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[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 18

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Born2beDeath
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation1 Post
October 31 2010 18:01 GMT
#341
I've wanted non-korean players to win, but Zenio made a lot of fun xD
Idra, get this! BMing online but being "perfect man"at the lan is a pro skill, ofc... )
IchorLQ
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
October 31 2010 18:30 GMT
#342
I support IdrA rage.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 31 2010 19:18 GMT
#343
Actually, both of them are kinda immature.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 31 2010 19:52 GMT
#344
I think its funny most people who support IdrA joined in 2010. Everyone else is already aware of his shit.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
October 31 2010 19:59 GMT
#345
On October 31 2010 12:11 kirkybaby wrote:
Wow. All this confirms that people on this forum are hypersensitive probably as a result of overzealous moderation.


Oh no! A disrespectful hand gesture! Heavens to Betsy! Where are the manners?!?


While I disagree with the overzealous moderation, I do agree this latest round of crying over bm seems a little over the top. I usually am on the other side when arguing about bm. But this is the sort of stuff I don't really mind. Idra dishes it out; Idra can handle it. (I do still mind the FPS trash talking, the WWE ridiculous stuff, or the Jerry Springer mentality.) But this is fine.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
October 31 2010 20:17 GMT
#346
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
October 31 2010 20:40 GMT
#347
On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.

Someone could easily be offended by both equally. Getting a "fuck you" from a random BN scrub is different than from someone who plays seriously and is well known. Higher conduct is expected from these players because it is becoming of the game and the scene. So your real life vs game example doesn't make sense to me. Zenio didn't say "fuck you" in real life. I don't know what idra mouthed off exactly but he probably said something along those lines in game. Zenio was pumped after schooling him and it was completely appropriate, I need to go watch the whole second game now!

On November 01 2010 04:52 infinity2k9 wrote:
I think its funny most people who support IdrA joined in 2010. Everyone else is already aware of his shit.
I find this amusing also lol.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
October 31 2010 20:43 GMT
#348
meh, Idra had it coming lol
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
October 31 2010 20:46 GMT
#349
On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.


when someone only BMs over the internet while another is not afraid to stand up to that person in real life.

which one has real balls? please it's obvious.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
October 31 2010 21:14 GMT
#350
Two wrongs don't make a right.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
SeeYouNextTuesday
Profile Joined August 2010
24 Posts
October 31 2010 21:20 GMT
#351
On November 01 2010 06:14 Bleak wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right.


But three lefts do!
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
October 31 2010 21:27 GMT
#352
Just want to say that zenio gained a fan here as well Seems like IdrA isn't very popular in korea either.
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
October 31 2010 21:48 GMT
#353
On November 01 2010 05:46 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.


when someone only BMs over the internet while another is not afraid to stand up to that person in real life.

which one has real balls? please it's obvious.


this isnt about who has balls. its about bm. you're totally off topic.
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 31 2010 22:52 GMT
#354
On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.


or we can use examples that actually happened? "fucking kimchi man" vs GTFO bitchslap gesture

idra's being most likely unprovoked and zenios' being a response to bitch-made behavior.

stop letting people get away with acting like cunts just because it's on bnet.
alonndo
Profile Joined August 2010
46 Posts
October 31 2010 22:55 GMT
#355
he was pure reaper abuse and failed miserably if he couldn't win off of it


Gon isn't really a high caliber player,


positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 31 2010 22:55 GMT
#356
On October 30 2010 10:18 nodq wrote:
Wow... people care so much about such stupid things, unbelievable. And so much People are just hypocrites when the ytalk about how bad it is to be "BM" on Battle.Net blaaa... Whats the Problem... IdrA says what hes thinking, and very often its true what hes talking about, even if its BM or not true, its on BN... as if no one ohter here have ever felt angry after cheese or whatever. IdrA talks about it in Chat... yeah, maybe its not okay sometimes, right. But why do People care so much?

Beeing an Asshole on Television with Gestures like this is really much more kind of stupidness than anything elese. Ive never seen IdrA beeing BM at all on TV in SC2. He became much more professional last Days/Weeks. So that hes actually working on his deficits, does not count? Im sure everyone here is Perfect as a Human beeing!

And talking in Interviews about his own Chances vs others... then losing instead of winning like he thought and THEN People laughing at him and talking bullshit about him etc. and claiming that they have more insight in the Game as he does blabla? Common guys... he may be arrogant, maybe hes just rational. Unbelievable how intolerant People are.... srsly.

btw. An Attitude like Zenios on TV is much more asocial than talking trash on a Chat in a non important Environment.

I dont get why ppl care so much about such stuff, sigh.


What are you smoking? You want to know why IdrA doesn't BM on TV?? He doesn't have the guts to do so. Simple as that. He is more comfortable BMing people hiding behind the monitor where nobody could touch him. That is called a coward. Non-important environment? According to you then I guess no need to respect people online? Everywhere you go there is social custom attached to it. You don't get to decide where to be polite or not.
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 23:18:15
October 31 2010 23:17 GMT
#357
On November 01 2010 07:52 SKtheAnathema wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 05:17 firefistAce wrote:
On October 31 2010 18:22 kyophan wrote:
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?


If someone said "fuck you" on the internet and "fuck you" in real life which one would you take more serious? please its obvious.


or we can use examples that actually happened? "fucking kimchi man" vs GTFO bitchslap gesture

idra's being most likely unprovoked and zenios' being a response to bitch-made behavior.

stop letting people get away with acting like cunts just because it's on bnet.


dam i didn't know idra said that.. that's actually kind of racist. but in his defense do any of us actually know idra? you know people bm just for fun?, but then again i would expect a amateur to say that, not a player of idra's caliber. If idra was serious then i guess he did deserve it, but if he was just fucking around, like me and my friends do, then zenio must of misunderstood.
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
tournamentnow
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 00:45:58
November 01 2010 00:44 GMT
#358
^ don't try to show sympathy just because you are caucasian. IDra has been BM and swearing at many players in bnet. ITs not just Bm, its blatant swearing and racist comments.

as stated earlier in this thread, it doesn't matter if his ladder attitude differs from his real life attitude.
in this case it doesn't differ.

You don't get to choose when to be BM or be rude and expect to get away with it.(coward on bnet) There are consequences. The situation in korea is different. Netizen comments are taken seriously e.g actresses suicide frequently due to harsh netizen comments. Grow up no more immaturity and be more responsible ,nothing's a joke on the korean internet.

more examples include idra calling makaprime a F^%$ing cheater.



Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 01:24:55
November 01 2010 01:23 GMT
#359
How can anyone hate on Zenio for that? I've seen like a dozen posts from people saying shit like, "I've lost all respect for Zenio now..."

That was awesome! I'd love to see more rivalries like this. It's hardly disrespectful or poor sportsmanship. It's a nice change from the usual expressionless outcomes.
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 01 2010 01:28 GMT
#360
Come on. The problem is this is no better then IdrA (who hasn't been BM in ages), so Zenio is basically being a hypocrite
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