:57 GMT
#70
On October 30 2010 00:39 Xxavi wrote:
The difference between Idra BM and Zenio BM is that the latter didn't make a name for himself through BM around the world, while Idra is known to be BM to Europeans, Asians and Americans. Can't believe people try to compare them.

I also believe that Zenio got further pumped by his oGs team-mates who probably all were BMed or flamed by Idra at this or that stage of game. I would think if oGsGon won that game, he would have done something similar. So it is not surprising to see this from Zenio, probably his teammates influenced a lot, too.

It's funny that there's no comment from TL guys over there, like TLO and Jinro. I can totally understand that they don't want to get into this shit, but they probably know that Idra deserves this for his trash-talking.


On October 30 2010 00:44 Jombozeus wrote:
For context, IdrA BM'ed the entire oGs team.
oGsGon has stated that sometime before, correct me if I'm wrong.

You dont go to someone's country, diss their best pro-team, and expect not to get retaliated


On October 30 2010 01:05 nedamise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:58 Phisk wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:53 Xxavi wrote:
So it is funny that there are people who come up with the ways to defend him. Funny. Or not.


Equally funny how IdrA's anti-fanboys come here talking about how justified the BM was when they go berserk every time IdrA BMs. I think BM'ing on TV is pretty bad taste, even tho I dont approve of IdrA's constant BM either. Zenio could either prove he is a bigger person than IdrA and just ignore his BM knowing that he beat him, or stoop to his level. He chose the latter.



While it wasn't particularly classy Gon mentioned before that Idra BM'ed other members of his clan as well. Fact of the matter is that, while it's easy to tell someone to take the high road if you act like an asshole long enough eventually you are going to get a taste of your own medicine.


On October 30 2010 01:32 teamsolid wrote:
I wonder what his BM was about? Leaving without GG or something worse?


Well as well as whatever Zenio claims, Idra was also trash talking oGsGon before their RO32 match, so really he's trash talked and almost certainly BM'ed the guy, so it's well deserved.

Idra isn't some saint, and he deserves whatever disrespect he gets.
Also other players have 'BM'ed' in the games, through things like manner CC, supply depot heart, mass rax. Zenio just did it as his celebration after showing Idra who's boss.
HOLY CHECK!
johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
October 29 2010 16:58 GMT
#71
idra's napoleon complex is incredibly frustrating and obnoxious. I respect his abilities as zerg but idra makes the rest of us look bad. as basically the only american in the GSL he represents a large portion of the foreign community and frankly its embarassing. I remember when idra bm'ed morrow in the beta it was uncalled for.

I have a suspicion that most koreans don't respect idra at all. most koreans tend to be pretty respectful and humble and idra is neither. He had it coming and zenio doesnt seem to have much history for BM so he must have had a good reason.
fuck the haters
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
October 29 2010 16:59 GMT
#72
On October 30 2010 00:19 Raidern wrote:
Nice, he looks really pleased with the win. I liked his ceremony/celebration.


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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 29 2010 17:00 GMT
#73
When FBH did the ceremony on savior, people were pretty split about it, lot of people got mad. When Much did the pylon heart everyone Lol'd. Responding to BM aint the same as starting it especially when you got someone like IdrA who talks shit all the time and rarely gets BM'd himself. The funny thing is, IdrA probably cares less about the ceremony than most of the people defending him in here.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 17:02:40
October 29 2010 17:01 GMT
#74
BM is fine, adds additional elements to the competitive scene.

I dunno about you, but I find rooting for nerds who have no personality, no ability, no appreciation for anything except being able to playing a video game in a standard manner rather difficult.

If you BM, you will distinguish yourself from the crowd. You will attract both fans and anti-fans. As long as you are prepare for that, I don't see what the issue is. Hell, I'd BM on TV if I got a good reason to back it.

Go Grack, crack them next time. I KNOW you are reading this thread.
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
October 29 2010 17:06 GMT
#75
I almost want to talk more about how Idra, a long time pro in korea, who should have connections even if he isn't korean can't find partners while TL sends people over and has them move right into a sc2 pro house...

it's funny. but and it proves a point. I might be great for team EG to have idra, but I'm not sure it's good for idra to be on team eg. Nothing against eg, but they don't have the infastructure there in korea
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
October 29 2010 17:08 GMT
#76
Wait, I didn't see the game. Did Idra gg out or rage quit?
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
October 29 2010 17:13 GMT
#77
On October 30 2010 02:08 lowercase wrote:
Wait, I didn't see the game. Did Idra gg out or rage quit?


i want to know too!
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 29 2010 17:14 GMT
#78
On October 30 2010 01:58 johngalt90 wrote:
idra's napoleon complex is incredibly frustrating and obnoxious. I respect his abilities as zerg but idra makes the rest of us look bad. as basically the only american in the GSL he represents a large portion of the foreign community and frankly its embarassing. I remember when idra bm'ed morrow in the beta it was uncalled for.

I have a suspicion that most koreans don't respect idra at all. most koreans tend to be pretty respectful and humble and idra is neither. He had it coming and zenio doesnt seem to have much history for BM so he must have had a good reason.


Yeah and consider how koreans, like BoxeR, have been saying good things about other foreigners like TLO and huk its just... =/
Gaius Romanus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States48 Posts
October 29 2010 17:14 GMT
#79
I think it's good. It shows personality that this sport has lacked for the longest time. Pretty bold of him to do it on TV.
"If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1699 Posts
October 29 2010 17:15 GMT
#80
What did Zenio say? I can't read the text in the gif on my phone niooooo
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