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On November 01 2010 06:48 firefistAce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 05:46 JoeSchmoe wrote:On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago. While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it. Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life? If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious. when someone only BMs over the internet while another is not afraid to stand up to that person in real life. which one has real balls? please it's obvious. this isnt about who has balls. its about bm. you're totally off topic.
my comment was about bm. I'm pointing out that your analogy is flawed. Stop defending him just because he only does it over bnet. the only reason he doesn't do it in real life is because he knows there will be consequences. zenio does a little gesture and the idra fans flip out. Heck I doubt idra even cares about this.
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I need to make sure I understand this correctly.
The "Bad Manners" in question here is that brief clip in the .gif where Zenio hits the side of the booth in a moment of celebratory excitement?
EDIT: I see that it's a backhand "slap." A bit more than it seemed to me at first. Still... IdrA is a tool to people. He can't expect that nobody is going to return the favour.
I'm not in favour of this sort of thing in any sport; but it's not like IdrA is some nice kid out on his first tourney who is suddenly BM'd into oblivion for no reason. What goes around comes around.
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On November 01 2010 09:44 tournamentnow wrote:
^ don't try to show sympathy just because you are caucasian. IDra has been BM and swearing at many players in bnet. ITs not just Bm, its blatant swearing and racist comments.
as stated earlier in this thread, it doesn't matter if his ladder attitude differs from his real life attitude.
in this case it doesn't differ.
You don't get to choose when to be BM or be rude and expect to get away with it.(coward on bnet) There are consequences. The situation in korea is different. Netizen comments are taken seriously e.g actresses suicide frequently due to harsh netizen comments. Grow up no more immaturity and be more responsible ,nothing's a joke on the korean internet.
more examples include idra calling makaprime a F^%$ing cheater.
When and for what reason would he call maka a cheater? I havent yet heard idra accuse anyone of cheating.
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lmao, BM ceremony. Sadly he's lost his high ground on this one.
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IdrA BMing when he loses is one thing (like ragequitting, it's hardly offensive), but BMing after you win is totally different. I don't like it. You've already won, the game is over. BMing in real life, too, that's different. No matter how you see IdrA, if you hate his because of his BM abilities, then you should hate it when somebody BM's in general, as in this situation.
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Haha, love the immaturity from Zenio. He's put himself in the spotlight for the wrong reason and nothing good will come of it.
Show a bit of maturity man, you're on TV in a pro tournament...
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Idra had this coming...
idra already has bad reputation amongst the korean gaming community
Idra apparently has really bad manners on the korean ladder and apparently
he made several "racist comments" against korean pro gamers
(if you read the korean comments below the playxp article you will understand)
but still Zenio shouldn't have done that infront of the camera...
i guess he didn't realize that a lot of people watch gsl all across the globe..
he basically ruined his reputation by doing that gesture ._.
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I cheered for IdrA obviously, but the BM part from Zenio made me laugh. ^_*
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On November 01 2010 15:49 ReminiscentFate wrote:
he basically ruined his reputation by doing that gesture ._.
Nonsense, everybody loves when BM-people get put back in their place. First in game, then just to make sure he understands, a little gesture, reminding everyone who's superior.
And if Idra fanboy's can't cope, well, tough.
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On November 01 2010 17:27 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 15:49 ReminiscentFate wrote:
he basically ruined his reputation by doing that gesture ._.
Nonsense, everybody loves when BM-people get put back in their place. First in game, then just to make sure he understands, a little gesture, reminding everyone who's superior. And if Idra fanboy's can't cope, well, tough.
Now there's just another BM-person to get dramatic about. I can understand his excitement and how good it must feel to beat someone who's BM'd you or your friends, but there was no need to make that gesture of 'superiority'. I liked the BW scene more, personally, where there was a humble air about it (except FBH, rofl).
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On November 01 2010 15:49 ReminiscentFate wrote:
Idra had this coming...
idra already has bad reputation amongst the korean gaming community
Idra apparently has really bad manners on the korean ladder and apparently
he made several "racist comments" against korean pro gamers
(if you read the korean comments below the playxp article you will understand)
I would be really surprised if Idra made any racist comments so I call bullshit on this one until I see proof.
And "Idra had this coming" haha. Do you think he even gives an inch of a fuck about some guy doing a silly ceremony?
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how old is zenio? from his comments alone through all the interview in GSL2 he seems bit immature & insecurely arrogant
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idra just gave the people a good exuse to not help him and without proper support from a team he wont make it far.sad he doesnt want to understand this
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Glad he put Idra in his place. I don't understand why a 80lb kid like Idra thinks he can talk shit with no consequences, he's gonna learn manners the hard way.
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Some people so over sensitive. I also find it funny how Idra only ever is badmannered online but never in real life.. while apparently for zenio it is opposite or atleast in real life aswell. Zenio obviously way balla + his hair is red, have you seen that shit? Idra just a psuedo balla, doesnt smack talk irl.. perhaps its cause hes a skinny nerd but I doubt anything would get physical anyway..
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If the bad mannerism on Idra's behalf was on bnet only, responding physically in a live show is a strong answer. But even if Idra did not deserve the "ceremony", I think that it is understandable from Zenio's point of view..
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On November 01 2010 18:07 Jayson X wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 15:49 ReminiscentFate wrote:
Idra had this coming...
idra already has bad reputation amongst the korean gaming community
Idra apparently has really bad manners on the korean ladder and apparently
he made several "racist comments" against korean pro gamers
(if you read the korean comments below the playxp article you will understand)
I would be really surprised if Idra made any racist comments so I call bullshit on this one until I see proof. And "Idra had this coming" haha. Do you think he even gives an inch of a fuck about some guy doing a silly ceremony?
IdrA has no emotions...
Personally I used to like IdrA for being a funny BMer, but after seeing Zenio BMing him I don't like Idra.
He must have been really bad to have someone 'passionately' BM him.
I respect for Zenio doing that and as of this match. Idra is no longer on my favourites list.
But I do respect all those people that say that Zenio was out of place but seriously I also get passionate to do things like BMing a BMer.
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Lol it's no wonder IdrA didn't join a Korean team like oGs after leaving CJ and went to EG instead. They would never accept him. Especially if he's not only insulted their members, but the leader as well. GL Grack getting quality practice through laddering alone.
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Haha great interview, glad Idra didn't advance, this way he doesn't have a chance at a S-Class seed. The ceremony was hilarious, I think people take this too seriously. Idra could respond if he cared about it enough
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Hey,
sorry for posting guys, but I've searched last 6 pages and first 3, and the only thing I found was "fucking kimchi man". Can someone please provide the BM quotes from the game? Just curious, and GOMtv lags badly for me, so cant even check 1 game :/
Thanks.
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