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[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 2

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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
October 29 2010 15:28 GMT
#21
I think the BM was justified, IdrA says some really stupid stuff sometimes, glad to see someone showed him how to really BM

I still like Fruitdealer better than Zenio though :D
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 29 2010 15:30 GMT
#22
I still don't know if he deserves something of that magnitude. Of course, most of us wouldn't know the severity of his attitude but somehow I don't feel like it's really that bad?

I don't want to take away from Zenio's victory but even though it was a 1v1 game, on the outside idra seemed to be outnumbered by a decent margin.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 29 2010 15:30 GMT
#23
On October 30 2010 00:26 Looky wrote:
zenio bming doesnt make him any better than idra

Maybe not, but it's much better to be know as the dude who doesn't start shit but will end it.

Personally I love both Idra and Zenio's antics. It's entertaining and really not a big deal if you're not super-sensitive. As long as Zenio doesn't touch Idra I'm all good with it. If you don't like "physical" ceremonies then I suggest you avoid all professional competitions.
Innsmouth-Zerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria137 Posts
October 29 2010 15:32 GMT
#24
All this "he BM and than he did a worse BM but the BM was justified!!" talk is so childish can't believe grown up people are talking about this....

GG to Zenio the games where awesome 8at least game 1) and i hope Idra gets to practice with some more skilled people instead of laddering all the time which doesn't really seem to further his game.

stand up defend or lay down and die
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
October 29 2010 15:35 GMT
#25
On October 30 2010 00:30 lynx.oblige wrote:
I still don't know if he deserves something of that magnitude. Of course, most of us wouldn't know the severity of his attitude but somehow I don't feel like it's really that bad?

I don't want to take away from Zenio's victory but even though it was a 1v1 game, on the outside idra seemed to be outnumbered by a decent margin.

we already know that Idra doesn't get the quality practice because his teammates are not up to par
but what could Zenio have done?
he's not going to practice by himself just because Idra doesn't have quality practice partners
Zenio did everything in his power to win the match and consulting with teammates is fair
it's really up to Idra to find better practice partners
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 15:36:21
October 29 2010 15:36 GMT
#26
Well I know what Idras reaction is
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
October 29 2010 15:38 GMT
#27
wow, i really lost respect to zenio now. what a lousy behavior. thats just pathetic. idra is not SO good, that he should be so joyful winning against him. he's not flash or JD
Bisu... ;-(
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 29 2010 15:39 GMT
#28
On October 30 2010 00:38 SkytoM wrote:
wow, i really lost respect to zenio now. what a lousy behavior. thats just pathetic. idra is not SO good, that he should be so joyful winning against him. he's not flash or JD


I agree. Again, a vast majority of us don't know what's really going on but from the looks of it Zenio was being extravagant.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 29 2010 15:39 GMT
#29
The difference between Idra BM and Zenio BM is that the latter didn't make a name for himself through BM around the world, while Idra is known to be BM to Europeans, Asians and Americans. Can't believe people try to compare them.

I also believe that Zenio got further pumped by his oGs team-mates who probably all were BMed or flamed by Idra at this or that stage of game. I would think if oGsGon won that game, he would have done something similar. So it is not surprising to see this from Zenio, probably his teammates influenced a lot, too.

It's funny that there's no comment from TL guys over there, like TLO and Jinro. I can totally understand that they don't want to get into this shit, but they probably know that Idra deserves this for his trash-talking.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
October 29 2010 15:42 GMT
#30
On October 30 2010 00:30 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:26 Looky wrote:
zenio bming doesnt make him any better than idra

Maybe not, but it's much better to be know as the dude who doesn't start shit but will end it.

Personally I love both Idra and Zenio's antics. It's entertaining and really not a big deal if you're not super-sensitive. As long as Zenio doesn't touch Idra I'm all good with it. If you don't like "physical" ceremonies then I suggest you avoid all professional competitions.


pretending you wanna backhand someone is not a ceremony.
bonedriven
Profile Joined August 2010
258 Posts
October 29 2010 15:42 GMT
#31
On October 30 2010 00:35 awu25 wrote:
we already know that Idra doesn't get the quality practice because his teammates are not up to par
but what could Zenio have done?


Why doesn't Idra have some quality practice partners? He's lived there for a long time and must have made a lot of friends there already? I think even TLO and Loner have got many top players to practice with, right?

There must be a reason for that.
Hence,"Like a Virgin."
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 29 2010 15:43 GMT
#32
the gif with zenios celebration is godlike.
keep it deep! @zulison
Comrade
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden102 Posts
October 29 2010 15:43 GMT
#33
On October 30 2010 00:42 Looky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:30 Slow Motion wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:26 Looky wrote:
zenio bming doesnt make him any better than idra

Maybe not, but it's much better to be know as the dude who doesn't start shit but will end it.

Personally I love both Idra and Zenio's antics. It's entertaining and really not a big deal if you're not super-sensitive. As long as Zenio doesn't touch Idra I'm all good with it. If you don't like "physical" ceremonies then I suggest you avoid all professional competitions.


pretending you wanna backhand someone is not a ceremony.


yet justified.
Fighting capitalist macro everywhere
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
October 29 2010 15:44 GMT
#34
For context, IdrA BM'ed the entire oGs team.
oGsGon has stated that sometime before, correct me if I'm wrong.

You dont go to someone's country, diss their best pro-team, and expect not to get retaliated.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
October 29 2010 15:44 GMT
#35
On October 30 2010 00:42 bonedriven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:35 awu25 wrote:
we already know that Idra doesn't get the quality practice because his teammates are not up to par
but what could Zenio have done?


Why doesn't Idra have some quality practice partners? He's lived there for a long time and must have made a lot of friends there already? I think even TLO and Loner have got many top players to practice with, right?

There must be a reason for that.

i was referring to the team he's on
EG doesn't have many quality players while oGs has a ton of people in the GSL
Pills
Profile Joined October 2010
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 15:48:56
October 29 2010 15:48 GMT
#36
Lol its hilarious that idras fans are being pissy about bm. I think some more people need some backhand.

It's also funny how almost all of the zergs are saying zvz is their worst matchup

cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
October 29 2010 15:48 GMT
#37
Idra's the biggest shit talker around, he's also been very vocal about how he feels BM adds to the interest of the game and that he wishes the Koreans showed more personality.

I can't believe people are getting offended on Idra's behalf over a harmless win celebration.
phamou
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada193 Posts
October 29 2010 15:50 GMT
#38
It had to happen one day. Zenio,s reaction was gonna happen either way, whether it was this game or another where Idra would lose.

Idra got what he himself created by BMing people.

you think that nobody would react when he says how players suck, that he gets no challenge and how they are only good because they use terran, etc? One way or another it would of happened.

It might be a slap in da face for Idra, I just hope he will learn from this and respect others now
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
October 29 2010 15:50 GMT
#39
I hope they play again next season and IdrA wins just to see what he'll do.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
October 29 2010 15:52 GMT
#40
Wasn`t it mentioned by Artosis that beating Idra in the GSL is some sort of trophy hunting for the Koreans. Guess there must be a justified reason for Zenio`s gesture.
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